Markets Live chat transcript for the chat ending at 11:35 on 6 Oct 2011. Participants in this chat were: Neil Hume, FT Bryce Elder/FT pastit2
NH
Welcome to Markets Live
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and Neil Collins has joined us
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to ensure price stability
NH
I will say the following: first, we were called to deliver price stability! We were called on by all the democracies of Europe to deliver price stability and, in particular, of course by the 17 democracies that asked us to issue the currency in their 17 countries. We have delivered price stability over the first 12-13 years of the euro! Impeccably!
NH
let’s hope he’s prepared a valedictory
BE
I like the idea of him retiring to Brittany
BE
It’d make a good sitcom.
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Arguing with the local bread shop, etc.
NH
For 13 years the du pain in the eurozone….
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And, yes, we have a third voice today.
BE
Neil Collins joins us once more.
NC
Trichet: ze leak is not at my end of ze boat
BE
FT Alphaville’s weekend columnist and rabble rouser.
NH
is not the only central banker
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with a big decision to make today
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is also front and centre
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will he turn on the printing presses
NC
ECB – no cut (too embarrassing for M. T)
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for the inflation report
BE
So – a big day in which we expect nothing to happen.
NC
BOE might just want to sieze the initiative though
NH
let’s hear what the experts have to say
NH
The BoE concludes its two-day meeting at midday, and our official call remains for
no additional QE today. However, there are sizable risks to this view. Why do we
think the MPC will hold off until November?
NH
First, there’s the issue of the
quarterly Inflation Report, the next being published in November. Back in 2009,
the Bank made four announcements on QE: the initial £75bn then three
extensions.
NH
Three of those announcements were made on Inflation Report
months (admittedly the initial announcement was not), suggesting that the Bank is
more likely to move on an IR-month. Indeed, generally monetary policy has been
changed more often on IR months (45% of occasions) than on non-IR months
(about 20% of occasions).
NH
Moreover, the MPC may argue in favour of waiting
until yesterday’s sweeping revisions to GDP, which span more than 50 years, can
be incorporated into its new forecasts published next month before opting to
change policy. Still, these revisions are likely to mean lower inflation since the
combination of a stronger long-run trend in GDP and weaker outturns more
recently suggest a wider output gap.
NH
A second reason for waiting is that the domestic economic news has not been as
bad as might have been feared over the past month. This week’s PMIs are a case
in point – the whole-economy index now stands only one point below its long-run
average, consistent with economic growth of around 0.4% qoq according to the
compilers, Markit. GDP is expected to have risen in the third quarter too, albeit
partly in response to the temporary factors that weighed on growth the previous
quarter. In addition, inflation is likely to rise sharply in September when the
numbers are published on 18 October (too far ahead for the MPC to know the
figures at today’s meeting). While the markets remain fragile, equities have
recovered since the start of the week so the need for more QE right now may not
look as pressing as it might have done at the close of play on Tuesday
BE
Hang on – I’ll have a look.
NH
they are going for 25 basis points
NH
The ECB moved to a clear easing bias at the September 8th meeting, stating that the risks to growth were on the downside and risks to inflation were no longer to the upside but broadly balanced. Recent comments from some Governing Council members have suggested that action from the ECB may be forthcoming. While for some Council members the emphasis has been more on non-standard measures (eg, 1yr LTRO and Covered Bond Purchase Programme) than on the standard measures (ie, interest rate), at least a couple of National Central Bank Governors have publicly hinted that a cut in interest rates cannot be excluded.
NH
The survey data have continued to weaken sharply since the last meeting (eg, the composite PMI points to a euro area GDP contraction). This intensifies the Governing Council’s assessment of downside risks to the economic outlook and will challenge their expectation that growth will be “very moderate in the second half of this year”.
NH
However, we believe the 3% inflation print for September came at the wrong time and will likely strengthen the case for those on the Council preferring at this stage to focus only on additional non-standard measures to support bank liquidity. We recently changed our call and now believe there is a 60% chance the ECB will deliver a 25bp cut, from our previous expectation of a 60% chance of a 50bp cut, even though the environment warrants a larger rate cut. We do not expect a change in the corridor. We continue to expect that if the ECB does not cut rates in October, then it will have done so by the 3 November meeting.
NH
On the ECB language, we expect risks to inflation to remain “broadly balanced”. Risks to growth are likely to remain on the downside, though may be said to have intensified. Overall, the ECB will likely maintain its position to “monitor very closely all developments” which remains fully consistent with interest rate cuts.
We also expect the ECB to announce new support for the banking sector via its non-standard measures as the ECB views bank liquidity as the key issue that needs to be tackled. We continue to expect the ECB to announce extended liquidity operations via a new 1yr LTRO. If re-introduced, this would be the fourth 1yr LTRO conducted by the ECB. Spreads indicate that banks might take up large sums through the one-year operation, perhaps up to Eur 300-400bn, although some of this might be solely reallocation from other repo facilities.
NH
We believe the ECB are likely to re-introduce its Covered Bond Purchase Programme (ie. CBPP2), though this has both pros and cons (as it did at the time of its introduction in mid-2009). The ECB considers covered bonds as very safe assets and is comfortable with them from a risk perspective. The ECB could reopen the programme without announcing any specific size – which would give it the flexibility to stop the purchase when it considered it necessary – and scale it up to a larger level. Another key issue will be the allocation of the purchases amongst the NCBs.
