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Markets Live transcript 3 Oct 2011

Markets Live chat transcript for the chat ending at 11:27 on 3 Oct 2011. Participants in this chat were: Bryce Elder/FT Neil Hume, FT

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So good morning.
BE
And welcome to Markets Live
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Wasn’t it a nice weekend?
BE
Two days of not worrying about Greek default.
BE
Sadly, the weekend must end.
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not really
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pretty awful if you ask me
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still at least the market is donw
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that makes me feel a bit better
BE
Fair enough. And down it certainly is.
BE
Tonne off the FTSE again.
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Off 110 at 5019 at pixel.
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still holding that important level
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(praxis – I’m talking about moving house Emoticon)
BE
Well, bear in mind that we’re down nearly 1000 points in three months.
NH
worst month in 9 years
BE
Worst quarter, certainly
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Since the very bottom of the dot-comedy
BE
Which, in retrospect, seems a lot more fun than the current sell-off.
BE
Where we don’t really need reasons to drop 100 points a day.
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yes
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that was a funny time
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many silly valuations
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this is altogether more serious
BE
Indeed. Back then we had business models made of unicorn dust
BE
Now, we’re just haunted by a nebulous sense of doom.
BE
Anyway, should we move on to what’s moving?
NH
well
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there’s only two things up
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in the FTSE 100
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and no prizes for guessing what they are
Randgold Resources Ltd (RRS:LSE): Last: 6,380, up 90 (+1.43%), High: 6,440, Low: 6,210, Volume: 132.29k
Fresnillo PLC (FRES:LSE): Last: 1,596, up 10 (+0.63%), High: 1,616, Low: 1,524, Volume: 188.65k
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flight to safety
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and there’s been a deal in the sector
WARNING!Crowded long. Every hedge fund in London owns this Greek gold play, even though it doesn’t have a permit to mine.
European Goldfields Ltd (EGU:LSE): Last: 643.40, up 118.4 (+22.55%), High: 647.00, Low: 520.81, Volume: 259.10k
NH
more on that later
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suffice to say
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it’s not the deal the HF’s were looking for
BE
Qatar change of control for minimal premium. Yes, we’ll come back to that.
BE
First, however, how are the rest of the miners doing?
NH
badly
Vedanta Resources PLC (VED:LSE): Last: 1,049, down 52 (-4.72%), High: 1,071, Low: 1,041, Volume: 205.16k
Rio Tinto PLC (RIO:LSE): Last: 2,778, down 111 (-3.84%), High: 2,911, Low: 2,744, Volume: 1.77m
Glencore International PLC (GLEN:LSE): Last: 386.80, down 16.1 (-4.00%), High: 402.05, Low: 380.05, Volume: 3.55m
Xstrata PLC (XTA:LSE): Last: 788.80, down 32 (-3.90%), High: 862.19, Low: 780.00, Volume: 3.84m
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China slow down fears innit?
BE
(Glencore flotation price was 530p, in case anyone’s forgotten.)
BE
Yes, that would seem to be it.
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although there’s no real reason for that
BE
Nope. No catalyst.
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China PMI wasn’t too bad
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all things considered
BE
And China’s on holiday today, isn’t it?
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yeah
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there are some downgrades knocking around
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a big note out of Morgan Stanley
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in which it slashes commodity price forecasts
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across the board
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but maintains
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a positive stance on gold
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I can grab
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if you’d like to see
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With the rapidly diminishing prospect of global growth being robust enough to deliver stronger
base metals prices next year, we have lowered our base price forecasts in 2012, by 16.1% on a
weighted average basis, and cut our copper price 17.4%. By contrast, we have further increased
our gold forecasts to reflect our conviction that, in an environment of risk aversion, despite a
strengthening US$, demand for this commodity safe haven will be strong. We have increased our
base- and bull-case forecasts for 2012 by 35% to $2,200/oz and $2,464/oz, respectively.
NH

We have revised our earnings and PTs following the release of our new commodity forecasts,
(see ‘Today’s Changes’) – we prefer Rio Tinto (OW) on valuation and high exposure to iron ore,
and we continue to believe that Glencore’s (OW) earnings will prove relatively more resilient in a
downturn. We have cut our EBITDA estimates for diversified large caps by a weighted average of
5%. We now expect earnings to rise by c.9% yoy (vs.13% previously), mainly driven by the
volume growth that will partly mitigate the decline in commodity prices. Miners with high exposure
to iron ore have had the smallest downgrades given the commodity’s resilience, while our largest
earnings downgrades have been with companies with high exposure to base metals and coal.
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and here’s the end on a positive bit
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Gold producers to benefit the most: We increase our
PTs for both African Barrick Gold (OW) and Randgold
(UW) by around 30% to reflect the significant uplift in
gold price forecasts. We expect earnings to grow by
>95%, thus projecting both companies to deliver
sector-leading earnings growth in 2012. While both
would benefit from higher gold prices, ABG remains our
relative top pick on valuation and operating leverage
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but it’s not just miners
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being hit
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by these China jitters
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it’s anything with exposure
BE
Huge derating of Burberry over the past week or so.
NH
yes
Burberry Group PLC (BRBY:LSE): Last: 1,108, down 66 (-5.62%), High: 1,145, Low: 1,096, Volume: 1.99m
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looked at this on Friday
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still expensive
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vs it peers
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and results are looming
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have sales been affected by the market malaise in September?
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or not?
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most brokers remain positive
BE
Most rivals do to. Prada said everything was fine a couple of weeks ago.
NH
Here’s the latest note on the Co
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via Nomura
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Burberry 1H results: expect +29% const FX sales growth 

Burberry reports a first half trading update on Wednesday, 12 October. We expect 29% constant currency sales growth to £820m, representing 2Q sales of £453m, or growth of 26% at constant currency compared with 34% in Q1. Within this mix we assume retail comp store sales growth of 13% and reported wholesale sales growth of 9%.

