Posts tagged 'Valuations'

Would you have invested in Powa?

Here’s a fun little slide from the presentation Dan Wagner’s Powa Technologies was sending to prospective investors as late as February this year:

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So how much was Powa Technologies really worth?

After two weeks in administration, Powa Technologies has begun to be broken up, with two units selling yesterday for undisclosed amounts to separate buyers — one, Greenlight Digital, said it wasn’t “a £1 sale”.

The question worth asking, and to keep in mind as funding for private tech companies tightens, is what value was left in the company after more than $200m of debt and equity investment? Or more simply, what was Powa ever worth anyway? Read more

This is *really* nuts. When’s the crash?

The China stock bubble is getting more and more bonkers. This from Deutsche Bank:

Bubble watchers point out median earnings multiples for Chinese technology stocks are twice US peer valuations at their peak. More worrying perhaps is a health-goods-from-deer-antlers producer on 70 times, the seamless underwear manufacturer on 90 times or those school uniform and ketchup makers on 330 times!

It seems everyone in the country is racing to open a brokerage account – 1.67m new accounts in the latest week, according to the China Securities Depository and Clearing Co. That sounds a lot, although it is growth of only about 1 per cent a week in the total of new accounts: China, remember is big.

But a quick bit of Excel work shows just how silly the bubble in Chinese domestic stocks, known as A shares, has become. Read more

A bear retires, unbowed and growling

The final report from Smithers & Co has landed, as the septuagenarian scourge of “stockbroker economics” eases into retirement.

We are assured that he’ll still be blogging for the FT, but the regular research output will cease. The valedictory note is, as you might expect, on the bearish side of things:

The US equity market is overvalued to an extent only experienced five times before in the past 212 years. On two occasions, however, it has risen well above the current degree of overvaluation.

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S&P 4,236…

We’ll see your bullish forecast, and we’ll raise you, Brian.

That’s Brian Belski, the BMO strategist who thinks that 10 per cent annual returns for the next decade are plausible for the US stock market. Read more

Irrational exuberance, Janet Yellen and the stock market

Janet Yellen says share valuations remain within “historical norms”.

Two words: “irrational exuberance”. Read more

Five ways with valuation

A quiet reformation continues.

One of the central articles of investing religion — that a forward price earnings ratio is a useful indicator of stock market value — is under sustained intellectual assault. Read more


An online service that matches buyers and sellers you say? Worth $18bn? Well, there are a lot of taxis in the world.

We have seen this one before though, so $18bn is entirely possible, if not necessarily sensible.

Consider this chart of the original dot com network effect superstar, eBay. Read more

The hegemony of homogeneity

Further evidence arrives that if you are looking for value stocks in these markets, then you are going to have a tough time of it.

Millennial Invest has charted the change in the dispersion of valuations over the last five years for the US market. What he finds is that it is not just the average valuation that rose in the long post crisis bull market, but the range of valuations has narrowed as well as the market has become much more homogenous.

What he looks at is something called the Ebitda yield. Read more

Bonds for the long run

If we know one thing about investing, it’s that time and the power of compounding make stocks an essential holding for savers, right?

Well, maybe not, at least when the choice is to hold bonds with a reasonable yield instead and the excess returns from stocks have been on a long term downward trend, something suggested by this presentation from Claude Erb, the West Coast based manager of TR.

Which is going to take us on a mostly chart based and, we hope, relatively painless tour of a wonky concept — the equity risk premium. But it’s also a way to come at those arguments about long term measures of stock market valuation, the Cape ratio and Shiller PE, from another direction. Read more

Earnings needed [Update]

About that European bull market. Enthusiasm is there, but the earnings not so much yet.

With little support from earnings, European equities continue to be re-rated in P/E and price/book terms. From 10x in late 2011 to 17x now, European equities trade above both post-1980 and post-1990 average P/Es.

Citi strategist Jonathan Stubbs finds that it’s not just the average, value stocks no longer offer great value either. So, look for places where corporate earnings are actually, y’know, growing. Read more

Turning Japanese

In addition to John Authers… please welcome James Mackintosh, the FT’s Investment Editor, as an Alphaville blogger. Like John, James has written for us before, on everything from fair value accounting to EM hot money.

Economists have been worrying about Europe turning Japanese. Investors seem to be more concerned about Japan turning European: for the first time since IBES started compiling forward price/earnings ratios in the 1980s, Japan is cheaper on this widely-used measure than Europe (as this chart shows): Read more

Worse than the Great Depression? The Cape Crusade continued

The battle to claim the long term is in full force, focused on the use, interpretation and adjustment of the Cape Ratio to value the US stock market.

Pessimists hold dear the Cyclically Adjusted Price Earnings ratio, a value calculation using average annual profits over 10 years, as a signal that equities have been overpriced pretty much since since the first Bush administration. Damn you irrational exuberance, the day of reckoning will come, just you wait… Read more

History says buy

Vroom vroom…

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Forecast suspicion du jour

Goldman Sachs have found a new way to show us that the European stock market is not cheap at all any more — although we’re not sure that was entirely their intention.

Indeed, their European strategists would have you buy the GSSTDMGR. That sounds like the plea for one last merger from a dying banker, but it means Goldman like companies which will grow as the European economy recovers. Read more

Margins to save themselves, European edition

In case you hadn’t noticed, European stocks are no longer cheap. Word reaches us from Morgan Stanley this morning that valuations are starting to look “somewhat full”.

Indeed, the median stock in Europe trades on 14.5x forward PE and 18% above the 5-year average – which is the top of the last 20 years range.

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Cheap China

China is cheap — at least on a price-to-book basis.

At 1.58x the P/BV of the MSCI China is still below the 2008/09 lows of 1.64x. At this level China is among the cheapest countries in the MSCI universe (Russia and Hungary are the cheapest) . Read more

James Montier on the value of dividends

FT Alphaville has been on a history kick lately, and thanks to James Montier — founder of the Behavioural Investing blog and a member of GMO’s asset allocation team — we can indulge it a bit longer.

Montier has just penned a new paper titled “A Man from a Different Time”, which he begins by looking into the historical importance of dividends to stock returns (emphasis ours): Read more