As our colleagues have noted, covered bond supply has dried up as issuers appear to be waiting for more clarity before tapping the market. Since CBPP2 has come into focus as a possible policy response by the ECB, secondary market spreads have stabilised while a few issuers have accessed the market, though failed to get momentum behind the deals and reach benchmark size (of Eur 1bn).
NH
Special ML session today
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to say a fond farewell
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wants to saying about credit easing
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once he gets back into the system
BE
In the meantime, I promised SocGen on the decisions.
BE
It would appear that the BoE is less likely to deliver a
surprise. The minutes of the September meeting clearly
raised the possibility of additional quantitative easing
(QE2): the question is not whether the BoE will act, but
when. Of the 32 analysts polled by Bloomberg, 21 think
that the BoE will leave its programme of asset
purchases unchanged at GBP200bn today, 10 think
that it will increase the purchases to GBP250bn (SG
scenario), and 1 thinks that the bank could go as high
as GBP300bn. The economic indicators published
since the minutes give the BoE no reason to wait before
acting. The risk factor is that the BoE would decide to
increase its purchase programme up to GBP300bn.
NC
The spat between the Bank and Treasury says to me that neither wants to do it.
BE
As for the ECB, whereas a rate cut was considered
likely back in September when the euro debt crisis was
threatening financial markets and the real economy,
such is less the case since the announcement last
Friday of a sharp increase in the CPI (from 2.5% yoy to
3.0% yoy) and the stabilisation in European equity
markets this week. Of the 52 analysts polled by
Bloomberg, a majority expect rates to stay unchanged
at 1.50% (SG scenario), whereas 5 expect a 25bp rate
cut and 6 expect a 50bp cut. The central scenario has
rates unchanged and the resumption of 12-month
LTROs with full allotment. The risk factor is that the
ECB would cut its rates.
BE
How should we expect EUR/GBP and EUR and GBP
swap rates to react? There has never been a situation
quite like this in the past. However, we have identified
three cases that make an interesting comparison:
1) October 2008: the ECB cut its rates after having
raised them in August; 2) March 2009: the BoE makes
its first QE efforts; and 3) May 2009: the ECB’s first
LTRO.
BE
In cases 1 and 3, EUR/GBP and EUR/USD appreciated
slightly, and EUR and GBP swap rates rose.
Conversely, when the BoE first initiated its QE in March
2009 and the ECB was continuing its cycle of rate cuts,
EUR/USD and EUR/GBP weakened, while swap rates
eased. In each case, EUR/GBP and EUR/USD
fluctuated within a maximum range of 1 figure, and
rates varied by a maximum of 28bps.
NC
When the Bank started buying corporate debt at the start of QE, it made no difference
NC
The idea that buying a bond issued by BAT could somehow help small businesses to borrow is ridiculous
NC
credit easing is really little more than a political stunt
NH
and then on to some stocks
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FTSE up 1.6% at pixel.
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Ahead 83 points at 5185.
BE
Whatever. We’re up because we’re up.
NH
we are getting some more stress test
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there’s a chance they might be realistic
NC
the prospect of being showered with cash from the central bank cheers the traders up no end
NH
they will then be recapped
NH
no idea who pays for this
NH
and neither i suspect to do the policy makers
BE
With all due respect, that’s among the worst reasons I’ve every heard for a rally.
BE
We’re up because the patient MIGHT get a more accurate diagnosis.
BE
Even though we’re no closer to getting a cure.
NH
than any of the other reasons
NH
here’s an explanation for the rally
NH
Banks recap on it’s own is not enough, but it is an integral part of the solution. To reiterate Kinner’s comments yesterday: Recap, in itself, does not address the root cause of the crisis ie Eurozone sovereign contagion. No ‘realistic’ amount of capital can protect the banking system against a multi-sovereign default scenario. Banks recap needs to happen in conjunction with some mechanism to draw a line in the sand re: Sovereign contagion (leveraged EFSF), and further liquidity provision from the central banks to give the European banks breathing space (we may have some more action today on that issue from the ECB).
NH
ither way … in the last 2 weeks we have moved from not being sure that Europe was coordinated enough and didn’t ‘get’ it & the EFSF2 may not go through – to talk of a bazooka sized EFSF, multiple extra liquidity measures for the European Bankings system and a coordinated banks recap to ‘properly’ stressed levels, rather than the non-stressy stress tests that the investor base did not take seriously. The pace of action is speeding up rapidly and I think you would be hard pressed to suggest that the Politicians don’t ‘get it’ now.
NH
has some things to say on this
NH
he’s also sort of positive
NH
A new round of stress test is supposed to include larger write-downs of sovereign debt holdings and is reported to potentially find capital shortfalls of as much as €200bn. As we said yesterday, more bank capital is good, but solving the sovereign debt crisis would go a long way in improving the outlook for Europe’s banks. You cannot recapitalise banks to the extent they are able to withstand an Italian default and committing vast amounts of public funds without a solution alongside it that brings investor confidence in sovereign markets may well be counter-productive in the long term
NH
There is also the issue of where the funds for recapitalising the banks would come from. If the answer to that is EFSF, even in parts, then this would further reduce the amount available for supporting struggling sovereigns for which it is already widely agreed the fund is too small unless ways are found to ‘leverage’ it. If €100bn of EFSF’s €440bn are used to recapitalise banks (assuming France and Germany would not access the fund for their banks), with another €100bn already committed for the Irish and Portuguese rescues or expected to go towards the second Greek package, the remaining €190bn would last 22 weeks if the EFSF was to take over the ECB’s role of supporting secondary Spanish and Italian markets at the same pace as we have seen over the last 8 weeks (average €11bn per week). 22 weeks.
