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Markets Live transcript 17 May 2011

Markets Live chat transcript for the chat ending at 11:33 on 17 May 2011. Participants in this chat were: bryce.elder Tony Tassell

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Good morning
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And welcome to Markets Live
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FT Alphaville’s daily wander around all things stock
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And beyond
TT
good morning…an honour to be be here standing in for Neil
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(@CFA: didn’t make the cut in the MSCI rejig. We’ll come to that later, I suspect.)
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Neil is off for a week doing his football coaching badges
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one day welham gardens under sevens, next arsenal
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he only has two or three more levels to go to qualify in the coaching tests
BE
Wayward spelling of Welwyn, Tony.
TT
yes..apologies..never actually been there
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And I’m not entirely sure he wanted the rabble to know he’s becoming a qualified football coach.
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And/or referee.
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Still, cat out of the bag now, eh?
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Whatever you do, don’t mention it when he gets back.
TT
it might explain a few things about his approach to life in general
TT
the tendency to issue red and yellow cards etc
TT
anyway we should move on
BE
Indeed.
BE
So where do we cant to kick off?
TT
we should spare thought for DSK?
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if you have to admire to the egalitarianism of the yanks
TT
rough justice in the treatment of suspects but at least equal rough justice
TT
as many on twitter have pointed out, the many who organised the bailouts could not bail himself out
TT
still rikers is a pretty rough place it seems…
TT

http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-deadliest-prisons-world.php

Rikers Island, New York – Stabbings, beatings and brutal treatment from prison guards characterize this American prison. Filled primarily with offenders who are visible minorities, jailed on drug offenses, the prison is a hotbed of violence and aggression. In 2007, prisoner Charles Afflic was beaten senseless with a billy club by a prison official, who hit him repeatedly from behind: his injuries were so severe they necessitated brain surgery. 6 inmates committed suicide, hanging themselves with bedsheets in their cells, during the first six months of 2003 alone. Rikers has a reputation for its cruel treatment of mentally ill prisoners, who often turn to suicide in lieu of treatment and understanding.

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Yup. “The notorious” Rikers prison, according to all media.
BE
Is DSK a “visible minority”? He’s French, I guess.
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the story has absolutely gripped this newsroom..itis not often this kind of thing intrudes into the lives of people who make the front pages of the ft
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imogen thomas excepted
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Yup – and, for the first time in the FT’s long and illustrious history, we have a Big Brother contestant on the front page.
BE
A watershed moment in the dumbing up of the press.
TT
BTW i thought itwas a very curious move by justice eady to air the blackmail allegations
TT
Byrce..now now..we have had sienna miller as well on the front page
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True.
TT
sorry shouldn’t we be doing some work..talking about the market…
BE
I guess so.
TT
just on dsk though..doesnt the name remind you of the brands that you used to make mixtapes on for your girlfiriends
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dsk..does amazing things to your system
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(@Itzman: yellow. We’re not tolerating that kind of thing, even couched in quote marks.)
TT
i assume your mixtapes byrce were pretty moody…
11:12AM
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ok what is the market doing Bryce
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Well, I’m glad you (finally) asked.
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FTSE is unmoved.
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Up 0.49 points
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Or less than 0.01%
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5924.22.
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(lemmy..classic)
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We can all go home
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We’ve found the right price for everything.
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No reason to keep trading.
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Wind up early.
TT
efficient markets
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and then governments have to go and spoil it all with bailouts and deficit crises
BE
Well, I guess we’ll get to the latest Eurofudge in a moment
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Because the ROTR seem to want to talk about MSCI reshuffles
TT
can we talk about mix tapes again..
BE
No – no – you’re living in the past. It’s all “link to my Soundcloud” these days.
TT
(itzman..by the way we seem to be getting a belgian govt today…after 13 months)
BE
So – MSCI rejig came out last night.
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And the big news is that IMI didn’t make it
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It was on the cusp
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And the result is this
IMI PLC (IMI:LSE): Last: 1,027, down 45 (-4.20%), High: 1,044, Low: 980.00, Volume: 1.88m
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never quite worked out how MSCI decidesthese things..never the most transparent process
BE
Yes, that’s the issue.
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It’s not.
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Which makes it rather hard to predict.
TT
we should declare we work at a company that part own the FTSE indices..but they are much more predictable
BE
Yup – nice and clean 90-110 split on market cap. Easy to understand.
BE
So the only one in the UK to go in was Wood Group
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…. whose ticker I’ve forgotten.
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(magpie..i used to think every good mixtape should have at least one price buster song, funky nassau, some marvin & tammi and at least two obscure van morrison songs)
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Am told it’s 13 days demand, if you include proxy trackers.
TT
Byrce – you cant see the Wood for the trees
BE
Hm. Moving swiftly on.
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Heading out of the MSCI ….
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C&W Worldwide
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(In spite of all those conveniently timed bid rumours last week.)
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Thomas Cook
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And FirstGroup
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do you know how many insitutions actually track the msci europe?
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Yup. Along with poor old Bank of Ireland.
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12/13 days of selling pressure for all of those
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Except Bank of Ireland, on 33 days.
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Though you have to assume that’s already in the price.
BE
Right – that’s quite enough technical factors.
11:21AM
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ok inflation time again
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time for mervyn to get the pen out again
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4.5%!
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Airfares, apparently.
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Along with booze, fags and petrol.
TT
that seems to chime with my purchases, fags excepted
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This was well above expected.
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Top of the range was 4.3%
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here is the CEBR in reaction
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The Bank of England will undoubtedly face renewed criticism for being too complacent over the issue of inflation, with ongoing concerns about the Bank losing credibility over its commitment to a 2.0% central target for CPI annual growth. May’s Inflation Report from the Bank warned that CPI inflation could rise to as high as 5.0% later this year on the back of rising utilities prices.