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Expect margins down as guided, given investment weighting 

We expect continued gross margin gains through mix (retail, Asia) to offset raw material cost inflation and percentage margin dilution from performance of Prorsum and London and expanding categories such as shoes and kidswear. However, Burberry has previously highlighted that operating costs (including: flagships, customer service, share schemes and China retail costs as well as space related and inflation) in the current year will be first half weighted. As a result, we look for a 50bps 1H EBIT margin decline in the key retail/wholesale division with a modest 60bps increase in the FY.

RAW is market chatter – information that has not been formally tested through traditional journalistic channels (PRs etc). The story might be complete rubbish, but if we believe there is some substance to it we will say so. Either way, Reader Beware.
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2H optical slowdown given increasingly more difficult comps 

Across the luxury space, comps become increasingly more challenging in 2H. We estimate +16% 2H organic wholesale/retail sales growth (retail comp stores +6%, wholesale reported +7%), which in part accounts for 2-year comp becoming substantially more difficult in 2H vs. 1H. We appreciate that part of this is owing to the transfer of China wholesale sales into retail last year with the acquisition of franchises.

NH

Investment to drive future growth the best way of sustaining the multiple in our view 

Burberry’s strategy of reinvesting underlying gains to drive further growth is working with arguably some of the greatest gains to come following this year’s flagship, creative, service and digital investments. Given the recent pullback in the shares, the stock offers some upside to our 1,356p DCF/P/E multiple based price target.

BE
Hm.
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Meanwhile, Goldman’s playing the old M&A card
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the last refuge of a scoundrel
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that one
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What can you do when you’re “conviction buy” on a stock that’s fallen ~30%?
NH
average down
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keep buying
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Yes. Average down in the belief that your maths are fine
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And it’s therefore a bid target.
BE
Here, for the sake of completeness, is their note.
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Luxury robust: Structural growth mispriced
As the market continues to adjust to a two-speed macro environment, we believe robust luxury sales and
earnings will drive estimate upgrades and act as a positive catalyst for share prices. We revise our estimates
and price targets to reflect ongoing strength in Asia-Pacific. Our FY11-13E EPS are 8%, 18% and 27% ahead
of I/B/E/S consensus; our 12m price targets indicate average upside of 54%. We assess the risks to this view
and estimate the market is pricing no earnings growth for Luxury Goods (vs. GSe 2012E +28%).
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Bifurcation a theme to invest: Growth and returns of Luxury to continue to diverge
We expect the sector to deliver growth and returns at an increasing premium to the market. We forecast a
sales CAGR of 16.7% in FY11-13 (vs. 5.5% for the wider consumer sector and the luxury historical (2001-11)
average of 8%).
BE
Hear that, everyone? Bifurcation!
NH
what?
NH
Bifurcation and Burberry????
BE
Oh, I dunno.
BE

Luxury brands are scarce assets
Scalable luxury brands are scarce and highly valued assets for those looking to access growth.
BE