NH
One can only presume then that the EU is fully aware of this and that behind the scenes files marked “open only in the event of an emergency” are being dusted off and that what we are actually witnessing at the moment is all part of a grand plan where the banks are recapitalised whilst full support is given to the purchases of government bonds in anticipation of a larger than announced write down of Greek debt. Programs to assist with economic activity will then be announced and progress made on closer fiscal integration to end the crisis. Wales will then win the rugby world cup and I will wake up…
NH
what’s more likely then
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a Welsh victory at the rugby world cup
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or a comprehensive plan to save the euro?
NC
On stress tests, I love Michel Barnier in the FT today: “The situation has worsened since the stress tests”. So the tests were not designed to test stress, then
NC
Barnier is internal market commissioner at EC
NH
there’s also a view going around
NH
All the bears wishes have come true. But, is the US about to spoil the party once again – just as we go into the Q3 reporting season, with Alcoa reporting just 6 days away? In the face of the bearishness and European political congestion, some of the recent US data has been ignored, but in this time, off a low base, the Citi US econ surprise index (see below) has recovered all the way from -100 to -17 (and even old Europe has recovered from -100 to -83…..), at a time when AsiaPac data remains stagnant. The US surprise index is getting close to positive territory as it did in Q4 2010.
NC
There’s also evidence of falling delinquency rates on US credit card debt
BE
Can I offer something from SocGen on that theme?
BE
In the midst of a financial turmoil and sharp declines in
confidence, hard activity data has surprised on the upside
in Q3 and points to 2.5% GDP growth in the quarter. Not
surprisingly, our models suggest only a 5% probability that
the US entered recession in August. What is more
surprising is that the forward-looking probability models
also suggest low recession odds, at less than 10%. Simply
put, this cycle is too young to die a natural death. This
does not mean that a recession cannot happen, but it
needs an external trigger. Unfortunately, the recent
financial shock, if it continues, is already large enough to
derail the cycle prematurely. Our financial conditions index
is at a tipping point and, all else equal, suggest 65%
probability that the economy will enter recession in the
next 12 months.
BE
That’s hedging your bets, I guess.
NH
anyone speech Flemish?
NH
Belgium to Nationalize Dexia Bank Belgium
BE
The Belgian government will nationalize Dexia Bank Belgium. The time that learned from good sources. Meanwhile, also starting negotiations for the sale of the Luxembourg subsidiary Dexia Dexia BIL.
NC
Belgium has a caretaker PM who’s decided that a job as No2 at the OECD is better than trying to form a government
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Het core federal government came together this morning to rule on the future of Dexia Bank Belgium to bend. There were several scenarios on the table. One was the nationalization of Dexia Bank Belgium (DBB) . This means that the Belgian state DBB to quickly buy or forward at a good price to resell. The disadvantage of this scenario is that the shareholders suffer most because they are left with the unhealthy parts of the group (the bad bank), after all the healthy items such as SFM in the group are met.
NH
FTSE 100 now up 94 points at 5,196
NH
time for some stock related stuff
NH
I think we’d better start with a small cap today
NH
we might just have seen the UK profit warning on the year
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(European profit warning on the year – is Pandora)
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(11:30 office outage striking at the moment. We’re on backup generators.)
BE
Ok – you’re referring to Mouchel of course.
BE
One of those peculiar support services companies.
Mouchel Group PLC (MCHL:LSE): Last: 19.25, down 11.75 (-37.90%), High: 20.00, Low: 15.20, Volume: 4.73m
NH
I don’t know where to start with this
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warnings about contracts
NC
Mouchel website has a warning about boiler-room share scams!
NH
they should be more scared of
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he’s been through the books and discovered all sorts of nasties
NC
can we have have statement?
NH
In the Interim Management Statement on 15 June 2011, the Group reported that it expected a significant one-off profit on one of its long-term contracts to offset lower profitability than originally expected following commercial conclusions on a number of contracts.
NH
The Group was very recently informed that, as a result of an actuarial error, the one-off gain will be £4.3m lower than previously expected which has an immediate and corresponding impact on the profits the Group will report for the year to 31 July 2011.
NH
In addition, as part of the year-end audit process, Rod Harris, the new Finance Director, has reviewed contract risks and project claims, taking into account the continuing challenging business environment. As a result, the Group has decided to increase provisions in respect of these contract risks and project claims by a similar amount to the reduction in the one-off gain.
NH
Richard Cuthbert, Chief Executive, has tendered his resignation with immediate effect, and he will work with the Group for a short period to ensure an orderly handover. Bo Lerenius will become executive Chairman until a new Chief Executive has been appointed. The Board will make a further announcement as appropriate.
Bo Lerenius said: “I would like to express the Board’s gratitude to Rich for his many years of service and his continuing belief in and commitment to the business. The Board will focus on maintaining Mouchel’s position in its core markets in the interests of all its stakeholders.”