On the other hand, the Bank insists that there is a compelling case for inflation falling back towards target from 2012. The VAT rises of the past two years have pushed up price growth in 2010 and 2011, while the global commodity price rally in the second half of 2010 has also led to higher goods prices in the UK. By 2012, the effect of VAT on prices will have dropped out of the annual rate of inflation, and there are now early signs of some stabilisation in global commodity markets.

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We think this points to a sharp drop in inflation come early 2012, providing a rationale for the Bank to hold its nerve and keep interest rates on hold until the UK economic recovery becomes more robust and certain. With Andrew Sentance – the chief proponent of a rate rise – no longer on the Monetary Policy Committee, we think there is unlikely to be any movement in the base rate until November at the earliest.
BE
“We think this points to a sharp drop in inflation come early 2012″ … they mean when it annualises?
TT
and some more from Chris Crowe at Barcap…always like aliteration in an analyst’s name
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PI inflation increased to 4.5% y/y in April, significantly above expectations (consensus 4.1%, BarCap 4.2%, last 4.0%). Core inflation was 3.7%, above consensus expectations of an unchanged 3.2%. However, RPI inflation was in line with expectations, falling to 5.2% from 5.3% (BarCap 5.3%).

The major surprise in the CPI numbers came from air transport, where prices increased by 29.0% m/m. As a result, travel services as a whole showed m/m inflation of 5.2%, compared to our forecast of 0.5%, contributing an additional 0.3pp to m/m inflation overall. Air fares are one of the most volatile components of the CPI (despite being included in the core measure), and the higher-than-expected increase in prices is likely to have been driven largely by the impact of the timing of Easter. The other area where prices increased significantly was alcoholic beverages and tobacco, where duty increases announced at the budget pushed prices up by 5.3% m/m. However, this was in line with our forecast.

We will publish an updated inflation forecast shortly. Our initial impression is that the upside surprise in today’s numbers is likely to be largely unwound in May, and as a result we would not anticipate significant changes to our forecast.