Cash at all-time highs
Cash balances across luxury are at all-time highs (0.2x net cash to EBITDA), enabling companies to continue
to invest in growth. This, along with undemanding valuations (sector average 8x EV/EBITDAR 2012E) and (1)
the need for capacity (upstream), (2) a scarcity of brands that can attract new consumers (horizontal) and (3)
the need for experienced distributors (downstream), suggests M&A could pick up.
BE
Earth to Goldman: no it couldn’t.
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Buy quality, growth, returns …
Our preference remains for growth and returns leaders: Richemont and Burberry are our top picks (both
Conviction Buy).
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Not at the moment
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… and strategic assets ahead of acquirers
We identify Burberry, Hermes, Tod’s and Hugo Boss as strategic assets and introduce an M&A premium into
our price targets for these stocks. Prada and Ferragamo have similar characteristics, but we believe their
family holding structures and recent listings make them less likely to be targets. LVMH and PPR appear the
most likely acquirers.
NH
the only deals happening right now
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are the truly desperate paying massive premiums for stuff
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ie
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HP
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As we’ve said ad nauseum, M&A doesn’t happen when things are cheap
BE
It happens when things are expensive.
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and when animal spirits are high
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And when two stuffed shirts can agree on hugely over-inflated valuations.
NH
on this sell China theme
Standard Chartered PLC (STAN:LSE): Last: 1,225, down 62.5 (-4.86%), High: 1,255, Low: 1,218, Volume: 2.27m
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they have had a pretty horrible run in recent weeks
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and so too
Fidelity China Special Situations PLC (FCSS:LSE): Last: 71.50, down 4 (-5.30%), High: 71.50, Low: 68.65, Volume: 682.62k
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which increasingly looks like
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a top of the market fund launch
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(@Milky: What exactly do you propose? That we represent the FTSE with a happy face or a jaunty tune when it’s rising? Yellow.)
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what was the C share issue done at?
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110P
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I can’t remember now
BE
Hang on – this was January, right?
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£1 apiece I think.
NH
nice work
11:26AM
NH
Moving on
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another big faller today is
Aviva PLC (AV.:LSE): Last: 289.20, down 16.2 (-5.30%), High: 297.70, Low: 288.80, Volume: 4.32m
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apparently of the UK insurers
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this is the one most exposed to the Eurozone
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although they would only be in real trouble
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if Italy went under
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apparently
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Well, that’s comforting.
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Who’s saying this?
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Unicredit
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the note is actually on yields
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Insurers need yield
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and the German 10-year going below 2% isn’t very helpful
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anyway
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the conclusion is
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that the de-rating has gone too far
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and the sector is a buy
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Financial markets have reached the Rubicon, with 10-year yields in
Germany and the US breaching the 2% threshold. We assess the speed
with which insurers, at the epicenter of yield risk, are currently flowing
down the Rubicon stream. The sector has fallen 39% since the year
peak, according to our calculation, not all of which can be attributed to
financial market impacts
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Anomalies do appear to have emerged and
based on our Rubicon earnings analysis, we identify stocks that have
been de-rated the most, beyond their financial market drivers, namely
AEGON, (Buy), AXA (Buy) and Swiss Re (Buy). All three performed
especially badly during the 2008 financial crisis, in our view leading to
an artificially high risk premium during the current crisis, despite
substantial de-risking and capital strengthening at these companies in
the interim.
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and here’s why low interest rates/yields
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are a bad thing
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We summarize the risk to earnings from a sustained fall in interest rates and
structurally lower equity markets:
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Life margins under pressure as running yields move closer to guarantees, with capital
required to support them increasing as a consequence
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Property & casualty price rises required to offset declines in investment income, however,
a customer base possibly unwilling to accept these given the ‘recessionary’ backdrop.
NH

Decline in fee-driven earnings for both mutual fund and unit-linked given the backdrop of
depressed asset markets.
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Earnings support from capital gains in jeopardy. The recent decline in equity markets has
already depleted the pool of unrealized gains on equity holdings, in some cases to subzero
levels.
NH
The risk to earnings from debt impairments, corporate or sovereign.
NH
a fair bit to worry about in there
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actually
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Aviva
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if it wants yield
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should buy its own stock
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prospective of 8.8%
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on my screen
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Well, they’ve cut twice in the past decade
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Hence the assumption that they’ll do the same again.
NH
that would cost the CEO
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he job I reckon
BE
Though I note late Friday that Carlisle has paid up for RAC
BE
That’s £1bn in the hipper.
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(Minus tax.)
BE
Which, I’d have thought, should backstop the divi at least this year.
NH
hmmm
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seems like a knife catching trade to me
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and they rarely end well
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as for Game Group
The Game Group PLC (GMG:LSE): Last: 23.00, down 0.75 (-3.16%), High: 23.59, Low: 22.75, Volume: 12.69k
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I think the dividend decision was made
BE
Same argument as Home Retail.
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They’ll wait for Christmas
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Obviously.
BE
And management’s hope regarding Christmas seems, in my opinion, a tad optimistic.
NH
(yes Shaun they did)
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Home Retail will cut in January and Game will cut in January. I’ll hang my hat on it.
NH
Game going the way of HMV
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on which note
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very interesting piece by Tony Jackson
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in today’s paper
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on disruptive technologies
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Properly defined, a disruptive technology is cheaper than the existing version and initially not as good. For established players, this poses an acute cultural problem.
They got where they are by giving their customers what they wanted at the highest practicable quality. Faced with a cheap and dirty alternative, they may address the challenge, but it goes against the grain to devote resources to it.
Thus, makers of mechanical diggers failed to meet the threat of backhoe loaders and integrated steel producers were caught unawares by mini-mills making steel from scrap.

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right
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let’s move on
11:36AM
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Something macro
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or something
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RAW
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Let’s give it some raw. Need cheering up this morning.
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What do you have?
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New chairman (from 2012) meeting shareholders at their request
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that’s on Aviva
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some talk of a capital raising being discussed
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hence share price weakness
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very RAW that
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also
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oil sector
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talk of a big deal
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about to happen in the sector
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usual names being mentioned
BG Group PLC (BG.:LSE): Last: 1,204, down 38 (-3.06%), High: 1,217, Low: 1,195, Volume: 1.12m
BP PLC (BP.:LSE): Last: 382.70, down 5.8 (-1.49%), High: 388.04, Low: 379.35, Volume: 6.38m
Tullow Oil PLC (TLW:LSE): Last: 1,273, down 36 (-2.75%), High: 1,280, Low: 1,259, Volume: 374.78k
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the rumours
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are more detailed on Tullow
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talk they rebuffed an offer from the Chinese last month
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because the CEO wanted more money
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since then
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we’ve had a couple of big finds of course
BE
Hm.
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my thoughts
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still
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some very good buying of the name
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by all accounts
BE
Can see reasons for China not to be interested in Tullow, not least given the exploration/production balance in the valuation.
BE
Ok – should we push onto macro?
NH
OK
11:41AM
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Right
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lots of news out of Greece at the weekend
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most of it bad
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it’s nicely summed up by Gary Jenkins at Evo Securities
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The Greek government has approved the 2012 draft budget with cuts of €6.6bn.
The budget goes to parliament for approval today ahead of the European finance
ministers’ meeting. The FT reports that Greece’s statistical agency has been
unable to provide figures required to complete the 2012 budget due to strikes by
employees.
NH