NC
Pre-close statement on Aug 4 said everything was (reasonably) fine
SABMiller PLC (SAB:LSE): Last: 2,145, up 45 (+2.14%), High: 2,152, Low: 2,106, Volume: 918.94k
NH
going round the City now
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AB InBev in Talks to Buy SABMiller for $80 Billion – spec only, unconfirmed
BE
Shares now up 186p at 22.86
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Fast markets in action.
NH
not sure this makes much sense
NH
how can they be in talks
NH
if SAB are buying Fosters
NH
we need the services of Google translate again
BE
Well, it makes perfect sense for the two of them to get together, which is why it’s been discussed for years.
NH
A AB InBev está perto de fechar o que pode ser um dos maiores negócios do mundo.
A cervejaria, liderada pelos brasileiros Jorge Paulo Lemann, Carlos Alberto Sicupira e Marcel Telles, negocia a compra da SABMiller, a segunda maior cervejaria do mundo.
O negócio gira em torno de US$ 80 bilhões.
Se for fechada, a negociação dará à AB InBev – controladora da Ambev – um terço do mercado de cerveja do planeta.
A AB InBev e a SABMiller são complementares. Somente na China e nos Estados Unidos poderá haver sobreposição de negócios. Mas, nas outras regiões do mundo, as atividades das duas gigantes são complementares.
A AB InBev não esconde seu poderio financeiro.
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Anheuser is close to finalizing what may be one of the largest business in the world.
The brewery, led by Brazilian Jorge Paulo Lemann , Carlos Alberto Sicupira and Marcel Telles , negotiates the purchase of SABMiller, the second largest brewery in the world.
The business revolves around U.S. $ 80 billion.
If it is closed, trading will give Anheuser – AmBev’s controlling – a third of the world beer market.
AB InBev and SABMiller are complementary. Only China and the United States there may be overlapping business. But in other regions of the world, the activities of the two giants are complementary.
BE
Anheuser did not hide his financial might.
Three years after buying Anheuser-Busch owns the Budweiser brand, the company has already paid off the amount that was due to be paid over five years.
With that, the company has cash for new acquisitions.
One of the characteristics of the trio who runs the brewery is an appreciation for doing business in times of crisis.
The first major step was the purchase of the shareholders of Brahma, on the eve of the first direct election in the country Terrified at the thought of Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva won the election, the owners of the Brahma sold the brewery at a price below the market.
But that year, Lula was defeated at the polls by Fernando Collor de Mello .
In 1999, amid a sharp devaluation of the real, Brahma joined Antarctica, creating Ambev.
Five years later, the company closed the acquisition of Belgian brewer Interbrew.
In 2008, amid the bursting of the global crisis, AmBev closed the purchase of Anheuser-Busch.
And now, while developed countries find themselves in a new global turmoil, the company can close the biggest deal in history.
BE
Ok – my first question is: who is Guilherme Barros?
NH
and why does he call InBev
NH
and why has the market
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lifted the price by 8%
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on the back of something
NH
I’m sure most traders can’t read??
BE
Looking at the rest of his blog, it seems rather more prosaic.
BE
The fourth edition of Senac 2011 Recognition Award, which honors students and alumni who have distinguished themselves in the labor market, will be master of ceremonies conductor João Carlos Martins awards in three units Senac Santo André, Santos and Osasco.
BE
The Santa Cruz Shopping launches a virtual promotion of children in months. To participate, simply take a picture of the client on the stand of the event and authorize its publication on the Facebook page of the mall. The picture more “short” will win a Playstation 2.
BE
I’m a bit cautious on this.
BE
Though that’s no reason not to revisit the AB/SAB merger theory.
NH
isn’t there a poison pill
NH
in the share of the Molson deal?
NH
someone telling me there was
BE
Yeah – the Molson-Coors JV.
BE
There are ways round it.
NC
what about the Fosters bid?
BE
I’m not sure Fosters was ever considered a poison pill.
NC
would that be dropped? could it be dropped?
NH
apparently InBev debt levels also too high for this
BE
Just a slightly desperate acquisition, which I assume would be abandoned.
BE
Hang on, I’ll try to find some of the sellside doing the maths on this one.
NC
World domination in beer. Why?
BE
Because there’s one more merger to be done in this sector, I guess.
BE
Same logic with tobacco. There’s one more deal to do.
NH
Reuters ran a big piece on this
NH
In a global brewing industry marked by huge consolidation over the last decade, bankers are hopeful of an $80 billion plus deal to end all deals between the industry’s two giants, Anheuser-Busch InBev (ABI.BR) and SABMiller (SAB.L).
If AB InBev buys SABMiller it could be the biggest cash takeover in history and would create a group brewing a third of the world’s beer. Analysts and bankers suggest 2013 as a likely time frame for a takeover that is seen as the final play in deal making in big world brewing.
They say the world’s No 1 brewer AB InBev will not be deterred from making a move for SABMiller even after the No 2 brewer swallows up Australia’s Foster’s by the end of 2011 in a $10.2 billion deal.
NH
SABMiller is attractive to AB InBev due to the London-listed brewer’s large operations in the high-growth emerging markets of Africa, South America and eastern Europe which will help AB InBev reduce its reliance on the tough U.S. beer market
“Over 90 percent of AB InBev’s earnings come from America, so a move for SABMiller would create a real powerhouse with big operations on six continents,” said another banker.
