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Markets Live transcript 31 Aug 2010

Markets Live chat transcript for the chat ending at 11:26 on 31 Aug 2010. Participants in this chat were: Neil Hume, FT Tony Tassell

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Good morning
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and welcome to Markets Live
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a bit late this morning
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being bombarded with calls about the move in Weir
Weir Group PLC (WEIR:LSE): Last: 1,231, up 72 (+6.21%), High: 1,231, Low: 1,142, Volume: 453.91k
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We will come back to that in a moment
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but first
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we have changed formation today
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and Tony Tassel is in
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when his machine works
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good morning…glad to be back
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excuse us if we are a little distracted today..it is transfer window closing today
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we will have to keep one eye on skysports and sportinglife
NH
I fear we will be disappointed
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if arsenal do not sight a goalkeeper today, there will be two unhappy gooners here
NH
yes
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we need someone better than Manuel
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the FT has an uusually high proportion of gooners…apart from the Editor who supports that team from the other side of north London
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the Scum have got a new keeper though
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complete season-long loan deal for Croatia goalkeeper Stipe Pletikosa
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on a stipe end i presume
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Emoticon
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Right we should push on
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enough footy live
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so what is happening with Weir..seems to be moving this morning
11:08AM
NH
Well
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stock zoomed up this morning
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and broker rining round asking why
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pumped even
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the idea seems to be a bid rumour
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and FTSE 100 inclusion
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after this morning’s rise it would be going into the index at the Sept review
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ahead of SSL
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coming out of the index will be Home Retail
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but we are still a week or so from the review
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so anyone betting on that move now
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is brave
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it is very close
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(LE – Scum = Spurs)
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remind us what Weir does Neil…Scottish pumps and valves
NH
err
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exactly that
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Weir has provided many exciting photos for the UK companies desk over the years of pumps
NH
a play on the oil and mining sectors though
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that explains its recent strong share price performance
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Weir Minerals is the global leader in the provision of slurry handling equipment and associated spare parts for abrasive high wear applications used in mining as well as in the niche oil sands and flue gas desulphurisation markets. Products include pumps, hydro cyclones, valves, de-watering equipment and wear resistant linings. Investment in materials, technology and engineered hydraulics ensure world class performance. The division is present in key mining markets, including South and North America, Australia and Africa.
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Weir Oil & Gas designs and manufactures pumps and ancillary equipment for global upstream and downstream oil and gas markets and provides substantial aftermarket service and support activities.

Upstream operations specialise in high-pressure well service pumps and related flow control equipment along with repairs, parts and service of pressure control and rotating equipment.

Downstream focuses on design and manufacture of centrifugal pumps, mainly for the refining industry. Principal operations are in North America, Europe and the Middle East.

TT
talking about index expectations…we are all hoping here that Ocado makes the grade
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oh there’s no doubt about that
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straight into the FTSE 250
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our pension fun will probably be forced to buy
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can’t they avoid it….
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I hope so
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anyway some sort of post IPO lock up has come off today
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it has been busy day for Ocado notes
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because there are lots of Ocado notes out
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Goldman – a book runner says they are worth 200p
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Morgan Stanley says 80p
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and UBS – another bookrunner – says 167p
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Didn’t the chief executive work for Goldman?
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yep
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and on UBS
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their price target is 167p – which is below the 180p float price
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that ranks as mea cupla to me
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indeed
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imagine the bank going back to investors…actually we now think it is worth much less
NH
here’s the UBS note
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or some of it
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Unique player in a growth market with key economic advantages
Ocado has a 13% (and rising) market share in the UK online grocery segment – a channel that
we estimate could grow by c15% p.a. for at least the next five years. We believe that Ocado’s
unique, centralised operation gives it key economic benefits relative to the mainstream grocers’
s.tore picking models.
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that’s by Matthew Taylor
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brave man
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here’s the target
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Ocado’s unique nature, high growth rate, and changing profitability and cash flow profiles create
significant valuation challenges. We value the company using EV/sales and EV/EBITDA
comparatives, plus a DCF. The average of these measures, which drives our price target,
indicates fair value at 167p per share. While recognising the wide variety of potential outcomes,
we believe the current share price fails to capture fully the risk-weighted growth opportunity for
Ocado.
TT
that is at least acknowledging reality..but it will not improve the mood of investors
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and they seem a grumpy lot at the moment
NH
on which note
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let’s have a look at the Morgan Stanley note
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80p target price
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the author is Geoff Ruddell
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a retail veteran
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and probably one who will be accused of not getting it soon
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We initiate on Ocado at Underweight (80p price target implies 44% downside) as we think the shares are likely to underperform the industry much further in the coming months. We think that Ocado can become profitable, but only if it can stabilise its gross margin and operate its CFC (Customer Fulfillment Centre) at close to full capacity. However, by definition, if its CFC is operating near full capacity, it can’t grow. We fear that the plans to open an additional CFC will
result in a step-change in its cost base, making it uneconomic. We believe that the online grocery
NH
We think the UK online grocery market will grow much more slowly than the bulls suggest: We argue that the economics for online groceries only makes sense for £100+ baskets. However, such transactions account for only 11.5% of all grocery sales in the UK. With c.2.5% online grocery penetration already, we believe that the market is already much more mature than many commentators realise.
NH
Our proprietary research suggests that Ocado’s share of the UK online grocery market may decline from next year We also believe that it would be very optimistic to assume that Ocado can maintain its current c.14% share of the UK online grocery market indefinitely, let alone grow it further.

