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Markets Live transcript 9 Jun 2011

Markets Live chat transcript for the chat ending at 11:25 on 9 Jun 2011. Participants in this chat were: Neil Hume, FT bryce.elder

NH
Hola Rabble
NH
apols for being late
NH
just ploughing through my inbox
NH
Right then
NH
Bryce are you in
NH
we have an hour to fill
NH
with market chit chat
NH
and err analysis
BE
Hang on
BE
FT.com just gave me a reader survey when I tried to pull up Alphaville
BE
I’ll fill that in as we go along, I guess.
NH
did it
BE
“Everything’s brilliant”, in summary.
NH
there are some very strange things happening at the moment
NH
ever since the app appeared
NH
WordPress has been eating posts
NH
the AV banner
NH
take you to JP Morgan
NH
or some watch company with an odd name
NH
and now this
NH
Some Belgians are stting up a website alphavillle.com (watch out 3 l’s or total 4 l’s).
They are writers but one of them got a lot of coverage lately for a tube called ‘sharing the wife’.
I didnot have the pleasure to watch it myself but apparently that was what he did.
If this is not a clever way to attract more visitors (those clever marketing people), may be you should have a look at it.
BE
Aha. Alphavillle.com.
NH
yes
NH
we are also having content scrapped by this site
NH
http://www.21lw.com/dowjonestoday/how-to-tinker-with-bank-risk-weightings/
NH
which as far as we know
NH
has nothing to do with Dow Jones
NH
anyway
BE
We’re also having content scraped by City AM.
BE
Rather less blatantly.
NH
are we
BE
Oh – just a bit of mind melding on a Tracy post yesterday.
BE
Innocent mistake I’m sure.
NH
http://alphavillle.com/ – if anyone was wondering
BE
Though, judging from previous efforts from this mob, it may be NSFW.
BE
Anyway, should be begin?
NH
I think we should
NH
before we do
NH
where’s Milky
Lloyds Banking Group plc (LLOY:LSE): Last: 47.72, down 0.96 (-1.97%), High: 48.71, Low: 47.55, Volume: 108.30m
NH
I want to talk!
BE
Up 2% one day, down 2% next. It’s all over the shop, quite simply.
NH
yeah
NH
like this stock
Desire Petroleum PLC (DES:LSE): Last: 18.50, down 5 (-21.28%), High: 25.25, Low: 18.25, Volume: 11.67m
NH
went up on nothing
NH
coming down on nothing
BE
Noise noise noise.
11:12AM
NH
Wider market then
NH
after yesterday’s sell off
NH
we are pretty much flat
NH
up 1.3 points at 5,810
NH
I’m told that’s around the 200-day moving average
NH
and we seem to keep bouncing off that
NH
so to stocks
NH
and let’s start with Lloyds
NH
another day
NH
and another opp for the CEO to talk down the bank
NH
actually Antonio put the boot in yesterday
NH
at the Treasury hearing
NH
where Bob Diamond told MP’s
NH
that Barclays had been a force for stability
NH
during the credit crisis
BE
And we salute you, Capt’n Bob, for your sterling altruistic efforts.
BE
So what did Antonio say?
NH
hang on
NH
the usual stuff
NH

MORE COMMENTS FROM LLOYDS – Horta-Osorio CEO of Lloyds out with more comments last night stating the bank ‘has substantial problems’ and a strategic review will be completed and results announced at the end of the month… Remember Investor day on the 30th June…

NH
I really am starting to believe he’s a Santander double agent
BE
He’s making absolutely sure we know he’s got a job to do, certainly.
NH
he obviously didn’t enjoy the share price ticking up yesterday
NH
so he decided to bash it
NH
with some more doom and gloom
NH
all good for the LTIP scheme
NH
anyway
NH
as for the weakness in Barclays
NH
I don’t really know
NH
above and beyond Project Caja
NH
which we are all being softened up for
NH
on the note
NH
the Evo analysts that’s been doing a sterling job flagging it up
NH
left yesterday
NH
not sure where’s he off to
NH
but he’s gone
NH
Artuo something or other
BE
Arturo de Frias
BE
Good. Bearish.
NH
and gone
NH
I imagine he will resurface somewhere very soon
NH
as RBS
NH
they are down
Royal Bank of Scotland Group PLC (RBS:LSE): Last: 40.61, down 0.75 (-1.81%), High: 41.55, Low: 40.34, Volume: 18.83m
NH
wasn’t there a Merrill downgrade floating around yesterday?
BE
Yeah – they did cut numbers. on Barclays and Lloyds too.
NH
(Milky – where are you?)
BE
Though it was just taking them closer to consensus really.
BE
Helsby having been a bit too optimistic about NIM before.
BE
Not really anything to scare the horses, the way I read it.
NH
OK
NH
and talking of bullish banks analysts
NH
the UBS duo of Ryan and Critchley
NH
are telling people not to worry about big house prices falls
NH
nothing to worry about apparently
NH
A permanent revolution
There is much to worry about in UK banking, with the regulators’ “permanent revolution” having
the same effect on banks’ share prices that Marx hoped to have on the bourgeoisie. We remain
optimists that the Independent Commission on Banking’s report in September will bring an end
t.o this, but that is as yet unproven
NH
Mortgages not the concern…
We focus on mortgage credit. In the absence of 1973-76-style stagflation, which would be a
much broader problem for the UK, declining UK house prices should not lead to significant
challenges for the banks. For example, we estimate a 10% decline would have only a 9%
i.mpact on our Lloyds earnings forecasts
NH
…five reasons why
First, mortgage books are seasoned: even risky bull-market loans have now made 40+
payments. Second, the housing stock is fully occupied, driving rents up; it is now cheaper to buy
than rent. Third, margins have widened sharply. Fourth, credit performance in a combination of
severe recession and 22% price declines has been robust. Fifth, policy rates will take into
account the structurally elevated spread to customers, meaning ‘normal’ policy rates should be
l.ower than historically
NH
Buy Lloyds and RBS
Based on our expectation that policy makers will shift their focus from the increasingly sterile
‘bank safety’ debate to a broader view of what benefits the economy, we see the UK banks as
robust and well positioned to sharply raise payouts in 2012 and beyond. We have Buy ratings
on Lloyds and RBS.