“AB InBev has been built by a string of good M&A deals over the last decade so the market is likely to support one final deal based on its impressive record especially with the Anheuser-Busch deal,” the banker added.
NH
you can read the rest here
BE
We’ve talked this game many times over the past few years. I
BE
The companies don’t compete locally, but for a couple of markets, so sticking them together makes some sense.
BE
Is now the time? Dunno.
NH
lets get back to Mouchel
NH
the worst sector of the stock market
NH
we’ve had in the past couple of years
NH
the one beginning with E
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or how they charge for it
NH
and in the case of Mouchel things are made much much worse
NH
because they rejected several bids
NH
VT Group approached Mouchel with a 294p-a-share proposal in February 2010. More recently, Mouchel rejected a 151p indicative offer from Costain and turned down an advance from Interserve, which cut its bid to 135p after conducting due diligence.
NC
They bid for contracts, but often have little idea of how much they will cost
Mouchel Group PLC (MCHL:LSE): Last: 19.50, down 11.5 (-37.10%), High: 20.00, Low: 15.20, Volume: 4.86m
NH
they book the profit up front
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and hope to find another contract
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to keep the profits rolling in
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one of the contracts goes badly wrong
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and then the whole things unravels
NC
Will Mouchel’s CEO be rewarded for failure? It’s the usual way
NH
once this mess is cleared up
NH
Costain and Interserve
NH
must be breathing a huge sigh of relief today
NH
who’s the biggest shareholder in Mouchel
NH
FY 2011 EPS reduced by 66%. We continue to expect net debt of £87m. No
sugar coating. It is difficult to see how that would not result in a breach.
Richard Cuthbert, the CE, is leaving. HOLD.
NH
We continue to expect net debt of £87m – The two items that cause today’s
statement are both described as ‘non-recurring and non cash’. We hope they are
non-recurring. However, we would question whether they are non-cash.
Increased provisions must suggest lower contract profitability, which would
indicate to us lower cash. We accept that the provisioning does not affect the
year end cash.
NH
Mouchel took on the obligation to fund the deficits; they then returned the deficit
to the client as part of a new commercial settlement. Mouchel had booked £6.3m
through the P&L and now taking £2m, since the actuarial valuation of the pension
fund was incorrect. The increased contract provisions (debt, WIP etc) are across
the board. We believe that this reflects a mixture of overly-aggressive
accounting, and the deterioration in trading conditions.
NH
It is difficult to see how that would not result in a breach – We believe that the
most restrictive covenants are Debt/EBITDA of 3.55x and EBITDA/interest of
3.02x. New estimates imply 3.1x and 2.4x, which implies a breach of at last one
covenant.
NH
Richard Cuthbert, the CE, is leaving – This will provide solace to some investors.
However, Richard had some strong relationships with customers, and customer
and personnel retention may become even more of an issue.
NH
they clearly need a cash call
NH
can they do one at 17p
NH
and would anyone back it?
NH
Mouchel has issued a significant profit warning ahead of its full year results, reflecting a reduced expectation of one-off profit, as well as a review of contract risks and increase in provisions. Chief Executive, Richard Cuthbert, has resigned with immediate effect.
NH
We understand the reduced pension gain relates to an actuarial error in assessing the size of a pension liability, which had left the group as part of contract settlement. Mouchel previously anticipated treating this reversal as a one-off gain through its income statement, but the quantum of the benefit has now reduced as a result of actuarial error.
NH
We were not aware that the prior one-off gain related to a pension credit. However, it is the increased provisions in relation to contract risks which are more concerning, in our view, raising further questions as to the group’s internal controls, processes and risk assessment. Both the one-off gain and provision are described as non-recurring and non-cash for the current year. As such, we would still expect year-end net debt of £87.4m. However, it is incorrect, in our view, to state that the increased contract provisions are non-cash, as clearly they have negative inference for prospective cash generation.
NH
Chief Executive, Richard Cuthbert, has understandably resigned, with Chairman Bo Lerenius moving from a Non-Executive to an Executive capacity with immediate effect until a suitable replacement is found.
NH
The reassessment of contract risk raises further questions with regards to internal controls and crucially does not bode well for prospective debt reduction (a voluntary payment of £30m is also required by 31 May 2012). The negative consequences of today’s statement and management change will also act as a further setback as the group tries to build its BPO capability and deliver a wider business turnaround. We shall review our forecasts, fair value and rating subject to today’s adverse share price movement.
BE
Indeed. Most of the broker comment’s just a bit shellshocked.
NC
If this was one-off, the shareholders might back a cash call, but this company seems both accident prone and incapable of recognising a decent offer when it’s in front of them.
BE
I think it’s a bit redundant to call such snafus a “one off”
BE
What on earth would they be?
BE
The alternative is to have a recurring disaster.
BE
Anyway, here’s Panmure.
BE
As harsh as it sounds but management change may be
the only catalyst to get the share price moving up. The group has attracted enough
external interest in the last few years with four “bid approaches” but nothing has
transpired. Its valuation is not demanding at c3x P/E and 0.22x EV/sales. We, belatedly,
reduce our target price to 35p and stay neutral.