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Air fares up TWENTY NINE PERCENT AGAINST MARCH!?
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I don’t understand that.
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Aha – thanks SilverFox.
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Timing of school holidays. Of course.
TT
oil prices maybe? rampant exploitation of consumers?
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i think the 4.5 per cent though is line with what the bank was expecting anyway
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Right.
TT
still seems very uncomfortable to me
BE
Right – one last line from Ross Walker at RBS
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The implicit impact of VAT and other indirect tax rises is 1.5pp, a substantial
distortion but this still leaves the CPIY measure (ie, stripping out those indirect tax
effects) a full percentage point above the 2% target. Whilst this overshoot is to a
large degree simply a reflection of the energy price shock, the clearer evidence of
early spill-overs into areas such as transportation will be viewed by some as a sign
that second-round effects are materialising. Equally, given the continuing absence
of inflationary wage settlements, this energy-related shock will exert an even more
painful squeeze on consumer demand in more discretionary areas. Whatever your
inclination on this medium-term inflation debate, April’s data are miserable.
BE
(@SilverFox: ha! Of course I should know to read Tracy’s posts.)
11:27AM
BE
Ok – now we’ve kicked off the Weimar Britain chat to the right ….
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What should we mention over here, Tony?
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Greece? BP? Superdry? Autonomy? Graham Secker on strategy?
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Quite a smorgasbord.
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Let’s start with BP, shall we.
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the not entirely surprising news
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BP’s Rosneft share-swap deal collapses
By Catherine Belton in Moscow and Sylvia Pfeifer in London
Published: May 17 2011 08:59 | Last updated: May 17 2011 09:17
BP‘s bid for a strategic alliance with Rosneft, the Russian state oil champion, collapsed on Tuesday after the UK oil group failed to reach agreement to salvage its $16bn share swap before a midnight deadline expired.
Rosneft was not willing to extend the deadline further, a person close to the state company said, after talks failed over a deal to buy out BP’s partners in TNK-BP, its existing Russian joint venture. A person familiar with the matter said Rosneft would now seek new partners for the Arctic exploration deal it had proposed for the alliance with BP.
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Right. So what does this actually mean?
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Anything?
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not much…deadlines provide some good theatre and hook for us hacks to pin a story on
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but the negotiations will probably go on
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it is still a morass that i still don’t know how bp got itself into
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presumably it understood the contents of the TNK-BP shareholder agreement
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but still pressed on with a deal with Rosneft, perhaps assuming some kind of intervention from the kremlin
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that the kremlin would lean on their jv partners to agree to a deal
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i note the share price of bp has actually risen today
BP PLC (BP.:LSE): Last: 444.35, up 5.9 (+1.35%), High: 445.40, Low: 434.10, Volume: 14.49m
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Edging up.
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have you seen some commentary bryce on this?
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Few bits
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VP: presumably Diddley was offered a deal that he could hardly refused
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RBS thinks the deal can now be left for dead.
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And the only talks between the companies are over some kind of orderly retreat.
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Although BP IR is stressing that BP is still in talks with Rosneft and AAR, it is not clear what these talks are about.
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Evidently, feathers have been ruffled on all sides and one possibility is that talks are now focused on ensuring smooth ongoing relations.
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Our working assumption is therefore that both elements of the previously announced deal – the Arctic exploration element and the share swap – are now unlikely to go ahead.
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Probably the impasse with AAR will raise questions about the sustainability of the partnership
between BP and AAR in TNK-BP, but we would point out that this has survived considerable
strain in the past.
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Given that the Rosneft deal was presented by BP as a part of its rehabilitation in the
aftermath of the Macondo accident, the apparent failure of the deal may create something of
a hole in the BP story that management may feel the need to address. It is not clear at this
time what any replacement might be.
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Although we assume that the apparent failure of the deal is a significant disappointment for
BP management, whose reputation has been tarnished by these recent developments, we
believe investors will be pleased that the controversial share swap element of the deal will not
take place and that recent uncertainty appears (almost) over
BE
We believe that some analysts and investors have previously included the dilutive impact on
EPS of the share swap in their forecasts (we did not do so). If the share swap is finished, as
now seems likely, this may force these analysts and inventors to upgrade their EPS forecasts.
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We assume that part of the attraction of the share swap from a BP perspective was to
introduce a substantial, stable shareholder to create a degree of protection against possible
takeover. If the share swap does not go ahead, this negative for the share price is eliminated.
BE
BP’s shares have underperformed peers by 11% since the Rosneft deal was announced in
January. Assuming that the Rosneft deal is now unlikely to go ahead, we regard this as a
considerable over-reaction and would expect today’s news to generate improved relative
performance in the coming days.
BE
That’s all from David Cline of RBS
TT
i suspect it is in bp and rosneft’s interests to pretend the deal is dead so their negotiating positition is stronger with AAR
BE
Hm. That’s rather Machiavellian.
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I’m not suggesting you’re wrong. Just cynical.
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that is a positive trait for a hack
11:36AM
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Ok – getting result requests on the right
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Starting with Vodafone I guess
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Which looked boring, quite frankly
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Numbers are fine
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Guidance is a bit weak
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But the shares have come off a long way
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So they’ve Emoticon
Vodafone Group Plc (VOD:LSE): Last: 171.65, up 3.4 (+2.02%), High: 172.20, Low: 169.60, Volume: 55.94m
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Simply can’t get excited about Vodafone
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by all accounts the results were better than the rest of the european sector
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at least not as bad
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Yeah. But it’s still just a utility, with a bit less regulation and a lot more churn.
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And, indeed, they’re not as bad as KPN and Belgacom numbers
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the traditional argument for telecoms companies..but they have often not performed liked utilities
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We should note that there was a sudden rash of Vodafone forecast downgrades last week
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Which took the consensus down 3% or thereabouts
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Immediately before these figures.
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Nothing suspicious about that, obviously.
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guided down perhaps?
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i cant believe a company would do that
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No. We can’t say that kind of thing.
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Though if others say it, we can’t possibly comment.
TT
anyway here is some reaction from investec
TT
n Vodafone shares had a weak run up to the results as investors banked on
Vodafone repeating the weak results of KPN (Buy) in particular due to its
mis-bundled price plans (or should that be mis-priced bundles, or both?). There
are no obvious signs of Vodafone suffering similar issues. Data revenues are up
26.4% in the year. Of the other strategic areas, emerging markets are up 11.8%,
fixed up 5.2% and European enterprise up 0.5%.
n Within the numbers, much focus is always attributed to the organic revenue
progression of the major reporting countries. For Q4, the organic service revenue
growth metrics came in as follows: Germany +0.8% (consensus -0.1%); Italy
-2.1% (consensus -2.2%); Spain -6.9% (consensus -7%); UK +4.7% (consensus
+6.5%); and India +16.2% (consensus +16%).
TT
The release also details a deeper relationship with Verizon Wireless to include
addressing the global enterprise market, joint purchasing using combined buying
power and technology standardisation. There is no further clarity in the release on
looming dividend distributions from VZW to Vodafone which have suffered a
6-year hiatus (Vodafone only receiving a sum to notionally cover the taxation
implications of its holding), but we suspect this will come in due course.