NH
buy, buy, buy
BE
As for Standard Chartered, as mentioned by GB Krona …..
BE
There’s a Morgan Stanley note around recommending punters switch to HSBC
NH
there is
NH
do you have?
NH
(Yep – TK it is)
BE
Yup. HK and Asia slowing, is the gist.
BE
Our analysis points to risks to the downside for
consensus PBT for STAN – on income (India growth
engine slowing), costs (jaws – income growth less
cost growth – likely to be negative 1H11), and
impairment (a 2012+ story). In HK, while the bank is
doing well, potential HKMA action to control loan
growth remains an overhang. We prefer HSBC (OW)
to STAN.
BE
We think the market has not fully priced in the
headwinds in Asia – we are 6-8% below consensus:
We expect stock performance to be weak in the near
term. The macro in both of STAN’s key geographies
(India, HK) is looking weaker. We expect the key driver
will be lack of growth in India due to lower Wholesale
income, following high inflation and higher rates and
increased competition. System NIMs are declining. HK
is facing its own monetary challenges and showing signs
of overheating, although STAN started well in HK. We
reduce EPS/PT primarily due to lower India / HK
earnings in FY11-13e.
BE
New normal ROE ~12%: Our DuPont analysis from
2004-2013e points to a relatively flat ROA (~1%) for
STAN. While STAN achieved a relatively high ROE
(14-19%) in 2004-08, this was with an average leverage
of 15.8x. With higher capital requirements in the UK, we
now forecast an average leverage of 12.2x, giving an
average ROE for 2011-13 of 12% (15% RoTE).
BE
Switch to HSBC: We see a 1.9x 11e P/TNAV for a 12%
ROE (15% RoTE) as fully priced and see risks to the
downside for consensus. We prefer HSBC and think its
RoTE may overtake STAN’s in the near term.
Standard Chartered PLC (STAN:LSE): Last: 1,548, down 12 (-0.77%), High: 1,567, Low: 1,540, Volume: 1.58m
HSBC Holdings PLC (HSBA:LSE): Last: 620.10, up 3.5 (+0.57%), High: 620.58, Low: 616.10, Volume: 6.43m
NH
OK then. Well and truly bored of banks
NH
let’s move on shall we
11:23AM
NH
Right
NH
someone has been banging on about Betfair for days
NH
who was it?
Betfair Group PLC (BET:LSE): Last: 830.50, up 31 (+3.88%), High: 845.00, Low: 800.00, Volume: 473.74k
NH
well the shares are up today
NH
and the reason is…
NH
a FTSE reweight
NH
buried in the latest annual review
NH
is news the free float goes up from 50% to 100%
NH
not sure why
NH
presumably the locks have come off all those pre-IPO backers
NH
need to try and figure out the buying demand based on this
NH
but it could be punchy
BE
Ok – and what about the smallers?
BE
Henry Boot’s gone in, right?
Henry Boot PLC (BHY:LSE): Last: 136.00, up 7.5 (+5.84%), High: 136.00, Low: 128.50, Volume: 252.36k
NH
yes
NH
and its causing a few market makers to sweat
NH
along with Xaar this went into the All Share
NH
on the liquidity rule
NH
a lot people over look this
NH
and because most trackers follow the All Share
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rather than the FTSE 100 say
NH
it can cause squeezes
NH
that said
NH
I don’t know what Henry Boot actually does
NH
Xaar is ink jet printers
BE
Henry Boot builds things.
NH
like what
BE
Exceptionally ugly shopping centres, mainly.
BE
Priory Park in Hull.
BE
The Mall in Bromley.
NH
EmoticonEmoticon
Xaar PLC (XAR:LSE): Last: 268.00, up 8 (+3.08%), High: 268.00, Low: 259.50, Volume: 84.78k
BE
Henry Boot has a slideshow of its best work on its website
NH
not sure I want my pension fund tracker buying Henry Boot
NH
quite worrying actually
NH
especially given the latest blast of bad news from the high street
11:29AM
BE
Ok then.
BE
So Argos
NH
yeah
NH
dismal
NH
10% fall in like for likes sales in Q1
NH
because the poor aren’t buying electrical goods
NH
sorry I mean the UK’s low income demographic
NH
that news has whacked Dixons and Kesa
Dixons Retail PLC (DXNS:LSE): Last: 17.13, down 2.17 (-11.24%), High: 18.55, Low: 16.65, Volume: 33.12m
Kesa Electricals Plc (KESA:LSE): Last: 139.00, down 3.7 (-2.59%), High: 140.40, Low: 136.40, Volume: 1.98m
NH
because Argos
NH
claims to have retained market share
NH
which gives you a clue how bad things must be in that sector of the market
BE
Really, though, the statement is terrible.
BE
EPS downgrades of the 50% coming through.
NH
wow
BE
And it’s all down to people not buying enough Bush tellies.
NH
and what about the divi
NH
surely that’s going to get splattered
BE
Looks certain
BE
Though I guess that’s the next bit of bad news.