BE
With net debt at £87.4m
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interest cover of 2.4x and net debt to ebitda of 2.7x.
BE
Just because it looks cheap doesn’t mean it is.
NH
12:00 06Oct11 RTRS-BANK OF ENGLAND MAINTAINS KEY UK INTEREST RATE AT 0.5 PCT
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*BOE RAISES ASSET PURCHASE TARGET TO 275 BLN PNDS
NH
6 October 2011
The Bank of England’s Monetary Policy Committee today voted to maintain the official Bank Rate paid on commercial bank reserves at 0.5%. The Committee also voted to increase the size of its asset purchase programme, financed by the issuance of central bank reserves, by £75 billion to a total of £275 billion.
NH
The pace of global expansion has slackened, especially in the United Kingdom’s main export markets. Vulnerabilities associated with the indebtedness of some euro-area sovereigns and banks have resulted in severe strains in bank funding markets and financial markets more generally. These tensions in the world economy threaten the UK recovery.
NH
n the United Kingdom, the path of output has been affected by a number of temporary factors, but the available indicators suggest that the underlying rate of growth has also moderated. The squeeze on households’ real incomes and the fiscal consolidation are likely to continue to weigh on domestic spending, while the strains in bank funding markets may also inhibit the availability of credit to consumers and businesses. While the stimulatory monetary stance and the present level of sterling should help to support demand, the weaker outlook for, and the increased downside risks to, output growth mean that the margin of slack in the economy is likely to be greater and more persistent than previously expected.
NH
CPI inflation rose to 4.5% in August. The present elevated rate of inflation primarily reflects the increase in the standard rate of VAT in January and the impact of higher energy and import prices. Inflation is likely to rise to above 5% in the next month or so, boosted by already announced increases in utility prices. But measures of domestically generated inflation remain contained and inflation is likely to fall back sharply next year as the influence of the factors temporarily raising inflation diminishes and downward pressure from unemployment and spare capacity persists.
NH
The deterioration in the outlook has made it more likely that inflation will undershoot the 2% target in the medium term. In the light of that shift in the balance of risks, and in order to keep inflation on track to meet the target over the medium term, the Committee judged that it was necessary to inject further monetary stimulus into the economy. The Committee therefore voted to increase the size of its asset purchase programme, financed by the issuance of central bank reserves, by £75 billion to a total of £275 billion. The Committee also voted to maintain Bank Rate at 0.5%. The Committee expects the announced programme of asset purchases to take four months to complete. The scale of the programme will be kept under review.
NC
Who cares about the currency? Let’s get printing!
NH
up 115 points at 5,218
BE
Euro thing’s 1.1484 on the bid.
BE
Or 0.87, if you prefer.
NH
so in spite of inflation going above 5%
NH
in the next few months
NH
they are printing more money
NH
I think we can see the plan here
NH
inflate our way out of the mess
NH
and boosted the manufacturing sector
BE
For those asking, the range of purchase options are unchanged.
NC
Oddly, inflation may be harder to maintain than we’re used to thinking
BE
And they’ll be buying evenly across all three maturities.
NC
Oddly enough, I suspect inflation may be harder to sustain than we’re used to thinking
BE
*BOE SEES INFLATION UNDERSHOOTING 2% TARGET IN MEDIUM TERM
NC
The VAT rise drops out of the figure in January, no real pressure on wages, flat or falling fuel/commodity prices…
BE
“Medium term” is BOE jargon for mañana.
NH
just the imports to worry about then
NC
this time they may actually be right for a change
NH
and rising commodity prices
NH
pamp2: that is what the breakevens say. 2.3% (rpi) on 5y5y = <2% cpi
NH
perhaps the bank will be right
NC
fear factor drives short rates, though
NH
At its meeting today, the Monetary Policy Committee judged that, in order to keep inflation on
track to meet the 2% inflation target over the medium term, its programme of asset purchases
should be increased to a total of £275 billion and Bank Rate should be maintained at 0.5%. That
would take the scale of the Committee’s asset purchase programme financed by the issuance of
central bank reserves above the £200 billion authorised in your predecessor’s letter of 5 November
2009
NH
In the United Kingdom, the path of output has been affected by a number of temporary factors, but
the available indicators suggest that the underlying rate of growth has also moderated. The squeeze
on households’ real incomes and the fiscal consolidation are likely to continue to weigh on
domestic spending, while the strains in bank funding markets may also inhibit the availability of
credit to consumers and businesses. While the stimulatory monetary stance and the present level of
sterling should help to support demand, the weaker outlook for, and the increased downside risks
to, output growth mean that the margin of slack in the economy is likely to be greater and more
persistent than previously expected.
NH
doesn’t say too much that’s different
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NH
the other question here is whether
NC
BoE obsessed with “unused capacity” in the economy. Apart from the unemployed, there probably isn’t much, and what there was has been lost.
NH
here’s something from UBS
NH
The Bank of England looks likely to relaunch its QE programme in the coming
weeks, focused on Gilt purchases. We believe this is either a knowingly empty
gesture or demonstrates an ongoing lack of understanding about the BoE’s own
role in the lack of credit available to the economy. Monetary policy is ‘loose’ in
terms of policy rates but very tight for real-world borrowers – because of
regulatory actions
NH
What would make a real difference, in our opinion, and far more effective than
the part-formed proposals made by the Chancellor on 3 October in terms of
getting credit flowing, would be for the Bank to launch its QE on bank senior
bonds. We consider these to be the key to the system: without ongoing issuance
capacity here, the banks are always watching a clock ticking down and will
behave accordingly. QE would also be appropriate because the key driver of
current elevated spreads (Chart 4) is predominantly the result of regulatory
behaviours. We discuss these in more detail in this report.