The provisional budget figures show a 8.5% deficit/GDP ratio this
year, higher than the 7.6% target and 6.8% for next year, above the 6.5%. The
budget shortfalls could strengthen the push for further private sector participation
under the second bailout package. It also increases the possibility of a delay to the
next tranche of bailout funds, though until the euro are is better prepared for a
Greek default we expect the funds will be paid to avoid the consequences of a
disorderly default.
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talking of which
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some Italian newspaper
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is talking of a 75% haircut
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which must be bonkers
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because the French would never allow it
BE
75%? No chance. That’s wishful thinking.
NH

Business Insider cites Italian newspaper Linkiesta, as saying that
according to an off-the-record comment by a top official at the ECB, the
Troika could require private holders of Greek bonds to accept a 75% haircut
rather than the 21% they were expected to take, according to Italian
newspaper Linkiesta. It states that the matter could be discussed at
today’s Eurogroup meeting, ‘though it probably won’t appear on the official
agenda’.
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no
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it wont’a appear on the official agenda
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ever
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moving on
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we’ve had some decent UK eco news today
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which is worthy of comment
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given that we have a MPC meeting this week
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and some people
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like Michael Saunders at Citi
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expect QE2 to be launched
BE
This is manufacturing, right?
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expanded in September
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after two months of contracting
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The rise in orders was due to a limited pick up in domestic demand as export orders were reported to have contracted at the fastest rate for 28 months
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which isn’t actually that positive
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really
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weaker sterling needed
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more QE
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actually
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this report
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really isn’t that positive at all
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says Howard Archer
NH
The survey unexpectedly indicated that overall manufacturing activity expanded in September after contracting modestly over the previous two months, including a modest rise in both production and new orders. The rise in orders was due to a limited pick up in domestic demand as export orders were reported to have contracted at the fastest rate for 28 months
NH
However, while the manufacturing survey provided a welcome upside surprise, this needs to be put into perspective. While there was a decent rise in output in September itself, orders growth was only marginal with the result that several manufacturers were only able to lift output through eating into backlogs of work – which contracted at the fastest rate for two years.
NH
Furthermore, a third successive fall in manufacturing employment in September adds to the recent weaker news on the labour market front and heightens concern that the private sector will not be able to compensate for increasing job losses in the public sector over the coming months
NH
Despite September’s improvement, the fact remains that the manufacturing sector is finding life much more difficult now compared to early-2011 and much of 2010. Indeed, the PMI still only averaged 50.0 over the third quarter, which points to only flat activity. Domestic demand for manufactured goods is held back by serious headwinds notably including tightening fiscal policy and a major squeeze on consumers, while a slowdown global growth is clearly limiting export orders appreciably. Meanwhile, although they have come off their highs, persistently elevated input costs have been a problem for manufacturers.
NH
At the margin, the better-than-feared manufacturing purchasing managers’ survey may tilt the odds towards the Bank of England holding off from more Quantitative Easing at the conclusion of the October MPC meeting this Thursday. However, much could yet depend on the services purchasing managers’ survey out on Wednesday given the sectors’ dominant role. It still seems very much a question of when –rather than will – the Bank of England enact another £50 billion of Quantitative Easing. We currently favour more QE in November, but would certainly not rule out the MPC acting on Thursday
BE
UBS says much the same.
BE

If today’s survey data is to be believed, the UK manufacturing sector is growing a little faster than the eurozone (Chart 5). In
general though, the two surveys have been moving in tandem but what’s interesting in today’s data is the slowdown in the
eurozone PMI data itself and the simultaneous drop in the manufacturing export component in the UK PMI data. In our view
this suggests that UK manufacturers are likely to face a challenging global environment in the months ahead.
BE

The survey also shows another drop in the prices balances. Although these have eased sharply over the past few months, both
surveys continue to show that prices are rising faster than the long run average. It’s worth noting that manufacturing prices
have a reasonably good correlation with goods price inflation, but they do not correlate well with headline inflation because
services prices tend to act as an offset.
BE