n Our Buy recommendation and DCF-based TP of 230p remain. Vodafone is our
top pick of the sector, set to benefit, we believe, from increasing data
monetisation, particularly in the near term, through the democratisation of
smartphones. The key risk to this stance revolves around the potential for voice
and SMS declines to override the data growth, or the need to ramp up investment
more than anticipated to cope with increasing data demand.
TT
and evolution’s take
TT
Given the generally dismal results reported by European telcos in 1Q11, Vodafone’s FY results were mercifully free of major new scares, with £7bn of free cash-flow well above guidance and consensus. However, the FCF beat was exclusively working capital driven and the mid-term guidance on margins and free cash-flow implies market estimates are too high and will be heading south over the next few days. The company expects margins to stop declining by 2013/14 – seemingly worse than the meagre 20bps foreseen by the market estimates for ‘11/12. We do not believe that this is yet fully in the price.
DETAILS – Vodafone reported FY revenues/EBITDA/EPS of £45.9bn / £14.7bn and 16.44p respectively vs consensus of £44.5bn/£14.7bn and 16.35p. Free cash flow of £7.05bn comfortably beat our estimate of £6.3bn and consensus of £6.7bn. However, ‘11/12 FCF guidance of £6.0-6.5bn is well below the market estimate of £7.2bn, but more in line with our £6bn forecast.
VALUATION AND RECOMMENDATION – We will review our 169p price target for FY results, but retain our reduce recommendation.
BE
(@Fatdaz: indeed, though the kamikaze subscriber grab in emerging markets unwinds even that argument. Look at India.)
BE
Ta – and here’s Goldman
BE
Vodafone has reported in-line FY2011 results (Y/E Mar). 4Q revenues of
£11.38 bn (organic service revenue growth of 2.5% yoy) were 3.7% ahead
of company gathered consensus, driven by ongoing strength in emerging
markets (both India and Vodacom beat our expectations), while Europe
was slightly weak (service revenue growth -0.8% yoy, with Spain and Italy
slightly weaker than expected). FY2011 EBITDA of £14.70 bn and adjusted
operating profit of £11.82 bn are exactly in line with consensus. Adjusted
EPS of 16.75p was 2.5% ahead of consensus, while FCF of £7.05 bn was 6%
above consensus owing to very strong working capital inflows.
BE
Guidance for FY2012 is once again relatively wide at £11.0-11.8 bn vs.
consensus of £11.6 bn; FCF is expected to be between £6.0-6.5 bn vs.
consensus of £7.0 bn. The reduction yoy in AOP and FCF principally
reflects the divestments of SFR and China Mobile, which will contribute
c.£0.5 bn / £0.3 bn to AOP and FCF respectively in FY2012. Weaker FCF
guidance also reflects the stronger than expected working capital inflows in
FY2011, which are not expected to be repeated. Mid-term guidance for 1%-
4% organic revenue growth and stabilizing EBITDA margins across the
period was also reiterated. The mid-term FCF target of £6.0-7.0 bn has been
reduced by £0.5 bn owing to SFR/China Mobile.
BE
Analysis
After a weak reporting season from European operators, Vodafone’s solid
results and conservative guidance are likely to be viewed positively.
Although FY2012 guidance is slightly light of consensus, we note that
Vodafone has consistently exceeded its guidance for the last two years. We
also expect management to talk down SMS/voice cannibalization risks at
the analysts’ meeting, noting that its bundling strategy is proving effective.
BE
Implications
We expect a modest relief rally in the stock today post recent
underperformance. We put our estimates and price target under review.
11:42AM
TT
just on the previous reference to Chris Giles of this parish..here is the link to his take on the inflation data
BE
And, since we’re doing requests, someone else was wanting Aviva comment.
BE
I haven’t read the results yet.
Aviva PLC (AV.:LSE): Last: 440.30, up 6.3 (+1.45%), High: 444.00, Low: 433.90, Volume: 3.83m
TT
i have not worked up the courage either
BE
But UBS has
TT
good for them
BE
Well, they’re paid to. To be fair.
BE
Life sales in line with guidance, margins higher than our forecast
Aviva has reported life and pensions new business of £7,770m, 1.5% below our
forecast and 15% below Q110. However the margin of 2.5% is higher than our
FY11 forecast of 2.3%. UK sales were 6% below our forecast due to 15% lower
than expected annuities and a 34% fall in bond sales. This was largely offset by 9%
better than expected sales in Europe, driven by a smaller than expected decline in
Italy and 13% growth in Ireland rather than a 10% forecast decline.
BE
Non-life sales ahead, combined ratio in line
Non-life premium growth of 9% is ahead of our full year forecast of 5%, and the
Q111 combined ratio of 97% is in line with full year guidance and our estimates
despite inclement UK weather in Q1. Reserve releases have fallen, UK personal
motor rates have risen 24% and HSBC have renewed their distribution agreement
for another 5 years, suggesting a good Q1 for the GI unit overall.
BE
On track for full year
Q1 reported EV of 576p looks in line with the expected level for this time of year
(FY10 542p) and on track for our full year forecast. The outlook comments are
positive, particularly for general insurance, and the financial targets are reiterated.
IGD surplus fell from £3.8bn to £3.5bn.
BE
Valuation – 470p PT based on Price/EV
The stock offers value on earnings (IFRS PER 9x, sector 12x, EEV PER 6x, sector
7x), but EPS dilution remains a risk until the group completes its disposals.
Price/EV 80% (sector 86%) and a yield of 6.2% (sector 4.8%) also suggest value.
We remain Neutral, however, as the next expected newsflow is further dilutive
disposals.
TT
but how is the embedded value?
BE
I don’t care.
BE
Maybe Cazenove do.
BE
Their post-conference-call note has just dropped in.
BE
A positive results call from Aviva with non-life clearly remaining the
most important development in our view. Remember, a key part of
our Overweight rating is a view that management has taken action in
recent years that have left its non-life business in good shape, and that
non-life would be a source of earnings upgrades for the stock – see our
recent note on the FSA returns for detail (link to the right). We believe
that this theme is starting to play out now.
BE
To re-cap, Aviva reported a 1Q11 combined ratio of 97% compared
to 102% versus 1Q10. In our view this is a very strong result for a
winter quarter, particularly given the statement that 1Q11 contained
“lower prior year reserve releases” – i.e. the quality improved YoY also.
• First sensitivity: if we assume that the rest of the year is exactly the
same as that experienced in 2011 the overall underwriting result should
come in at around £393mn compared to £263mn in 2010 and our current
forecast (pre-today) of c.£400mn.
BE
Second sensitivity – 2011 included bad weather in 4Q10 and relatively
normal weather for 2Q10 and 3Q10. If we normalized also 4Q10 then the
underwriting result could come in at around £433mn, higher than our
current forecast. Against this, reserve releases could be running at a
lower level than that experienced in 2010, which will provide some
offset.
• In combined ratio terms, the above we think translates into a full year
in the range of 96% versus the target of 97%. Aviva writes about £10bn
of non-life premiums, so each 1pp on the combined ratio is worth about
£75mn after tax, or 3.5p per share EPS.
BE
Final comment on non-life – management stated that in the last month
they have started see some signs of commercial lines hardening, but that
the next 3 months would be key. This could be an additional positive and
is not something in our numbers currently.
TT
did the cpi figures have any reference to the hikes in motor insurance? absolutely wounding lately
BE
I don’t know. And, to reiterate, I don’t care.
BE
How anyone can face dedicating their career to sector called “non life” is beyond me.
TT
very good bryce…it could be worse…
11:47AM
TT
or should i say frings could be worse…
TT
Germany (AP) – Former Germany international Torsten Frings is leaving Werder Bremen after a six-year second spell at the Bundesliga club.
BE
“Torsten Frings”
TT
while we are on europe now…shall we turn macro
BE
Certainly.
TT
graham secker, one of the best on the street, has a note on european strategy
BE
Go on. We used to quote Secker a lot here.
BE
This better be worth waiting for.
BE
{taps watch}
TT
can’t get the help these days…sorry for the tardiness..pdf went missing
BE
We’ll just amuse ourselves, shall we?
TT
We expect defensive outperformance to continue
We remain relatively cautious on markets in the
short-term and continue to favour defensive stocks
given: 1) current outperformance is relatively modest; 2)
seasonality trends; 3) defensives remain under-owned;
4) macro newsflow likely to weigh on risk appetite.
Long-term growth expectations for defensives at
record low versus cyclicals
In addition to these tactical considerations, there are two
other factors that may make defensives appealing to
longer-term investors. First, long-term EPS growth
expectations for defensives are at a record low relative
to cyclicals. Second, defensives also trade at long-term
valuation lows versus cyclicals on a variety of valuation
metrics.
What would make us turn more optimistic
Key macro catalysts to make us turn more positive on
markets and cyclicals again include: 1) a renewed
upturn in economic newsflow; 2) evidence that EM
inflation is peaking; 3) navigating the end of QE2 without
undue volatility.
BE
Ah – at last.
TT
Six reasons to raise Pharmaceuticals to neutral
It is not too late to add some exposure to
Pharmaceuticals. Post poor long-term performance the
sector offers good value, ownership levels are below
recent history, earnings expectations are at historically
low levels and any USD strength associated with the
end of QE2 should offer support.
Too early to bottom-fish in commodities
To fund our upgrade of Pharmaceuticals we reduce our
weighting in Energy. We like the commodity space from
a structural standpoint but believe it is too early to
bottom fish just now.
TT
how do they expect you to lift their material if they make it hard to copy and paste their emails
BE
So – Secker’s not in the “commods look cheap” camp.
BE
Interesting.
BE
Lots of brokers pushing that line this week.
BE
Several of them connected in some way to the Glencore float.
BE
Which, I’m sure, is just a coincidence.
Xstrata PLC (XTA:LSE): Last: 1,413, up 26 (+1.87%), High: 1,420, Low: 1,373, Volume: 5.53m
TT
i am sure…
TT
there was a note out today from credit suisse
TT
are they by chance in the glencore float line up?
BE
Um ….. Merrill, BNP, BarCap
BE
SocGen
BE
UBS
BE
Liberum
BE
Citigroup
BE
And — aha, yes, Credit Suisse.
TT
they are on the deal..like most of the street
TT
and they are bullish on miners
TT
Credit Suisse on the miners