BE
There’s no way this thing’s going to pay 15p
NH
I guess not
BE
Here’s what the FD said on the conference call
BE
And on dividend, you’re right, it is quite early in the year. The dividend decision, clearly, is a debate for the PLC Board, as we’ve
always said, at the end of the year. But they will take into account a number of factors. They’ll take into account the current
earnings profile of the business; but actually, more importantly, the future earnings profile of the business. At that point in time,
you will, around February, March, be looking at the budget for next year. And all those factors, including the level of cash that
we have at the end of the year, will be functions of that.
BE
So would we be comfortable paying the dividend out of cash on the balance sheet? The answer is both yes and no, depending
upon what all the other factors say. If the other factors were looking more positive, and we could see some pickup in consumer
spending and some route to beginning to improve the earnings cover, then I think yes, you could see the possibility of using
your balance sheet. But there are too many moving parts at this early stage of the year to say where that might end up.
NH
interesting
BE
Though the price is already telling you it’s gone.
BE
So what’s been the response from the sellside?
NH
one moment
NH
Oriel
NH
Difficult first quarter will put the shares under
pressure – Sell
NH
First quarter trading at Argos has proved much worse than even the most cautious
expectations with LfL sales declining by a worrying 9.6% against a fear of -6%.
 It seems that consumer electronics are the real culprit, but Argos alleges it has
maintained its Market share which suggests that both Dixons and Kesa will also have
been weak.
NH
The 75 bps decline in gross margins (at Argos) will bring forecasts under pressure when
taken in combination with the unexpected 50 bps decline in gross margins at Homebase.
 Whilst the LfL performance at Homebase is better at 1.6% up, management had been
guiding to an improvement in profitability which must now be open to question.
NH
Overall this is a disappointing result and forecasts are likely to fall from c.£210m at the
pre tax level back to c.£190m for the year to February 2011.
 With Argos continuing to struggle to find it’s place on the high street and margins under
real pressure at Homebase, we stay firmly with our SELL recommendation.
 We expect shares in Dixons (SELL) and Home Retail to come under real pressure.
NH
and something from BES
NH
Home Retail has published a very weak 1Q trading update this morning, with the performance at Argos much weaker than either we or management were expecting and, as a result, management has said that the outcome of the full year is now more difficult to predict. Ahead of today’s statement consensus forecasts were in line with our estimates looking for a 20% yoy decline in PBT to c.£203m but we think downgrades could reach c.15%. If PBT were to fall to around £170m (all else equal) we think the dividend would only be 1x covered on an EPS basis and distributable cashflow would likely to fall to the extent that a large proportion of the dividend would have to be paid by reducing the net cash position. Given the the attractive dividend yield has seemingly supported the shares, this is a concern.
NH
At Argos LFL sales fell by 9.6% versus our estimate of -4.0% taking the two year run rate to nearly -18%. The weakness has been blamed primarily on a larger than expected decline in the electricals market, even though TV sales fell by approximately 10% in last year’s comparable period. Management has said that market share was maintained in electricals, which would imply a negative read-across for Kesa and Dixons, although we believe that Dixons does not contribute to the market share data. That said, there is no escaping the fact that the UK electricals market looks weak. Gross margin at Argos fell by 75bps versus our estimate of -50bps

NH

In terms of readacross for the sector as a whole, the statement isn’t positive although we would note that the Argos weakness seems to be confined to electricals. As also highlighted by New Look yesterday and our own Spend Trend survey work, it seems as though the low income demographic is under most pressure. We continue to think that older, higher income consumers will outperform this year.Home Retail trades on 11.6x our cal.2012 EPS forecast, an unwarranted premium to our favoured stocks of M&S (9.3x) and Kingfisher (10.9x).
NH
Not sure about that
NH
true M&S and Next
NH
both recently made good statements
NH
but surely that was down to the weather
NH
and people buying the summer wardrobe early
NH
hell even Homebase
NH
saw positive like for like sales
NH
the outlook for consumer spending
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and disposable income is dismal
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rising utility bills
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food prices
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petrol prices
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soft housing market
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job cuts
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austerity
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prospect of a rate rise
NH
who on earth is going to splash out?
BE
ROTR reckon the TV upgrade cycle has run out of puff, and they’re probably right. Spending £400 to replace the TV that cost you £800 five years ago is the very definition of inessential.
NH
(Monty – agreed. the internet competition angle would be enough to see Kesa and Dixons through a CC investigation)
BE
One more note on Home, if that’s ok. From JP Morgan, post conference call.
NH
go on
BE
Post the poor Q1, we have substantially downgraded our estimates for
FY12E. Group PBT falls from £216m to £113m, a c.50% reduction to our
EPS (from 19p to 10p). This is below the implicit profit guidance from mgt,
which based on a mid single digit LFL decline in Argos for the FY would
seem to be more around the £150m to £160m PBT level.
BE
The Argos LFL assumption seems ambitious in light of the poor Q1
performance especially when we consider all the Q1 factors such as weather
(positive for outdoor toys and seasonal), extra bank holidays and easier
comps that were working in the company’s favour. Into Q2, comparatives
strengthen by c. 3% as Argos annualises last year’s World Cup and hence
management’s indication of a Q2 performance in line with that of Q1 still
assumes an underlying improvement in run-rate, which we are far from
confident will materialise. Furthermore, a mid single digit LFL decline in
the FY from a starting point of an H1 of -10% demands a substantial
improvement in H2. Our revised FY12E LFL estimate for Argos is -8.7%
(pvs -4.5%), which combined with our previous GM assumption of -50bp
and mgt’s guidance of costs +£30m (at group level) results in our new
FY12E PBT of £113m. Within this, Argos EBIT is £92m (vs £219m FY11
and £376m 2008). This illustrates the extent of the operational gearing in
Argos and in our view highlights the risk to group PBT. No chge to mgt’s
guidance on Homebase of flat FY and GM +50bp, which seems reasonable.