Indeed, with 50% of Ocado’s sales coming from within the M25 (a market in which WaitroseDeliver is likely to launch next year), and both M&S and Morrisons yet to launch online grocery services at all, we believe that Ocado will struggle to grow as fast as the UK online grocery market over the next few years.

NH
interesting points on competition
TT
funny how it seems like the veterans in the retail analyst sector seem to be taking a dim view of Ocado’s prospects
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although ones made by the readers here
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i have breaking intelligence on Ocado from a colleague
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go on
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apparently he was rung and told deliveries will be delayed for 24 hours due to a power shortage at its warehouse
NH
oh dear
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oh dear, oh dear
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not sure if it is the fancy new warehouse that the company was touting as state of the art in the ipo marketing
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and just on the investors, did you see the quotes this morning
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about investors angry about the performance of Webvan and other ipos this year?
NH
oh yes, very good piece that by Miles and Anousha
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“Investors are sick to the back teeth of being treated like idiots,” said Dan Nickols, head of mid- and small-cap equities at Old Mutual Asset Managers. “Companies have been too greedy or misunderstood what the right price for their float is.”

David Lis, head of UK equities at Aviva Investors, added: “Until investment bankers realise that instead of lining their pockets and those of their corporate clients, they need to consider what is a fair valuation for the eventual buyer of their overpriced IPOs, then it is unlikely that the new issue market can function.”

NH
if you want to read more
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the quote i like was from Richard Buxton at Schroders earlier this month
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Buxton seems to becoming more and more outspoken
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he told citywire
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‘Ocado was floated on a ludicrous valuation with no less than nine banks involved. A lot of investment bankers are the worst people in the world.’
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yes, that is really very good
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speaking of worst peiple in the world..
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robinho is doing a medical at the moment for ac milan
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Emoticon
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right
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let’s finisnh up on Ocado
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and in the interests of balance
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are you going to put up the goldman note?
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no, I have something much more interesting than that
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a link
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from a new commenter
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Ocadofan – who I suspect might be connected with the coming
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it went up on III
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and tells the bears to beware – a big short sqeeze is coming
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Those who have heeded the advice of most posters to this thread, and sold Ocado short, might find it useful to consider this:

The Ocado IPO failed its original purpose of creating a widely owned stock, in the face of massive media headwind. Instead most of the available shares were picked up by a handful funds and some very rich individuals, most of whom were already shareholders.

NH
On opening day, 53m shares, or over ¼ of the total IPO were bought and sold for 155 to 170p. Who would sell at a loss on opening day, having spent weeks or months of analysis and due diligence? Well, probably nobody. And the original investors? Oh, but most of them are locked in for the rest of the year and beyond. Instead it was probably short selling, possibly all of it, except for intraday trading.

Could it be that almost no shares have been sold by anybody owning them in the morning of July 21? That short sellers have provided pretty much all liquidity to the market for the last five weeks? At latest count, 27m shares have been lent to short sellers. This amounts to roughly the total turnover in the last four weeks.

NH
Who then, have bought these shares? Has it been retail investors reacting to all the press coverage? Think not. Could it be the funds and individuals who bought at 180p, but who would actually have bought at 250p, picking up a few more? Could it be that Goldman, who were supposed to provide liquidity, and have a reputation of being able to count, might have seen an opportunity?

Could it be that this handful of fund managers, traders and investors know of each other? Well, they should, since all of the above is public knowledge. Could they know each other? Might they even talk? Would they, really?

If you think not, as a short investor you may sleep well at night. If you think they might, we could be in for a short squeeze.