Earnings momentum negative – commodities down, cost pressures up.
Earnings trends -10y show that consensus earnings have consistently
lagged commodity and share prices by 3-6 months and downgrades have
tended to call a bottom to performance. Recent trends suggest an earnings
trough in June/July and improved relative performance from Q311.

Lagging indicator: YTD the sector spot PE has remained around 7.5x
showing the stocks are at least efficient in pricing in commodity movements.
Our focus remains on fundamentals; in H2 we expect rebounding IP
momentum and improved risk appetite to underpin metal prices and drive a
re-rating of the sector. Base metals have underperformed bulks significantly
YTD, we would expect some of this to reverse in H2 as visibility improves.

TT
Cost inflation is a natural part of the cycle however pressure has built YTD.
Our strategists expect ongoing appreciation of the A$ and ZAR, but
predicated on ongoing strength in the commodity cycle. To see the multi
year 20%+ pa inflation seen 2005-08 would require oil over $160/t in 2013
and A$/ZAR/Peso 20% stronger from here. Possible but unlikely without a
significant step up in commodity prices.

Stock picks: Copper (ANTO, KAZ) and platinum (LMI, AQP) screen with
the greatest downgrade risk. RIO remains top pick with cheap spot valuation,
our bullish outlook on iron ore in 2011/12 and upside potential from balance
sheet re-gearing. As confidence/visibility improves we would recommend
adding to core large cap names to gain greater exposure from more
leveraged/base metal exposed names.
TT
Inflation unlikely to reach 05-08 levels without similar
appreciation in underlying commodities
The underlying cost base for many of the mining companies have direct linkage to
commodity prices themselves given the consumption of steel, grinding media, energy etc.
The rise in steel prices and the oil prices can be taken as good proxies for rising material
and energy costs.2005-08 witnessed 20%+ annual cost inflation each year. 2004-2008 the oil price more
than doubled from an average of $41 in 2004 to $100 in 2008. To see similar levels of
energy inflation the oil price would need to nearly double from below $80 in 2010 to close
to $160 in 2013.
BE
Yeah, that’s the argument. For alternative ways to phrase it, see any other broker.
TT
just on banks and bankers..there was a very amusing piece in the journal this morning…
BE
Go on.
TT
an piece on carsten kengeter, who runs the UBS investment banking operations
TT
it was a follow after our interview with him but had some amusing reportage of the bleating of bankers about pay
TT
He told us that bankers are spoiled children and we’re the ones who messed this place up,” said one senior banker who recently left the firm. “You would get off the calls and think, ‘how can I stay here any longer?’”

On early morning conference calls, Mr. Kengeter has told senior bankers that he was done with their complaints about pay. “You just don’t get it,” he told thousands of bankers on more than one recent call, according to bankers who were on the call.