BE
We have also cut our DPS estimate from 14.7p to 10.7p. We expect mgt
will still pay a level dividend at H1 as it will be reluctant to make a call on a
cut until post peak at Christmas, but with the dividend uncovered on our
estimates, we expect the final to be cut. Our new assumption is covered 1x
by earnings but still not by cash. Home’s shares are still only down 5% ytd
despite a c. 12% fall as of 10am this morning. This reflects some
anticipation of an operational gearing upswing in the event of a consumer
recovery. With little sign of such a recovery, adverse structural factors and
the likelihood of a dividend cut, it looks inherently unattractive at 18x PER
our new estimates (based on 179p 10:00am). We believe c. 10x is a more
appropriate rating; 12M TP reduced to reflect that (100p from 165p). U/W.
NH
of course
NH
the sign that the consumer is really dead
NH
will be when people give up their Sky subs
NH
that really will be the end
BE
(Monte:suggestion I had was that Currys wouldn’t really be interested in Comet’s whole store portfolio.)
BE
(If they had the chance to pick up, say, a quarter of the stores they’d be interested.)
BE
(But the portfolio overlap would be too great, and the liabilities too onerous, to consider anything more.)
BE
Ok – before wrapping up on retail.
BE
What of Halfords?
NH
well the statement is reassuring
NH
the stock has been clattered recently
NH
so a lot of bad news is in the price
NH
it’s also buying back stock
NH
and there’s a divi of over 5%
NH
that said
NH
I still don’t believe it’s as defensive as people think
BE
(Oh, hello @milky. Was it a meeting with your parole officer?)
NH
but in spite of the dismal backdrop for retailers
NH
you can still find value in some stocks
BE
I see. Better than feared.
BE
Or at least not as bad as it could be.
BE
So, Emoticon
NH
here’s some comment
NH
Halfords – PBT is slightly ahead of our forecast and up 7.2% year on year. Current year has started positively with retail 9 weeks +0.8% (but with a 1.5% Easter like for like benefit) and 1.2% for Autocentre. Leisure i.e cycling drove the retail pick up. Net debt down to £103.2m from £155.5m. FY divi up 10%. Don’t expect change to numbers but one caveat is that they are talking about further pressure on margins. They continue to buy shares back with £21m of £75m program completed. Looks like the business is turning around for the better to me after a poor period and trading on 10.5x 3/12 with a 5.4% yield look to add on weakness.
NH
Oriel
NH
The main focus of Halfords’ Prelims will be on the current trading statement and it is
ahead of expectation. We suspect that there will have been a bringing forward of
leisure purchases, and whilst we won’t change our fundamental stance, the shares will
probably enjoy the statement.
 Management pre-announced PBT a couple of months ago so £125.6m was not a
surprise.
 A dividend of 22p was also in line with hopes.
NH
In the last 9 weeks LFL has picked up. It now stands (ex Easter) at -0.7%, and
although the comparative was straightforward, that’s a decent bounce back from H2′s
lows.
 The main eye-catcher was the leisure category (+11% LFL). It is clear that bike sales
have done well, although we suspect that the good weather may have dragged
forward some purchases. Thus we won’t change forecasts (we are towards the top of
the range on £107.5m next year).
 We still have our concerns over the underlying business here and fear that continued
superstore pressure, the need to put more staff in store and the potential impact of
MOT regulation changes could weigh.
 We stick with our REDUCE stance, although it’s hard to be churlish about current
trading today.
NH
and finally Seymour Pierce
NH
Having given detailed guidance at its Q4 trading update and pre-warned on an exceptional of £7.5 due to Focus lease liabilities, Halfords FY results contain no surprises. Management reported a 7.2% increase in FY11E PBT to £125.6m (SPL forecast £125.1m), EPS 40.7p (+10.6%) and DPS 22p (+10%). This was driven by gross margin (+16bp) and cost cutting as LFL sales were down 5.5% (Easter timing negatively impacted by 0.6%). Net debt stood at £103.2m at year end, down by £52.3m and compared with our forecast of £106m.

Current trading for the 9 weeks to 3 June benefited from the exceptionally warm weather and number of Bank Holidays. Retail LFL sales were up 0.8% with the timing of Easter benefiting performance by 1.5% according to management and Autocentre LFL sales were up 1.2% helped by the new brand advertising campaign. Management has completed £20.7m of its £75m proposed share buy-back programme to date.

NH
Despite the slightly stronger start to the year, we are maintaining our FY12E PBT of £106m, EPS 38.9p, DPS 22p compared to consensus forecast PBT of £110m as we believe management will need to put extra cost back into the business and management has already warned on retail gross margin pressure. The valuation is not particularly demanding, with the shares trading on a FY12E PE of 10.2x and supported by an 5.5% yield which is secure we believe. However, the share price will continued to be driven by the performance of its retail business which we do not expect to return to profit growth until 2013.
NH
sorry to give you so many notes
NH
but Brass Monkey was asking for us to cover it
NH
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11:48AM
BE
Question from the right on Imperial Tobacco
Imperial Tobacco Group PLC (IMT:LSE): Last: 2,098, down 41 (-1.92%), High: 2,142, Low: 2,092, Volume: 1.35m
BE
I’m afaid it’s Spain again
NH
Philip Morris?