NH
We believe the UK banks have seen cash inflows during this leg of the crisis – a
sharp contrast with 2008. However, should the Eurozone crisis persist, we think the
authorities’ lack of willingness to allow draw-downs of the £400 billion in liquidity
buffers the banks have built up will intensify the lack of credit in the economy.
NH
that’s what the BoE should be buying
NC
Bank senior bonds! We already own the equity. Now we’re being asked to buy ther debt as well
NH
)@markopolo. you are probably right)
BE
Ok – should we get back to the specifics of the day?
BE
(Michelin’s out. No new UK 3 stars. The rubbish Pollen Street Social, the mediocre Dinner and the utterly foul Hakkasan Mayfair all get singles. Boo)
BE
Right – ok – anyway ……..
BE
To the faller I think.
BE
What’s missing out on the QE2 rally?
Admiral Group PLC (ADM:LSE): Last: 1,251, down 12 (-0.95%), High: 1,275, Low: 1,240, Volume: 627.78k
NH
I had a very interesting conversation about this company
NH
with the insurance analyst at Oriel Securities
NH
he’s not happy with their accounting
NH
in fact that’s something of an understatement
NH
you will need to wrap a cold towel round your head
NH
but you should get the drift
NH
In 2007 Admiral started doing a number of things differently. It changed its
coinsurance and reinsurance arrangements which gave it more profit commission
NH
This is a big incentive for a broker/MGA to write more business. (Admiral’s
reinsurance means it can be considered to be a broker that also does underwriting).
Much of the reinsurance moved to a ‘funds withheld’ basis, which improves the cash
position of the company, but makes little difference to accounting profit or capital.
NH
The company started to ramp up production aggressively. As market premiums rose
it increased its own premiums but still undercut the market. Within the 4 years to end
2010 it had doubled its vehicle count to 2.8m or 10% of the market, with apparently
no deterioration in underwriting performance.
NH
and now it gets interesting
BE
(@Tony T: Pied a Terre’s docked one star. Bit of a scunner, that.)
NH
The company has always run two sets of accounts. The ‘own claims’ or management
accounts are based on case estimates and seem reasonably reserved. These are
what the reinsurers (we feel sensibly) use to pay profit commission, much of which
emerges in subsequent years. By contrast the reported accounts (IFRS, FSA and
FSC) contain claims reserves based on projected ultimate losses, which are usually
lower than case estimates.
NH
After 2007 the management and reported accounts
started to diverge to a much greater extent than had been the case prior to 2007. The
difference is presented as negative IBNR in the statutory accounts. This now
represents a £99m discount between ‘case’ and reported reserves. From a statutory
perspective we don’t think there is necessarily anything wrong with negative IBNR,
provided the reported claims reserves are sufficient to pay claims (although we feel
this defeats the object of holding claims reserves in the first place). With lower claims
reserves, Admiral appears to have higher capital adequacy, and accelerates the
emergence of profit compared to the management accounts.
NH
The real problem is that bodily injury claims in the tail are now rising and from our
paid claims analysis it appears that there is little excess in the claims reserves. At the
interim results, Admiral increased claims reserves for the 2007-09 underwriting years
and showed a negative profit commission for these years.
NH
In our opinion Admiral appears to be under-reserved and undercapitalised. The £99m
of negative IBNR at end 2010 compares to £67m of excess capital in the statutory
entities (£40m over RMM at AI(G) and £27m excess over CRR at AICL).
NH
something doesn’t stack up
NC
negative incurred but not reported?
NH
Admiral has had the same auditor for more than a decade
NH
the Cardiff branch of PWC
NH
not that that means anything
NH
is on to something here
BE
That’s all ineresting stuff.
BE
And I know the company is keen to mount a robust defence to each of these observations.
NH
have we had a visit from their non exec yet?
BE
And, for the sake of clarity, today’s fall isn’t to do with Oriel’s forensic work.
BE
It’s more to do with this more prosaic piece from Exane.
BE
The market has priced in continuous growth into 2013, with no loss of market share.
We believe above market returns are possible in this industry but not when you are
more than 10% of the motor market. Likely action to make it harder to claim whiplash
will probably see market underwriting move closer to Admiral, causing Admiral to
refocus on more profitable niches. We believe Admiral has a limited expense
advantage, especially compared to Aviva and RBS.
BE
We expect that banning referral fees will have a limited impact on motor insurance
premiums. The cost of a whiplash claim being on average GBP80 per policy, and
although claims farming is possibly driving this up, motor insurance premiums are
unlikely to fall back to the level of 2009.
BE
Admiral’s rapid growth could mean that it has only seen a small number of large bodily
injury claims, and more have yet to emerge. This remains a concern, especially
following RBS’s experience of significant reserve strengthening. Moves to limit personal
injury claims should benefit Admiral’s claims experience and reserve development.
BE
Even after the sell off, Admiral is still among the top insurance performers in 2011.