TT
and later in the story
TT
Toward the end of last year, senior UBS executives frequently held what one banker dubbed “appeasement conference calls,” imploring bankers not to leave and asking them to “trust us” because “everything was going to be OK,” according to people who have been on those calls
TT
here is the full piece
TT
well it is very interesting positioning by kenegeter
TT
particularly Ozzie fell out of favour at UBS…
TT
and Ozzie is not the most diplomatic of bank bosses
BE
Bankers talking about how they’re worth it. Never an edifying sight.
BE
Carsten Kengeter should talk it over with Torsten Frings
BE
Anyway, it’s midday already so we should probably mention a few more movers.
12:00PM
TT
ok what is moving Bryce
BE
First up, Invensys
Invensys PLC (ISYS:LSE): Last: 316.90, down 2.5 (-0.78%), High: 316.90, Low: 309.70, Volume: 1.25m
BE
Underperforming for a second day
BE
And there seem to be real worries that the next set of numbers will miss
BE
This is after its micro-managing CEO got the bullet, of course.
TT
it is the first-set-of-results-afte-a-change-of-management-syndrome
BE
Yup. Exane sums up the argument here
BE
Downgrading to Neutral, new target price 350p
While we see limited risk of a significant miss for Invensys’ FY2011 results (due on 19
May) we now perceive emerging headwinds for Invensys Rail division (40% of Group
EBIT) as we progress into 2012-13.
BE
Three reasons to turn more cautious on the rail business
(1) Failure to secure the London Underground SSR contract (worth c.GBP400m); (2)
Invensys Rail’s ability to deliver organic sales growth now relies on the tender for the
Saudi Mecca-Medina high speed line (worth c.GBP400m). Even if Invensys were to
win the contract, press reports suggest that pricing could be under pressure; (3)
Invensys holds three Network Rail ‘Type A’ regional signalling contracts (worth
c.GBP220m); these agreements originally ran through to 2011, with the option of an
extension out to 2016. With renegotiations taking place at a time when government
budgets are at their most distressed, the margins attached to future Type A work
could well prove to be lower than those achieved previously.
BE
EPS cut by 5% in FY12 and 10% in FY13 to reflect a tougher outlook for Rail
In the absence of significant contract opportunities for (particularly the UK) business,
we expect organic growth to turn negative at Invensys Rail from H2 2012e onwards.
We cut our FY2013 organic sales growth forecast for Invensys Rail to -3% from 3%.
BE
► Valuation; new TP 350p; downgrade to Neutral
We reduce our FY2013 SOP-based price target to reflect the changes to our forecasts
for Invensys Rail operating performance. The group trades on FY2013e EV/EBITA of
9.0x vs. the sector on 8.8x. We downgrade the stock to Neutral. We see better
opportunities elsewhere in the sector, Cookson (+, TP 800p) and IMI (+, TP 1220p).
BE
And Numura are saying the same.
BE
The trading update suggested results should be broadly in line with
expectations, so we expect the focus to be on detail as to why the
change of management was required and even more importantly
what will change, why and how under the new CEO.
BE
The trading update, released on 24 March, indicated that results will be
broadly in line with consensus expectations and that performance was on
track. However, the company also announced the surprise resignation of
CEO Ulf Henriksson and the appointment of Wayne Edmunds, previously
CFO, as his successor. If results are in line therefore, we believe this will
be the key focus of the day.
BE
Although it is early days for the new CEO, we hope to get from Mr.
Edmunds some indication as to what will change under his leadership and
why.
BE
The recent loss of the TFL subsurface line contract was a surprise and the
market will, we believe, be looking for reassurance of the go-to-market
strategy for Rail and IOM in particular.
• We expect little need for a major ‘kitchen sink’ to address any issues,
although we believe that Rail may need some capacity adjustment work in
the UK in the medium term as a result of the loss of the SSR contract.
• We forecast FY11 sales of GBP 2.44bn, +8.9% y-o-y and in line with
consensus expectations. We forecast operating profit before exceptional
items of GBP 259m (vs GBP 248m), in line with consensus expectations of
GBP 261m.
BE
We also note that the FTSE 100 is due to be rebalanced on 20 May.
Invensys is potentially at risk if the stock materially underperforms on the
day.
• We maintain our Neutral recommendation and our share price target of
345p. The latter is based on our EVA® methodology applying a long-term
sustainable growth rate of 4%, an incremental ROIC of 26.3% and a pre-tax
WACC of 12.5%
BE
Oh – forgot about next week’d FTSE rejig.
BE
To the person who was mentioning 3i earlier …. watch yourself for that.
3i Group PLC (III:LSE): Last: 295.60, up 9.2 (+3.21%), High: 296.10, Low: 285.00, Volume: 4.18m
BE
Otherwise, De La Rue seeing a bit of support
De La Rue Plc (DLAR:LSE): Last: 837.50, up 14 (+1.70%), High: 846.00, Low: 822.00, Volume: 250.23k
BE
After UBS says Oberthur may come back
BE
Bloomberg reports last week suggested Oberthur is looking to sell a 60% interest
in its smartcard business, with a suggested valuation (for 100%) of c€1bn. This
would clearly go some way to easing financing concerns on a bid for De La Rue. It
would also leave Oberthur a significantly smaller business and given a stated aim
to grow its banknote business (La Tribune, April 11), another bid for De La Rue is
quite possible in our view. The 6 month period in which Oberthur is restricted from
bidding for De La Rue ends on 24 July.
BE
FY11 results on 24 May – no update on India as yet
Whilst we would have expected a resolution on the India contract by now, the lack
of announcement on it suggests there has been no further news. We continue to
assume it is not retained in our forecasts. For the results, we are looking for
revenue of £471m (FY10: £561m), PBT of £29m (£104m) and EPS of 21p (76p).
BE
Expect a strategy review from new CEO
With c5 months in the job, we would expect a detailed strategy review from the
new CEO, Tim Cobbold. We would expect a focus on self-help measures although
we believe the low hanging fruit was achieved under the Quinn management team.
BE
Valuation – upgrade rating to Neutral, increase PT to 800p from 565p
Whilst stock remains fully valued and recovery takes time, we recognise increasing
probability of a bid. Our revised PT is based on 50% probability of a bid at £10.30
(we believe company looking for bid over £10 and Oberthur’s actions suggest it
would pay a strategic price), and 50% of our fair value of 565p. We upgrade our
rating to Neutral (from Sell).
TT
(steven.frazer: please enlighten us)
TT
i see now
TT
May 17 (Bloomberg) — African Barrick Gold Plc said it started an internal investigation after Tanzanian police were attacked by intruders at the North Mara mine site. There have been no “material impacts” on the operation or production, the company said in a statement today.
BE
Yes, rather an interesting statement.
BE
On 16 May 20011, a number of the Tanzanian Police (FFU) came under sustained
attack by approximately 800 criminal intruders who illegally entered the North
Mara mine site and attempted to remove ore from the run of mine (ROM) pad.