Today’s manufacturing data provides some support to our view that the MPC will hold-off from another round of QE until
November when it has the opportunity to fully explain the decision as part of the quarterly Inflation Report round. The
decision between October and November is close and likely to be swayed by any substantial financial market news in next
couple of days as well as the more important PMI services survey on Wednesday.
NH
hmm
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of course
NH
the MPC meeting
NH
is not the only Central bank datapoint this week
NH
we also have an ECB decision
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Trichet’s final one
NH
EmoticonEmoticon
NH
I wonder
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if he will go out in style
NH
or did we get the valedictory last month?
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I hope he punches someone, Levedev style.
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Wades into the audience and lamps someone from Bloomberg.
NH
EmoticonEmoticon
BE
Or Reuters. Not fussed which wire.
NH
CNBC?
NH
they made him angry last month
BE
It’d be too much to hope that Jim Cramer would be there.
BE
I’d pay good money to see Trichet lamp Cramer. Folding money.
NH
as the readers note
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it’s the Germans he doesn’t like
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Siliva from CNBC
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who got it last month
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anyway
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most economists think we get a cut at the meeting
NH
plus liquidity extensions for the banks
NH
1-year LTRO probably
NH
Here’s RBS
NH
with a little preview
NH

Risks that ECB under delivers – Call change
For clarity, we reiterate our ECB call change made earlier this morning in our Weekly preview: we now expect 25pb cut this Thursday instead of 50bp cut.
NH
The ECB moved to a clear easing bias at the 8 September meeting, stating that the risks to growth were on the downside and risks to inflation were no longer to the upside but broadly balanced. Recent comments from some Governing Council members have suggested that action from the ECB may be forthcoming. While for some Council members the emphasis has been more on non-standard measures (eg. 1yr LTRO and Covered Bond Purchase Programme) than on the standard measures (ie, interest rate), at least a couple of National Central Bank Governors have publicly hinted that a cut in interest rates cannot be excluded (eg, Messrs Nowotny and Coene).
NH
However, we believe the 3% inflation print came at the wrong time and will likely strengthen the case for those on the Council preferring at this stage to focus only on additional non-standard measures to support bank liquidity. In this context, we change our call for the policy rate and we now believe there are 60% chances the ECB will deliver a 25bp cut, from our previous expectations of 60% chances of 50bps (see “Call Change: Recession and rate cut in the euro area”, 22 September), and even though we remain confident that the environment warrants a larger rate cut.
NH
We continue to expect the ECB to announce extended liquidity operations via a new 1yr LTRO. We will review thoroughly the call in the ECB Preview later this week, which will include also our analysis of the pros and cons of resuming the covered bond purchase programme. We continue to expect that if the ECB does not cut rates in October, then they will do so by the November 3rd meeting at the latest. In our report on 22 September we stated that any decision to cut rates in October was unlikely to be unanimous and we feel a 3% inflation print has indeed changed the dynamics within the Council and raises the hurdle yet further to an immediate (and large) cut.
NH
so the inflation flash
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might limit the move to 25bps
NH
but
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we still get the liquidity stuff
11:54AM
BE
Ok – returning to the UK
BE
What else is moving?
Cable and Wireless Worldwide PLC (CW.:LSE): Last: 29.12, down 1.88 (-6.06%), High: 31.04, Low: 28.93, Volume: 1.59m
NH
interesting note out of Merrill today
NH
they have spoken to management
NH
and reckon
NH
a third could be lopped off shareholder funds
NH

Balance sheet under attack from multiple angles
CWW is due to report interim results on 15th November. Following a meeting with
management, we believe the company is likely to give an update on its strategic
review and may also address some of its accounting issues. We believe this could
result in a £620m reduction in CWW’s £1.5bn shareholders funds (deferred tax
£220m, goodwill £250m, pension £150m). PO lowered from 48p to 43p.
NH
target price
NH
still wildly optimistic
NH
but then Merrill
NH
reckons there could be corporate activity
NH

Strategic review – operational separation of business units?
We expect an update on John Pluthero’s review at the interim results. With an
earlier (unsolicited) offer of $500m from Pacnet for its international business we
believe one outcome may be to announce a more formal operational separation of
the currently integrated business into more discrete UK, mid-market and
international units, as a way to highlight potential carve-out value.
NH
ie break up
NH
here’s some more
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on the write downs
NH

Pension deficit could cause financing issues later
Despite CWW making a £25m payment in April, we believe the scheme deficit
has jumped from £91m in March to £243m now, driven by high (47%) equity
allocation, and the falling UK AA corporate bond yield increasing liabilities. We are
concerned that a rising deficit could result in trustees demanding increased share
of bank facilities (£100m of the £300m facility currently “reserved”). This is
important as CWW will need to refinance its £320m convertible in 2014.
NH
ouch 47% equity weighting in the pension fund
NH

Goodwill – we assume a £250m write-off
The profit warnings are likely to lead to a goodwill write-off, in our view. We
assume a £250m write-off, being roughly one-third of the £799m of goodwill.
NH