BE
Yup.
BE
MPI’s cut all its prices again.
BE
In another attempt to grab market share.
BE
You’ll remember the stooshie last month when PMI raised prices, then cut them again.
BE
To challenge BAT, which was undercutting in what is a very small market for them.
BE
Whereas for Imperial it’s a rather important one.
BE
UBS gives a good summary of the latest crossfire.
BE
PMI have reduced their prices of all their major Spanish cigarette brands yet again.
This follows on from the price reductions announced on the 28th May. The price of
Marlboro has been reduced from €4 to €3.85 per 20, Chesterfield from €3.70 to
€3.50 per 20 and L&M from €3.40 to €3.30 per 20.
NH
go on
BE
It appears that PMI remains determined to price L&M within the lowest price
category, and the latest move is a response to BAT who cut the price of Pall Mall
from €3.40 to €3.30 per 20 on the 2nd June. PMI appears to have moved
Chesterfield to be priced in line with Winston at €3.50 per 20. BAT and JTI will
argue that Pall Mall and Winston have long sold at a discount to L&M and
Chesterfield respectively.
BE
Were Imperial to reduce the price of all its brands by €0.10 per 20, including
Fortuna and Nobel from €3.50 to €3.40 per 20, and Ducados Rubios and JPS from
€3.40 to €3.30 per 20, then we estimate this would have an annualised impact on
net sales of c£65m and impact on EBITDA of £35m-£40m. The large impact on
the net sales is because there is a minimum duty rate in Spain, so the reduction of
the retail price below €3.65 per 20 is mostly borne by the manufacturer. This (and
31st May price reductions) are not reflected in our current FY’12 estimates.
NH
(@Outlaw – FTSE reweight driving it higher. 100% free float now)
NH
thanks for that
NH
Zoomy wants to talk miners
NH
shall we move on?
NH
or is there something more to say on Imperial?
NH
I think Morgan Stanley are positive
BE
Are they? I didn’t see that.
NH
We like global Tobacco for its pricing power, limited input cost pressures vs. other consumer
staples categories, cost savings potential, and options for shareholder-friendly use of its high
cash generation. In Europe, we prefer IMT (OW) over BAT (EW) for its discounted valuation on
overly pessimistic relative earnings growth potential. In the US our top pick is OW-rated PM as
cost cutting has contributed greatly to the company’s peer-leading earnings growth profile and
NH
further optimisation should support this trend. We remain OW on JT in Japan as domestic and
international cost bases both present cost reduction opportunities, in our view, and we believe JT
should be able to continue expanding profits, mainly as it increases pricing in key EU markets.
11:53AM
NH
Mining
NH
I guess we should start with ENRC:LSE
Eurasian Natural Resources Corp PLC (ENRC:LSE): Last: 803.00, no change, High: 804.50, Low: 795.00, Volume: 1.01m
Eurasian Natural Resources Corp PLC (ENRC:LSE): Last: 803.50, up 0.5 (+0.06%), High: 804.50, Low: 795.00, Volume: 1.01m
NH
what a mess
NH
The three Kazakh oligarchs and the Kaxakh government
NH
just fire anyone
NH
who stands in their way
NH
ie a non executive
NH
who is concerned about good corporate governance
BE
Well, indeed.
BE
Though the problem’s been there for some time.
BE
It’s run as a private company.
NH
public/private company
NH
I’m not sure how this ends
NH
I guess the oligarchs might buy it
NH
after all
NH
do they really want or need all of this
BE
A company that’s disposed of two CEOs, One CFO, one chairman and four Noddies since listing in December 2007.
NH
Emoticon
BE
That must be some kind of record.
NH
it’s operational performance is pretty dismal
NH
it’s made a massively controversial deal in the DRC
NH
i think they should delist
NH
or so does JPMorgan
NH
Could the founders consider taking the business private? We think it not
inconceivable given the listed minority is worth only $3.5bn, ENRC is carrying very low gearing and the constraints of a UK main board listing are clearly frustrating the founder shareholders. This could present meaningful upside risk to our recommendation but in our view is probably still an ‘in extremis’ option vs redomiciling to a ‘lighter-touch’ regime.
NH
No need to change view yet, remain Underweight: While it is tempting to wonder how much worse things can get, we believe consensus numbers need to decline further, to a level closer to our estimate which sits 14% below (Bloomberg) consensus. With the stock still trading at a premium to Rio, Anglo and BHP on 2011E PER on our numbers, we feel there is no valuation case yet while the company continues to suffer from minimal volume growth for the next two years and high exposure to ferrochrome which remains in medium-term oversupply
NH
and here’s Liberum with some more
NH
 The aftermath of the ENRC board debacle features heavily in the press today with The Times publishing a Valedictory letter from one of the two ousted NEDs Ken Olisa. It is clear the company’s credibility on governance is at an all time low – a shame given that its assets and growth plans are actually quite attractive. At the heart of the problem seems to be the idea that the oligarch shareholders who are not represented on the board very much meddle in the running of the company.
NH
 With investors unable to have any visibility on the workings of this company now, we can only speculate as to why the key shareholders have ‘turned’ on the minority shareholders representatives. The governance structure of the company is now in shreds and the long term viability of ENRC as a listed entity must be called into question. Perhaps the nuclear option of kicking out the ‘turbulent’ NEDs is a pre-cursor to some take-private transaction.
NH
 ENRC’s shares are down 26% YTD (14% underperformance relative to the sector) putting it on a current year PER of 6.8x. This rates it slightly cheap relative to its more cyclically stretched diversified peers. For an acquiror, this valuation would be a bargain. Frankly we are unsure what to do with the shares. To our mind the likelihood of a corporate transaction/break up seems to be rising, so selling now could be a mistake.