BE
800!
BE
The FFU had been called to the area to respond and were set upon by the
criminal intruders armed with machetes, rocks and hammers.
TT
a bit more lively to read than aviva’s results
BE
Machetes, rocks and hammers!
BE
According to information received, a number of intruders sustained gunshot
wounds, resulting in seven intruder fatalities and twelve injuries.
BE
Seven dead. Blimey.
BE
The police have begun an investigation into the incident.
BE
I’d hope so.
BE
Additional police
have been deployed to the area. African Barrick Gold has also initiated an
internal company investigation. There have been no material impacts to the
operation or production.
TT
what are the stock exchange rules for this kind of thing…do you only have to make a statement after say, 100 criminal intruders with machetes?
TT
is there a threshold?
BE
“RNS Re: speculation of machetes”
BE
Although full details are yet to be confirmed, African Barrick Gold sincerely
regrets any loss of life or injury on or near its mine sites. The company will
continue to support the government and the community in their efforts to
improve law and order and security in the North Mara region.
African Barrick Gold PLC (ABG:LSE): Last: 479.30, down 18.3 (-3.68%), High: 496.80, Low: 478.50, Volume: 422.04k
TT
crikey
TT
anyway..thank you steven.frazer
BE
Takes “emerging markets risk” to a new extreme, that.
TT
Vintage: or at the RBS agm
12:10PM
BE
Ok – we’re aiming to wind up early this week
BE
Because we both have day jobs
BE
So, quickly, anything else to cover?
TT
well we should mention Supergroup as i know you are follower of fashion
BE
Needless to say.
TT
Nick Bubb in acerbic form on the retailer this morning
TT

SuperGroup (Buy): Talking of the weather, we have to always think of super SuperGroup in that context now, after last week’s embarrassing revelation that it didn’t have enough T-shirts and sandals to sell last month when the sun was shining. Of course, ever since then the weather has been more iffy, but we keep on getting emails from their Marketing department extolling the virtues of the new range and trumpeting the arrival of summer…And, as if to prove that if you can’t kick a man when he’s down when can you kick him etc, we spotted an item on the Retail Week website yesterday by their highly regarded Store Design Editor criticising the inflexibility of the latest expensive Superdry store design (”there is more to a winning brand than a good shopfit. Once in place it has to be capable of being updated”) and calling for them to move the concept on! Rumour has it that CEO Julian Dunkerton has been seen whirling around SuperGroup HQ in sunny Cheltenham crying “Infamy, infamy, they’ve all got it in for me…”.
Supergroup PLC (SGP:LSE): Last: 1,120, down 19 (-1.67%), High: 1,143, Low: 1,117, Volume: 91.03k
TT
did not realise they sold sandals…
BE
Just keeps falling, does Supergroup
BE
Fourth day down, I think?
BE
Don’t be expensive then disappoint. Market takes a long time to forgive.
12:13PM
TT
mmm…before i go, some commentary on greece? which is still a big wildcard factor
TT
i know it is bit like BP – a morass with no clear outcome
TT
it is jsut barcap had a reasonable note today
BE
Yes – ok then. Though the chances of resolution are nil, what with Monseur Pantsdown in the clink.
BE
Let’s have a look then.
TT
Greece: Differences of opinion apparent between one group, comprising Germany and the NL, who are open to an early “soft rescheduling”, and another group who still hope for progress in terms of fiscal consolidation and structural reform

Concerning Greece, euro area finance ministers evidently had a controversial and informal discussion. Eurogroup chair Juncker said that “if all the conditions [related to a quicker pace of asset sales and deeper spending cuts] were met, then we can discuss the question of ‘re-profiling’” (i.e. a ‘soft’, voluntary rescheduling of interest payments and/or maturity profiles). However, French FM Lagarde commented, “Restructuring, re-profiling: off the table”, while there were no briefings by German officials. Dutch FM de Jager commented that ministers had discussed “all kinds of topics, including restructuring, but in public we are very reluctant about discussing restructuring and debating restructuring”.

What was agreed (and as discussed in detail by us in Friday’s Global Economic Weekly) was that a final decision on Greece would only be made by the time the review report of the IMF mission is made available in June, with euro area heads of state making a final decision at the 24 June EU summit.

TT
Various press reports such as in the FT, Handelsblatt and Die Welt suggest that the following two main opinions emerged on Greece in yesterday’s Eurogroup meeting. One group, comprising at least Germany and the Netherlands, would consider a soft rescheduling of Greek debt held both by the foreign official and the entire private sector. This measure would flank additional austerity measures contained in the yet-to-be-revised EU-IMF adjustment programme following the disclosure of the new IMF programme review document in early or mid-June. In other words: this group reportedly supported the idea that an early rescheduling would benefit the country more than it would hurt it.

However, the second group of finance ministers reportedly still believes that there might be chance for Greece to sustain its debt service payments if new revenue-enhancing measures, expenditure cuts and privatization revenues were to be agreed and implemented. According to this group, Greece might still be able to return to international capital markets for funding in the course of the next year.

Crucially, a third proposal, namely to proceed with a financial top-up of the existing programme as soon as possible, seems not to have found any traction.