1. Deferred tax asset write-off – £220m
Deferred tax is recognised on the balance sheet where future profitability is likely
to lead to the timing differences being reversed.
To date, CWW has recognised £220m of deferred tax – i.e., it assumes c.£957m
(being £220m, or 23%) of deferred tax will reverse.
We believe this is a straight forward reduction of tax asset. While this is non-cash,
it does reduce the book value of the balance sheet by £220m.
NH
given three profits warnings in a year
NH
not really that surprising
NH
it can’t use the deferred tax assets
NH
still interesting
BE
That sounds like a shambles.
NH
it is
NH
Pluthero can’t rescue this company
NH
it needs to be put down
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or broken up
BE
They’ve already broken it up.
NH
OK break it up
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into even smaller pieces
NH
this time the need is not strategic
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he needs the cash
BE
Wonder if they have any saleable assets?
BE
Property, I’d imagine.
NH
well
NH
there’s this international business
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that someone apparently bid $500m for
NH
Pactal
BE
Ah. The carrier business? Of course.
BE
Pacnet the bidder.
BE
And there was no little confusion as to the reported $500m valuation.
BE
Which seemed rather high. And by “rather” I mean “improbably”.
12:01PM
BE
Ok – smallcaps I think.
BE
Before the rabble drift off.
BE
And I guess we should note European Goldfields.
European Goldfields Ltd (EGU:LSE): Last: 646.00, up 121 (+23.05%), High: 647.00, Low: 520.81, Volume: 279.10k
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yeah, solved its funding problems
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via an investment from Qatar
BE
Expensive way to do it though.
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they have also sold a near 30% stake
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for a reasonable premium
NH
but I can’t help feeling
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this wasn’t the way it was supposed to end
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I though the end game
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was get license
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get v near production
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and slot it
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to some big Canadian gold company
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for a massive premium
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in the end
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we get a funding deal
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and Qatar with a 20% stake
NH
which makes me wonder if the Greek govt forced this through
NH
they were certainly happy with the publicity
BE
Well, times change. I think plan A — develop and slot — was no longer an option.
BE
And Plan B looks, I guess, the best available compromise.
BE
Though, as I say, not a cheap one.
BE
$600m 7 year loan at interest of 7% above 6 month LIBOR
NH
repayable in eight installments from 2015
BE
Good bit of business, for Qatar.
NH
well
NH
let’s wait till the mines are in production
NH
before making that conclusion
NH
want some comment?
BE
Sure. What doe you have?
NH
Here’s Canaccord
NH

US$600 million facility secured, 9.9% of shares acquired by Qatar Holdings. European Goldfields has announced a US$600 million facility with
Qatar Holdings that should provide sufficient funds to develop its assets in Greece. In addition, Qatar Holdings has acquired 18.2 million shares in the
company from Aktor and Dimitrios Koutras at C$10/share (9.9% of the company’s existing issues capital) with an option to acquire a further 9.3
million shares at C$13/share. Following the transactions, Aktor will hold 12.2% of the company’s shares and Dimitrios Koutras will hold 3%. The
facility, which is secured against the company’s Greek assets, will be structured as a seven-year loan with interest set at LIBOR +7% that will be repayable in
eight installments from 2015, by which time EGU should have commissioned both the Olympias and Skouries mines. Qatar Holdings will also receive 40.4
million warrants at C$9.08/share.
NH

Qatar Holdings could hold up to 28% of EGU’s equity. In aggregate, Qatar Holdings could ultimately hold almost 28% of EGU’s shares assuming that
existing shareholders participate in the US$150 million of unsecured loan notes and associated warrants that they are being offered. This is clearly a very
significant step for EGU, as it should remove the financing risk that has, in our view, weighed upon the company’s share price in recent weeks. Having this
structure on the table could also serve to draw out other parties that may have an interest in acquiring EGU
NH

A good deal in a bad market. Whilst this is not the outcome that we believe the majority of shareholders would have preferred, i.e., a bid for the whole
company, we believe it represents a good outcome in a challenging and uncertain market, especially given the recent volatility in the price of gold and
copper. The financing structure is broadly in line with the overall package that we had previously envisaged and should also allow the company to advance its
exploration portfolio
NH
Price target tweaked lower to $16. We have updated our model to reflect the proposed financing plan and tweaked our price target to $16 from $16.50.
NH
they all say much the same
BE
They do, yes.
12:09PM
NH
Right
NH
a few more small caps to look at
Patsystems PLC (PTS:LSE): Last: 13.07, down 6.68 (-33.82%), High: 14.50, Low: 13.00, Volume: 327.74k
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makes trading systems I believe
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and it’s warned on profits
BE
Bad indicator, that.
BE
Patsystems is one of those companies that’s supposed to have a rock-solid recurring order book.
NH
business focused on deriviatives?
BE
Partly. Risk management too.
NH
as you say not good
NH
At the time of our interim statement we were engaged in discussions with 4 exchanges in Asia and 2 exchanges in the Americas. While these sale discussions had yet to be concluded at the time of the Company’s Interim Statement in July 2011 experience in prior years led the Board to believe that the Exchange sales included in the internal forecasts were achievable by the end of 2011. This is no longer the Board’s view although discussions are continuing.
NH
Two factors in particular are currently affecting the speed of deal closure for exchanges sales; the first is the ability for new exchanges to source, in a timely manner, investment funding in the current financial and business environment and the second is the absence of a catalyst for existing exchanges to commit to major IT expenditure and transformational projects in a climate of continued economic uncertainty when these can be deferred.
NH
on a related topic
Charles Stanley Group PLC (CAY:LSE): Last: 240.00, down 28.38 (-10.57%), High: 242.20, Low: 238.13, Volume: 4.98k
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has also warned on profits
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blaming a weak performance from its securities business
BE
Who’d have thought?
NH
Since the 29th of July global stock markets have continued, in the face of increasingly strong macro economic headwinds, to be volatile. This has had an effect in particular on Charles Stanley Securities with commissions levels and corporate finance fees for the six month period down on the same period last year.
NH
Whilst elements of our operating cost base have been reduced in line with the market volatility and decline, the effect of inflation on our fixed costs means that profits overall are below those of the equivalent period for last year, due in the main to a reduction in revenues in the Securities division.
NH
quite
NH
things are quiet out there
NH
really quiet
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and not just for the likes of Charles Stanley
NH
the big boys are suffering
NH
apparently
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Goldman will only break even in this quarter
NH
according to Nomura
NH