NH
an honest note that
Eurasian Natural Resources Corp PLC (ENRC:LSE): Last: 801.50, down 1.5 (-0.19%), High: 804.50, Low: 795.00, Volume: 1.06m
BE
No wonder Kaz is (it has been rumoured) looking for someone to take its stake in this thing.
NH
indeed
BE
But, apart from ENRC itself, who would?
NH
we have no visibility on how this company is run
NH
if the oligarchs decide they want to do something
NH
like buy in the DRC
NH
they do it
NH
anyway
NH
we have a copy of the letter
NH
referred to in the Liberum note
NH
it’s from one of the Noddies
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called Ken Olisa
NH
he works for Restoration Partners
NH
and recently penned a letter to the FT telling us
NH
how our sniping was destroying Britain
NH
anyway
NH
here’s some of the letter
NH
Dear colleagues
Given today’s seismic events I thought that I would write to you with a valedictory analysis of my
position.
When Sir David Cooksey invited me to join the board of ENRC prior to our IPO I accepted
enthusiastically.
My enthusiasm was rooted in a belief that for the City to retain its leadership position in the world’s
capital markets we must do everything possible to make the UK’s particular approach to liquidity
and governance attractive to companies from abroad.
Selfishly I also relished the opportunity to learn about an exciting industry and an intriguing country
– Kazakhstan.
From the very beginning it became apparent that the journey on which the company was embarked
was not going to be a smooth one. Although the founding shareholders had signed Representation
Agreements committing them to support an independent board it soon became obvious that the
original owners’ informal historical links with Directors and senior management meant that their
influence would be ever present.
This is not necessarily a problem – there are many listed companies whose boards include major
shareholders and where the tension between being a private company and a public company is
significant. In our case however, it has become more and more apparent that the founders’
influence was less transparent than is ideal; manifesting itself, for example, in the Chairman
frequently playing the part of founders’ messenger – not always accurately – rather than as leader of
an independent board.
NH
In my various discussions with Mr Machkevich and Mr Chodiev I explained my view that for
companies such as ENRC, there are only two, mutually exclusive governance models – either the
founding shareholders should take a big step back and let the board of ENRC govern the company
independently, or they should take a big step forward and play a hands on role in the strategic and
operational detail of the business which they created.
Neither is the right answer per se, but a hybrid is definitely the wrong one. If ENRC is to change the
commitments that we made at IPO and to adopt the second option – ie become a private company
with a public listing – it must be done openly. The FSA needs to be consulted, the Representation
Agreements need to be renegotiated and the many relationships between the Directors and the
founders need to be entirely transparent and the market needs to be informed.
Whilst not really doubting the outcome, I had rather hoped that we would determine privately
which option was preferred by the principal shareholders – the founders, Kazakhmys and the
Kazakhstan government – and then effect an orderly restructuring of the board to achieve the
consensus. As you know I had no interest in remaining once the change was effected if it were the
second option and was happy to step down as part of that orderly process.
My dismissal alongside that of Sir Richard is a rather more brutal way of signalling the principal
shareholders’ decision to the market than I had in mind – more Soviet than City – made more so
because it was in absolute contravention of the assurances given last week.
NH
More Soviet than City
NH
great line that
NH
anyway
NH
we have a BoE non decision to talk about
12:01PM
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UNCHANGED
BE
And still £200bn in the kitty
NH
RTRS-BANK OF ENGLAND HOLDS KEY UK INTEREST RATE AT 0.5 PCT (REUTERS POLL 0.5 PCT)
12:00 09Jun11 RTRS-BOE MAKES NO CHANGE TO QUANTITATIVE EASING TOTAL OF 200 BLN STG (REUTERS POLL 200 BLN STG)
12:00 09Jun11 RTRS-BOE MAKES NO STATEMENT ON MONETARY POLICY ALONGSIDE JUNE RATE DECISION

12:03PM
NH
Misys
Strange software outfit, seemingly controlled by US investor ValueAct Capital.
NH
someone was asking about Misys
Misys PLC (MSY:LSE): Last: 388.00, no change, High: 390.50, Low: 381.00, Volume: 1.20m
NH
shareholder support above 400p
NH
I’m sure ValueAct would take it
NH
not sure about Schroders
NH
not sure if that’s an Andy Brough shareholding or not
BE
Why should anyone buy at 388p based on the unconfirmed potential of a bid at 400p?
BE
Not fancying that risk-reward.
BE
So much in the price here.
BE
And stepping forward to sum up the argument today is David Toms from Numis
NH
I like David
NH
in spite of his positive recommendation on Autonomy
NH
what’s he saying
BE
Misys shares have been strong in recent weeks led, we suspect, largely as a result
of ongoing bid speculation. This has driven the shares to a level where we believe
that any bidder would struggle to pay a significant premium. On 18x CY12
EV:NOPAT, Misys now trades at a significant premium to peers such as Temenos
(16x) and Fiserv (15.4x) and in our view such a rating is well ahead of the value of a
company that is struggling to deliver 5% growth. Misys has performed well as a
trader of assets and we think it would be dangerous to bet against this performance
continuing. However, as an operating entity we think the jury remains out. Absent a
takeover we believe the shares look overvalued albeit our elevated 350p TP (was
310p) means we remain a Hold.