TT

As discussed in our 11 May comprehensive update on Greece, “Greece: The (long) countdown to restructuring”, we do not believe that Greece is presently capable of avoiding unsustainable debt dynamics under most plausible economic and political scenarios, which is why we believe the discussion reportedly held at the Eurogroup meeting as to how to re-profile the Greek sovereign debt stock in a market-friendly fashion has merit
TT
so they are in favour of re-profiling…
TT
a “verb” that sounds like what DSK is going through
TT
and probably just as painful
BE
Possibly because I’m an idiot, I just don’t understand why they don’t just get on with it.
BE
We’ve already priced in haircuts.
BE
I don’t understand what the delay is.
BE
GET ON WITH IT.
TT
why do today when you can procrastinate and hand the problem onto someone else
BE
Yeah – well, that seems to be it.
BE
It’s just prevarication. Who’s it helping?
TT
so your top five mixtape additions bryce?
BE
Oh – that Moldova tune from the Eurovision. And the first four Bucks Fizz singles.
BE
That’ll do.
TT
Outlaw..i would suggest you read martin wolf column last week on the inevitability of greek default..one of the best he has written
BE
Yeah – an outstanding column, that.
BE
Got the link?
TT
Outlaw..yes did attract a lot of correspondence
TT
almost as much as when there is a mistake in the crossword
TT
or mention gold in a story
BE
M. Wolf had a wonderfully deadpan way of dealing with the commenters.
BE
Something along the lines of: “well, we certainly get plenty of opinion here.”
BE
Anyway, quick smallcap corner or are you out of time Tony?
TT
apologies but i have to run…the day job beckons again..
BE
No probs. Likewise, I guess.
TT
again it has been an honour…thank you for having me
BE
Ta.
TT
will be back on thurs
BE
Oh – hang on
BE
Someone was wanting something on Xcite Energy
BE
Up 16% or so
Xcite Energy Ltd (XEL:LSE): Last: 209.60, up 18.1 (+9.45%), Volume: 2.63m
BE
And, quite frankly, I’m lost as to why.
BE
Xcite Energy announces that it has filed a Material Change Report with the Canadian Regulatory Authorities.
BE
Under Canadian Securities Law, a Material Change Report is required to be filed when, amongst other things, a company’s reserve report is updated. The Material Change Report provides background information in respect of the information contained in the Company’s press announcement dated 10 May 2011, and is taken from the Company’s Reserve Assessment Report prepared by TRACS International Consultancy Ltd.
BE
This is price sensitive …. because?
BE
If you’re desperate to pin a reason on today’s rally
BE
There is a Numis note around with a 225p target price
BE
Argung that the reaction to the Bentley result last week was overdone, but only by a bit.
BE
Although last week’s reserve report credited Xcite Energy with 28mmbbl of 2P
reserves, overall the report’s evaluation of the Bentley field was disappointing.
Estimated recoverable resources of 115mmbbl (2P+2C) from Bentley’s core area are
below both the previous CPR (122.5mmbbl) and management’s 120-250mmbbl
estimate for the Bentley field. While we believe Xcite’s share price will be
underpinned by its 2P reserve base, overall Xcite remains a risky proposition
relative to other E+Ps. We have reduced our target price from 453p to 225p, and our
recommendation moves from Buy to Add.
BE
2P reserves to underpin Xcite’s share price. The RAR credited Xcite with 28mmbbl
of 2P reserves for Bentley’s first stage production (FSP) phase, which we expect to
commence 4Q11. We see this as a positive result that partially derisks the asset, and
should underpin Xcite’s share price as the company moves into initial production. The
average EV/2P reserve multiple from a selection of global heavy oil peers is $13/boe,
underpinning Xcite at around 160p/share.
BE
Bentley’s recoverable resource below previous estimates. The RAR also estimated
best case contingent resources for Bentley’s core area of 87mmbbl, suggesting
recoverable resource from this part of the field of 115mmbbl (i.e. 2P+2C). This is below
the previous CPR’s estimate of 122.5mmbbl and at the bottom end of management’s
120-250mmbbl estimate for the Bentley field.
BE
Xcite NAV falls 26% to 335p/share. The impact on our Xcite NAV is twofold. Firstly,
for now we assume a smaller 115mmbbl Bentley development, i.e. the RAR’s
estimated 2P+2C resources. This is a conservative view we have taken in the absence
of any detail on Bentley’s resource potential beyond the core area. Secondly, we have
derisked our FSP valuation now that Xcite has been credited with 2P reserves – we
now assume a 90% CoS for this stage of the Bentley project. The overall impact on our
Xcite NAV is a 118p decrease to 335p/share.
BE
Risky relative to other E+Ps. We think Xcite is a riskier proposition than many other
E+P stocks. With the RAR now passed, there is a substantial length of time until the
next catalyst (first oil from the FSP, 4Q11) and continued uncertainty on the field’s
ultimately recoverable resource, in our view.
BE
Valuation. That said, in the meantime we think Xcite’s share price will be underpinned
by a healthy 28mmbbl reserve base, and the stock remains inexpensive at just 0.57
times NAV versus the E+P peer group at 0.78 times. Our target price has moved from
453p to 225p, and with 17% upside to this target we move our recommendation from
Buy to Add.
BE
(@DuTchie, Alphahunter: right then. But if they wish to “clarify” the “confusion”, why not do it in a transparent manner?)
BE
And, before I get into another argument with smallcap oil and bulletin board enthusiasts, I think it’s time to bid you all farewell.
BE
Thanks for all your comments today.
BE
(DuTchie: if any of this is new price sensitive information, why is it not in the RNS? Oh actually, on second thoughts, don’t answer. I really don’t care.)
BE
Join us tomorrow, when I *think* we have an appearance from Tracy to look forward to.
BE
So sit up straight, brush the spinach out of your teeth, etc.
BE
Until, then, have a good afternoon all.
BE
(@tk: I’ll ask next time he passes.)
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