Second Round of Cuts for 3Q11 Estimates Given Sloppy September 

Despite cutting our 3Q11 estimates for the brokers and universal banks by 29% on average back on September 6th, we think 3Q11 has turned out to be tougher than we thought as asset prices continued to face pressure, the trading backdrop remained difficult, and expense flexibility is limited. Given this backdrop we are once again hitting estimates hard and now expect a breakeven quarter for GS and a small core operating loss at MS. Our 3Q11 estimate for GS is now $0.00, down from $1.00, and our estimate for MS goes to $0.25 from $0.31 (this estimate includes roughly $1 billion of positive DVA, so EPS ex DVA is about -$0.10). For the universal banks, our biggest cut is for JPM which goes to $0.90 from $1.16, as the tough trading backdrop has taken a bite out of capital markets revenue and litigation costs will remain elevated (we also reduced our estimates for C and BAC, to $0.75 and $0.15, respectively, from $0.84 and $0.18).

NH

3Q11 Capital Markets Trends Were Tough 

Despite a healthy pick-up in trading volumes in 3Q11, meaningfully wider credit spreads (both high grade and high yield widened by over 20% in the quarter) and significantly lower equity markets (S&P 500 -14%, MSCI-EAFE -20%) likely led to meaningful mark-to-market pain for the brokers and universal banks. In addition, investment banking trends remained soft across the board as the market backdrop likely pushed out the M&A and equity calendars. With recently announced expense initiatives still in early implementation, there is not much management teams can do to insulate the bottom line (but it will be interesting to see where comp shakes out).

NH
anyway
NH
all of which
NH
is predictable
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however
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there’s one broker
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bucking the trend
NH
Numis
NH
and I have been trying to figure out why
NH
Nice bunch round there
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and some good analysts
NH
but…
NH

Against a background of volatile and extremely challenging markets, Numis is pleased to report an improved core performance in the second half of the year. Overall revenues were up 6% on the first half of 2011 and 45% ahead of the second half of 2010. Operating costs remain under control and are little changed from the prior year. 

Combined institutional commission and trading revenues performed well with double digit percentage growth year on year. This is the third successive year of increased revenue from this area.