BE
Q3 update showed decent performance. In April, Misys reported a robust Q3,
confounding our concerns about downside risk driven by geopolitical turmoil albeit
benefiting from some slipped orders in H1. However, overall we expect FY11 (May y/e)
performance will be, at best, at the bottom of management’s 5-8% growth guidance – a
poor performance in a banking recovery in our view.
BE
Shares keep going up… The performance of Misys’s shares is in the ‘somebody
knows something’ category. This has driven the rating up to 18x CY12 EV:NOPAT
(close to a Fidessa/Autonomy/AVEVA-esq 20x for what are, in our view, vastly better
businesses). This is also a substantial premium to Temenos’s 16x CY12 EV:NOPAT
(based on consensus) and Fiserv’s 15.4x. It also represents c. 12x EV:EBITDA which
we think is a challenging level for private equity.
BE
Risk for investors? Given Misys has just paid <15x EV:NOPAT for Sophis in what we
suspect was a very broad auction process, and given that Sophis represents around a
third of the Group’s NOPAT, this mitigates against a bid for the whole of Misys in our
view. We see a risk that corporate action could involve just a sale of the banking
business which would possibly be dilutive (it is hard to justify a premium for the
long-troubled banking division) and leave the shares looking exposed.
BE
Target price up. The sector has performed well since we last wrote, and applying our
previous 10% premium (to reflect takeout potential) moves our target price up to 350p
(was 310p). Although the shares remain a Hold they feel very fully valued.
NH
sensible stuff
BE
Yeah – valuation work’s very good.
BE
18 times EV:NOPAT for Misys seems absurd when Temenos is on 16, given Temenos has all the market share.
NH
not bad for an Autonomy apologist
NH
EmoticonEmoticon
12:08PM
NH
To small cap corner
NH
Shovel is asking about Lookers
NH
the Jack Petchey consortium now have three weeks to go through the books
NH
after making an indicative offer of 80p a share
NH
presumably that will be enough
NH
to secure a deal
NH
although Panmure says not
NH
We learnt yesterday that the consortium bidding for Lookers have offered 80p
in cash, which equates to a 2011E P/E of 12.2x falling to 11.1x with an
EV/EBITDA of 6.0x falling to 5.3x. The deadline on the offer period has now
been extended out to 29 June, with the consortium now having access to the
books. While this is a starting point, we suspect the consortium would have
to offer more to secure the business given valuations of previous transactions
in this space, and given what management plans to deliver in the future. We
maintain a Hold recommendation on the basis we believe there is still a risk
this may not materialise, but watch for further developments with interest.
NH
Will the deal happen? Its clear that the consortium is serious on making an offer, with
the due diligence period now underway. We believe 80p is a good starting point, but the
consortium will probably have to bid more to secure the business. It will also be
interesting to see the reaction of the manufacturers to this transaction, as this will be key
given the rule changes on block exemption.
NH
I guess Tony Brammel
NH
will be key here
NH
he owns 22%
NH
and could be a pain
NH
is he still on the board?
BE
Non-exec?
BE
I think.
NH
yeah
NH
noody
NH
what other small cap news have we
NH
yes I know
NH
Bowleven
NH
good update from them
Bowleven PLC (BLVN:LSE): Last: 326.00, up 34.25 (+11.74%), High: 331.48, Low: 310.50, Volume: 4.99m
NH
oil in Cameroon
NH
the sector watcher is very impressed
NH
Good news for BLVN – test results from the Sapele-1 sidetrack well offshore Cameroon look very positive with a flowrate of 3,100 boe/d, around 2/3 of which is oil, the remainder gas. The initial well result in April had looked disappointing with less net oil pay in the Omicron objectives (23 metres) than perhaps the market had been hoping for, hence today’s news is a big relief. Subsequent to the initial Sapele-1 result, the Sapele-2 well had come in with a strong result (35 metres of net pay), with testing of this well now ongoing and a result expected within 2-3 weeks
NH
. It appears that the Sapele reservoir is quite complex due to its stratigraphic nature, hence the group is unwilling to provide reserves estimates for the time being, however the successful flow-test is a clear positive. We have a NAV for BLVN of 400p/share, i.e. 37% above the current share price, but the reality is the upside is far greater. Sapele is still at an early stage of appraisal, and the group’s other discoveries, IE and IF, will also be appraised this year. The BLVN share price has drifted down 10% in the past couple of weeks and I’d expect to see that being reversed today, and I’d continue buying it even after the bounce.
NH
he’s also been banging about Petroneft
NH
another stock
NH
that’s interests a few of you
NH
We are reducing our NAV-derived target price on PTR by 6% from 93p to 87p/share although we retain our Buy recommendation, given the current price of only 50p/share. PTR disappointed the market on Tuesday with the news that production from its Lineynoye oilfield in Siberia was struggling to meet earlier expectations, and the shares have fallen 18% since despite the fact that the group also announced some positive news on the exploration front. To reflect the lower production rates, we’ve cut our NAV, but I certainly wouldn’t give up on the stock. Apart from anything else, the group has enormous exploration upside, and has a further 4 wells to drill this year targeting close to 100m barrels net, or double the current reserves base. I said on Tuesday I’d be a buyer on weakness and I’d reiterate that today
NH
anything small cap from you Bryce?
BE
Not much
BE
I guess we should note, if only for posterity, the official flotation of HaywardCo.
NH
oh yes
BE
Announcement of intention to raise £1 billion and list on the London Stock Exchange’s Main Market
BE
Vallares intends to raise £1 billion to acquire or establish a major company, business or asset that has significant operations in the resources sector
BE
The Company intends to focus on the oil and gas industry
NH
Ah yes Vallares
NH
it’s really another Rothschild acquisition vehicle
NH
like Vallar
BE
Vallares is advised by the Founders, being Nathaniel Rothschild, Tony Hayward, Tom Daniel and Julian Metherell.