NH
Those who have never experienced a short squeeze could do well to consider what happened two years ago when Porsche and the State of Lower Saxony combined had shares and options in Volkswagen totalling over 100% of the stock. And the State was prohibited by law from selling. That was the year Porsche’s profits exceeded its sales, paid for by some clever hedge funds selling short. Porsche later got caught in the credit crunch, but that is another story.
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http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=VOW.DE&t=5y&l=off&z=m&q=l&c=

NH
If you are short in Ocado, you might consider covering. If you are short with lots of other people’s money, you may soon have to consider an alternative career. Personally, I have taken out an extra mortgage and have gone rather long in Ocado. Wonder why?

Ocado’s unique nature, high growth rate, and changing profitability and cash flow profiles create significant valuation challenges. We value the company using EV/sales and EV/EBITDA comparatives, plus a DCF. The average of these measures, which drives our price target, indicates fair value at 167p per share. While recognising the wide variety of potential outcomes, we believe the current share price fails to capture fully the risk-weighted growth opportunity for Ocado.

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another VW-Porsche story then?
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err
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well, I don’t think that’s going to happen
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that is pretty extraordinary touting by Ocadofan..i have taken out a second mortgage etc
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madness
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he should be sectioned
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a good bit of Muppett madness
11:25AM
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(ROTR invbestors dont have to buy the shares if they are genuinely active managers but if they are trackers of index huggers, they might be obliged to)
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what is it with this autofresh thing that keeps knocking me out of the chat
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Ah that
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Paul and I did some digging at the weekend into this
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and last week there was a need code release for the site
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and all of our pages have had an autorefresh added
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don’t know why – although I could speculate
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but the bottom line is
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you can’t turn it off and it affects all browsers
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and us as well
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very annoying in the middle of sentence to get auto-refreshed
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EmoticonEmoticon
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(tuna..i am very pessimistic about the odds for Australia down under…i think England are too strong at the moment, even with a kookaburra ball and wickets mopre suited to bowlers…those bowlers are not good enough really and the batsmen have lost their fight)
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More on this auto-refresh thing when we have it
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neil has just been kicked by the auto refresh
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well it maybe time to move onto the wider market
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where are we neil…you have better access to the reuters machine
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OK
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(Lemmy – very good )
11:29AM
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i am on Bryce’s desk…which seems to be full of broken gadgets
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So, we are down
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Wall Street gave up Friday’s gains yesterday
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and we have headed lower
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FTSE 100 currently off 47 points at 5,153
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and a big week ahead
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data wise anyway, which is all anyone seems to care about anyway
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they are all big data weeks at the moment
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here is a note by Jim Reid at Deutsche looking at the week
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Well it is nearly time for 2010′s home straight. Those of us in the UK that are back from yesterday’s bank holiday were probably in need of the long weekend to prepare ourselves for the most important week for data (especially in the US) for many months. Tomorrow’s ISM Manufacturing report is the most eagerly awaited with Friday’s payrolls report not far behind. Today we have the final preview to the ISM with the Chicago PMI expected to pull back in August from its 3-month high of 62.3 to 57.0. The correlation between this and the ISM is decent so today’s number is a potential market moving event. As for tomorrow, consensus is now expecting the ISM to fall to 52.8 from 55.5 in July. In tomorrow’s daily we’ll repeat a chart we’ve used in recent months to show that an ISM in the low 50s is broadly consistent with US equities being slightly higher than they were 12 months ago. For the record the S&P 500 started September 2009 at 1020 and closed last night at 1049. So on a crude basis, one could argue that the market has probably priced in an ISM in the low 50s. We haven’t priced in anything worst than this over the coming months so any clues to the future direction of the economy via the details of the report will be crucial. Last month’s poor new order component was a great clue to some of the subsequent weaker data, so this component should be carefully watched. We should also watch the other Global PMIs carefully, especially the China report released tomorrow. In terms of Payrolls, markets are expecting headline non-farm payrolls to decline at a slower pace of -100k in August versus the -131k in Jul. Private payrolls are expected to grow, albeit at a slower pace (+47k in August versus +71k in July).
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god help us if the payrolls are a disaster
NH
yes
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could be interesting
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any way what has caught your eye this morning neil
NH
well, the biggest faller in the FTSE 100 at the moment is Serco
Serco Group PLC (SRP:LSE): Last: 578.00, down 19 (-3.18%), High: 582.50, Low: 574.50, Volume: 475.38k
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been hit by a downgrade from Merrill
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they say avoid the stock ahead of the comprehensive spending review
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which could be a bloodbath for the outsourcers
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central govt accounts for 50% of revenue at Serco
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and also Serco is now trading at a 5-year high vs Capita
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(from sportinglife: Could be a double deal brewing for Birmingham. As well as Hleb, Blues are also at a special work permit hearing with Chile World Cup star Jean Beausejour)
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i see the treasury is leading the way with cuts from our splash
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yes 25% going
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via natural wastage
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well there is a lot of natural wastage in treasury
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hope it is not just the cleaners and tea ladies who cop it
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I think it might be a lot of special groups set up by Gordo
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and they are all to have smaller desks
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they want to sqeeze more people into the Treasury building
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did Philip Stevens piece this morning in defence of public servants
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I did
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very amusinig
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the new govt thinks civils servants are bankers
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and has started war on them
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They are grossly overpaid and retire on platinum-plated pensions. They are fond of spending “working” weekends at five-star country clubs, and their taxi bills are higher than most people’s mortgages. Oh, and there are far too many of them.