BE
Hm.
BE
Wasn’t Numis lead manager on the Betfair IPO?
NH
it was
BE
October 2010.
NH
also involved with APR Energy?
NH
whichi thought had gone well
NH
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Not sure about that.
NH
OK
NH
Glencore?
NH
Deal related income recovered strongly in the second half, benefitting from a further 14 equity issuance transactions and increased M&A activity. For the year as a whole, deal related income was broadly in line with the previous year.
NH
creditable performance that
BE
No – that was Liberum who are existing solely on Glencore.
NH
(@Milky – cya)
NH
anyway
NH
hats off to Numis
NH
a decent performance
NH
given the backdrop
BE
Oh! Oh! What about Tony Hayward’s thing?
BE
I’m sure the fees from that were considerable.
NH
Vallares?
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talking of which
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did you see the stock Nat Rothschild granted himself
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from Vallar?
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just for doing a deal
NH
around £130m I believe
BE
Really. How delightful.
NH
Exchange of Founder Shares
NH
misleading headline
NH
but we’ve come to expect nothing less
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from the company
NH
which is now called
Bumi PLC (BUMI:LSE): Last: 850.00, down 13 (-1.51%), High: 866.95, Low: 848.50, Volume: 12.69k
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As described in the prospectus published by the Company on 17 June 2011 (the “Prospectus”), the Founder Shares (which are B ordinary shares in the share capital of Bumi’s subsidiary, Vallar Holding Company Limited) are capable of exchange for either Bumi Shares or Vallar Shares which will in turn be exchanged for Bumi Shares up to and including the last Business Day of the sixth month following the month in which the Acquisition completed. The Acquisition was completed on 8 April 2011.
NH
16,064,608 new Bumi Voting Ordinary Shares will be issued to the holder of the Founder Shares in order to satisfy the Exchange. In addition, as a result of the Exchange, 6,884,832 Bumi Voting Ordinary Shares, to be held by the Bakrie Group, will arise on the conversion of 6,884,832 Bumi Suspended Voting Ordinary Shares in accordance with their terms. Following the Exchange, the Bakrie Group will hold 54,154,285 Bumi Voting Ordinary Shares and 60,442,782 Bumi Suspended Voting Ordinary Shares.
NH
go through all that
NH
and basically it means
NH
Nat gest loads of shares
NH
for doing a deal
BE
Hang on …………
BE
They’re printing new shares
BE
And calling it an “exchange”?
BE
An exchange from nothing to something?
BE
That defies belief.
BE
That’s just being evasive, deliberately or otherwise.
NH
but as OJ says
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it was in the prospectus
NH
so shareholders knew it was coming
NH
still
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breath taking
NH
right we are almost done
NH
let’s end on something bearish
NH
the last note from Bob janjuah
BE
Go on then.
NH
My secular view remains bearish. In or within a year from now I expect global equities to be 25% to 30% lower. My S&P500 target for the low in 2012 remains 800/900, and I think an ‘undershoot’ into the 700s is entirely possible. In this bearish outcome I would expect 10-year bund yields at 1% to 1.25%, 10 year UST yields at 1.25% to 1.5%, and 10-year gilts below 2%. The USD should do well, credit and commodities should not.
NH
bearish
NH
but not as bearish as Albert Ewards
NH
My view over the next month also remains unchanged. I expect stocks to reach their lows for 2011 in this time frame. I still expect the S&P 500 to bottom in the low 1000s in October. And I expect to see 10-year bund yields below 1.5%, 10-year UST yields below 1.75%, and 10-year gilts close to 2%. Beyond October 2011, on a two- to three-month basis into year-end/early 2012, I still see a possibility of a decent counter-trend risk rally. Should this materialise, the S&P500 could move from a low in October of around 1000, up to/towards 1200 by end-December 2011/January 2012.
NH
On a secular basis, investors should remain cautious, and focus on strong balance sheets and strong/robust business models. I expect the next year to be about capital and job preservation. Any counter-trend rally should be tradable but short lived – it should be viewed opportunistically.
BE
And, if you want to complete the trilogy of bearishness …..
BE
The three bears, if you will ………..
BE
Here’s the latest note from Graham Secker at MS.
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Who’s been soliciting opinions.
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On Friday 30th September we held our annual Global Economics & Strategy Morning at our London offices that was attended by over 200 of our
institutional investors. The following pages contain the responses received to our interactive polling questions. The below commentary is our own take
on these answers.
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Sentiment is low, but not excessively so. For some months now we have been arguing that overall investor positioning is not as negative as the
widespread bearish commentary would imply, a view that is arguably supported by our Q&A session. For example, in response to our questions, 57% of
attendees said that they were bullish on risk assets on a 12-month view and 50% chose equities as their preferred asset class over the next year (credit
was second with 24% of the vote).
BE

Base case points to recession for Euro-area, but not US or EM. Our polling suggests that a recession in the Euro area is now broadly a base case
assumption for investors, however there is less pessimism around the US outlook with only around a third of investors anticipating economic contraction
in 2012. When asked about China 2012 GDP growth 45% of clients voted for 7-8% and a further 36% voted for 8-9%.
BE

Pessimistic stance on euro-area debt crisis. Our polling highlighted that investors remain cautious about a resolution of the euro-area debt crisis
with 79% of attendees believing it needs to get worse before it gets better. Two-thirds of clients believe that a Greek default would spark contagion into
other Eurozone countries and/or the banking sector while 49% expect three or more countries to undergo debt restructuring and/or PSI by end 2013
(note this 49% was split 35% voting for 3 countries, 7% voting for 4 countries and 9% voting for 5+ countries). Half of attendees thought that €300bn or
more would need to be raised before investors view the Eurozone banking system as ‘very well capitalised’.
BE

Unsure on EM. Investors do believe that EM will be affected by the slowdown in DM, with export weakness and capital outflows (due to risk reduction)
cited as the most likely catalysts for contagion. When asked outright if they think China is a bubble economy 55% chose yes and 45% chose no. While
63% of voters believe that EM will outperform DM over the next year, the same split against the S&P was broadly 50/50.
BE

Equity preference for EM & US over Europe & Japan. Our polling suggests that equity investors’ regional preferences continue to strongly favour
EM and US over Europe and Japan on a 12-month view. The continued underweight on Europe is understandable at this time, however in the longer
term it contrasts somewhat with other polling responses that suggested Italian bond spreads are likely to be lower in 12 months time (i.e. peripheral
bonds to outperform core bonds).
BE

Our market view: no change to our cautious stance – patience is a key virtue in a bear market. We believe the market has got a bit ahead of
itself over the last week or so in terms of expectations for a credible solution to the euro-area debt crisis. As this optimism dissipates equities are likely
to remain under pressure and we continue to caution against investors pre-emptively positioning for a positive outcome in this regard – in bear markets
equities become less of a discounting mechanism and patience becomes a key virtue for investors. We also maintain our view that equity valuation and
sentiment are likely to overshoot on the downside in this cycle given the higher-than-normal uncertainties that exist with regard to monetary and fiscal
policy. At the sector level we remain overweight defensives (telecoms and healthcare) and underweight cyclicals (capital goods and consumer
discretionary) and financials (banks).
BE
Ok – plenty of reading there.
BE
None of it overly cheery, even if the crowd at the MS buyside are yet to have all the hope beaten out of them.
BE
And, on that note, we should end.
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FTSE’s off lows
BE
Down 78 points at 5050
NH
rally time
NH
thanks rabble
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we are done
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good afternoon
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