Valirx PLC (VAL:LSE): Last: 0.665, down 0.01 (-1.48%), Volume: 809.55k
NH
Metherell is the ex Goldman hot shot
NH
£1bn is a lot of wonga
NH
I wonder what they are going to buy?
The next supermajor, potentially sitting on 60bn barrels of oil in Kurdistan. Loved by muppets across the globe.
Gulf Keystone Petroleum Ltd (GKP:LSE): Last: 148.00, down 3.5 (-2.31%), High: 154.00, Low: 147.25, Volume: 670.70k
Xcite Energy Ltd (XEL:LSE): Last: 156.50, down 1 (-0.63%), High: 161.00, Low: 153.55, Volume: 638.05k
EnCore Oil PLC (EO.:LSE): Last: 63.50, up 1 (+1.60%), High: 64.25, Low: 61.75, Volume: 642.81k
NH
or
Chariot Oil and Gas Ltd (CHAR:LSE): Last: 218.00, no change, High: 220.00, Low: 217.75, Volume: 68.97k
NH
even
Bahamas Petroleum Company PLC (BPC:LSE): Last: 18.25, up 0.25 (+1.39%), High: 18.50, Low: 17.25, Volume: 1.64m
NH
so many top quality companies to chose from
BE
All the kind of companies where a smooth operator such as Tony Hayward could make a real difference, I’m sure.
BE
Here, for the sake of it, is the target areas.
BE
The Company intends to focus primarily on emerging and under-developed geographic regions where the Founders collectively have prior knowledge and experience. These include Russia, the CIS region, the Middle East, Africa, Asia and Latin America. However, the Company will not exclude other geographic regions where an opportunity presents an appropriate investment proposition.
BE
So — “anything”.
NH
that’s most of the world
NH
apart from the North Sea
BE
Though proven and established reserves only, according to the Flak.
NH
Shall I say it
BE
Which rules out a few we could mention.
NH
or do you want to
BE
Let’s not. No point in prodding the beehive.
NH
presumably the Gulf of Mexico is out as well
BE
Well, for PR reasons you have to think it is.
BE
Some people seem to think Indonesia would be interesting.
BE
Though what they’re basing that on, I don’t know.
BE
And we’re certainly not speaking UK listed.
NH
oh and I had some read across on that other oil that’s listing
NH
Ophir
NH
I must say very brave to list in London
NH
given the curse
NH
but they are
NH
looking to raise up to $400m
NH
gas discoveries in Tanzania
NH
where BG has interests
NH
as does Cove
Cove Energy PLC (COV:LSE): Last: 80.25, up 1 (+1.26%), High: 80.50, Low: 79.75, Volume: 233.60k
NH
BG (BUY, TP 1,475p) – BUY on readacross from Ophir listing
– BG’s partner in its Tanzania acreage, Ophir, has this morning announced its intention to float on the London stock exchange
– BG and Ophir have so far made 3 gas discoveries offshore Tanzania (100% success rate) – but have not announced details on size of discoveries, or the timing of any development plans
– We expect BG and Ophir to try and prove up sufficient volumes for an LNG facility, given its favourable location in East Africa for access to Asian gas markets
– We believe that Tanzania could provide the next leg of NAV upgrades to BG, and while we would be cautious of taking any valuation read-across from Ophir at 100% face value, the co.’s marketing materials could prove very +ve for BG’s valuation…BUY
BE
To be fair to them, O&G doesn’t seem to suffer quite the same curse as gold miners, budget airlines, betting exchanges, commodity traders, whitboard makers, etc. etc. etc.
NH
you wait
NH
the curse will strike
12:22PM
BE
Ok – we done?
NH
almost
NH
quick comment on African Barrick
NH
while we are talking about Tanzania
NH
From Collins Stewart
African Barrick Gold PLC (ABG:LSE): Last: 422.10, up 7.1 (+1.71%), High: 433.90, Low: 410.16, Volume: 682.35k
NH
Storm in a teacup: The stock was down sharply yesterday as the Tanzania’s
Economic Planning Commission recommended the country to bring in a mining
‘super tax’ similar to Australia. The story ended up being overblown, as the 2011
budget speech delivered later in the day by Tanzanian finance minister did not
mention anything on the mining tax. We expect the stock to bounce back sharply
today.
NH
Tax terms protected by MDA’s: Aftican Barrick operations have “standstill”
agreements in place around on fiscal terms around royalty and tax which have been
tested in court last year when the government was defeated in an attempt to raise
fuel excise duties. Bulyanhulu agreement is valid till 2025, Buzwagi till 2022, whilst
North Mara expires in September 2011.
NH
Hugely profitable business: Despite all the negative sentiment on the stock, African
Barrick remains a big cash cow with a great balance sheet. The company currently
has $401m in the bank and is set to generate $157m in free cash flow according to
our model. It is currently trading at 0.8x P/NAV versus London peer group of 1.1x
and a global average of 1.3x. African Barrick’s assets are a stand out in the space
due to their high grade and long life. The company remains hugely undervalued
based on fundamentals, however needs to produce several quarters of good news
flow for the faith of investors to remain.
NH
and that’s it I believe
NH
thanks for joining us today
NH
lots of comments which is good
BE
Yup – thanks for your time and attention.
BE
Nice to see both Milky and Zoomy in the same (virtual) room.
NH
yeah
BE
As I had my doubts they were two different people.
NH
the old and the new
NH
AV plaything
BE
So until tomorrow, have a good one.
NH
bye
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