The leverage implied in the business model, by using reinsurance capital rather than
shareholder equity, means Admiral is structurally weak in a fair fight (an industry with
smaller combined ratio differences) against peers. If changes level the underwriting
advantages, Admiral is the likely loser. We see volumes declining in 2012, giving
significantly below consensus earnings for 2013.
BE
Whichever way, Admiral’s grown extremely fast at relatively little expense and no-one is entirely convinced by the explanations why.
NC
Punters are learning that there is a stiff penalty for loyalty in motor insurance. It’s tedious but worthwhile to shop around every year. Daft from the company’s viewpoint, considering the cost of acquisition of the business.
NH
to let me insurance lapse
NH
and get a better quote
BE
Oils and miners? We can hardly ignore them.
NH
they have been down a bit recently
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BE
Simple

BE
Nothing really on the news pages to justify it.
BP PLC (BP.:LSE): Last: 386.75, down 3.55 (-0.91%), High: 390.13, Low: 383.38, Volume: 17.19m
NC
Thiscompany really is worth more dead than alive
BE
Fred Lucas cut forecasts across the sector last night.
NH
because there are rumours of a mind meld
BE
Not that I’ve seen. Yet.
BE
Though I’m not going to be surprised if JP Morgan sets the precedent
BE
Whether that’s after a bit of prompting from BP’s IR department …. well, who knows?
BE
We certainly don’t, and will not be drawn into speculation.
BE
Most macro drivers weaker Q3-o-Q2 – Most key macro variables
have averaged down Q3-o-Q2; this will enforce weaker earnings Q3-oQ2. We warn that consensus EPS for 2011, but more importantly 2012
look vulnerable and we expect negative revisions to precede and follow
Q3 results as oil price optimism dissipates (sell-side median Brent 2012
is $108 vs the Brent futures curve $96 and JPMe $95 per barrel) and we
transit from a market where supply shortages have set the oil price to
one where OPEC’s supply curtailment strategy will set the price. We
downgrade 2011-13 EPS forecasts to reflect another downturn in
refining and chemical earnings and remain below a falling consensus.
BE
Sector’s valuation screens well – The European oil sector’s trailing
PER is around half the market’s average. The sector’s historic dividend
yield averages around 5%, around 10% lower than the market average.
We do not see any risks of dividend cuts in the sector – management
ought to emphasize this. For the UK names, we measure a range of
discounts to our SOTPs: Shell – 25%, BG Group –37% and BP – 52%.
BE
Sector themes for Q3 2011 results season – Shareholder activism has
come to the foreground in Europe (Repsol, Sacyr/Pemex) as has
downstream restructuring (TOTAL and OMV). Share buy backs remain
the exception in Europe with only RD Shell repurchasing stock to offset
dilution from scrip dividends. Given the deteriorating macro outlook, we
do not expect other companies to follow. As Brent (WTI) pushes below
$100 ($80) per barrel, talk of lower capex and project delays may feature
on the Q3 calls. Down-cycle M&A action remains a possibility- if
nothing else, we expect further speculation regarding listed targets given
very depressed stock market ratings (BG Group). Transaction data will
continue to inform the market, especially with respect to the industry’s
valuation of pre-salt reserves in Brazil (GALP pre-salt sale pending).
BE
Sector outperformed 7% in Q3 and 9M 2011 – The European oil &
gas sector outperformed the market by 7% in Q3 and by 7% in 9M 2011.
The historic odds of sector outperformance in Q4 are the weakest of the
four quarters, at just 35%. Total sterling returns from the three UK names
in 9M 2011 were -1% from RD Shell B, -3% from BG Group, and -14%
from BP that remains the laggard pending Macondo settlements.
NH
analysts now picking over the detail of the statement
NH
is being acquired over four months
NH
Here’s Deutsche’s Alan Ruskin
NH
GBP thrown under the QE bus
NH
A few things stand-out immediately on BOE QE decision to do extra 75bn, which was more than the market expected, but spread over 4 months, so this should dilute some of the impact from doing more.
NH
The 4 months seems like it may be there to tie in with the timing of future inflation reports. The comments that inflation will rise above 5% in the short-term, and then undershoot 2% in the medium-term asks a lot of the market to believe, but is the foundation of the decision to use QE again.
NH
The other comments relating to financial stress (“Vulnerabilities associated with the indebtedness of some euro-area sovereigns and banks have resulted in severe strains in bank funding markets and financial markets more generally. These tensions in the world economy threaten the UK recovery”) were at the top of their statement in explaining their actions.
NH
The BOE is the first central bank to jump back into full blown QE in the this latest phase of stress so no surprise to see the pound get tarred. I doubt we will see any real follow through in next hour or so as the market turns attention to the ECB. Nonetheless, the BOE’s actions, and likely willingness to follow through with further QE beyond the initial 4 months, will leave the pound vulnerable versus the USD, at least until the Fed shows it is willing to jump the hurdles to QE3. Sharpen your pencils trendline off the 2009 low comes in just above 1.50 as a clear initial target.
BE
Should we wrap up for a quick break?
NH
for the Trichet presser
NH
when we will have more on the BoE decision
BE
(ROTR: the next comment about train tickets get’s life. This isn’t Moneysavingexpert.com)
BE
And, with that, farewell.