I am not talking about bankers. Welcome instead to the coalition government’s view of Britain’s top public servants. Gordon Brown lacerated (latterly anyway) the plutocrats of the financial services industry. David Cameron’s administration prefers to stage show trials of well-heeled bureaucrats

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(EE – we will come to you oil stuff later on. Hang in there)
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The bankers’ crime was to gamble, and lose, hundreds of billions of pounds, thereby tipping the global and British economies into deep recession – all the while pocketing seven-figure bonuses. Public officials have been indicted for splashing out on smoked-salmon-and-cream-cheese bagels and adorning their offices with tropical foliage.

Hardly a day goes by without another tale of taxpayer-financed profligacy – each accompanied by squeals of indignation from a rightwing pressure group styling itself the Taxpayers’ Alliance.

11:37AM
NH
So Tony
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what has been the topic of conversation on the main news desk today
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Candover
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the slipping of the one time gold standard of private equity
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now effectively throwing in the towel
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Candover to Focus on Disposals After Sale Talks End (Update2)

^c.2010 Bloomberg News

(Adds analyst’s comment in fourth paragraph.)

By Anne-Sylvaine Chassany

Aug. 31 (Bloomberg) — Candover Investments Plc, the British private equity firm that halted investments in January, plans to sell its remaining assets and return cash to investors after talks to find a buyer for the fund manager broke down.

“The best way to optimize value is likely to be a move towards implementing a plan to return cash to shareholders,” Chief Executive Officer Malcolm Fallen said in a statement today. “There is significant value in the underlying investments in the portfolio.”

Candover Partners was forced to shut its 3 billion-euro ($3.8 billion) leveraged buyout fund in January after Candover Investments, its publicly traded parent, ran out of cash and canceled a 1 billion-euro commitment to the pool. Candover Investments ended talks last month to be acquired by Alberta Investment Management Corp., a Canadian pension fund.

“Whilst this is a sorry demise for what was one of the U.K.’s leading private equity funds until a couple of years ago, we think it is the most sensible course of action,” Iain Scouller, an analyst at Oriel Securities Ltd., wrote in a note to clients. He upgraded his rating on the stock today to “add” and expects the stock price to rise to 680 pence in six months.

Candover rose 1.7 percent to 605 pence as of 9:11 a.m. in London trading.

NH
wow
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it has just given up
TT
as martin arnold, our excellent scoop-getting private equity correspondent, points out that presents an interesting dilemma for the managers
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there will have to be some interesting incentives to stop them taking their time in selling off investments
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otherwise they could just collect the management fees until the fund has to be wound up
NH
I wonder how much the portfolio might fetch in liqidation
TT
there is a detailed note on this from Oriel this morning,….
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Oriel comment: Candover is planning to realise its portfolio over time and return the cash to investors. Whilst this is a sorry demise for what was one of the UK’s leading private equity funds until a couple of years ago, we think it is the most sensible course of action in the circumstances given that it would be extremely difficult to resume making new investments currently. Since the termination of the bid discussions, the shares have fallen sharply. Whilst the portfolio is concentrated with a relatively high risk profile, we continue to believe the potential returns to shareholders from the realisation of the existing portfolio in the next few years is likely to be well in excess of the current share price of 595p. With the shares trading on a 34% discount to NAV, we are upgrading the rating to ADD with a 6 month Price Target of 680p (prev. 815p during bid discussions). This represents a 25% discount to the 30.06.10 NAV.
The Candover NAV of 903p at 30.06.10 was below our expectations, with the write-down of the unquoted portfolio being greater than expected. The last published NAV was 1038p at 31.12.09.

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• NAV down 13% over H1 2010: The NAV was 903p, a significant decline of 13% from 1038p at 31.12.09. This was well below our estimated NAV range of 980-1030p. Whilst we expected earnings multiples to be weaker, we had expected much of this to be offset by earnings growth at underlying investments, in line with the trend at other private equity portfolios. Candover say that six of the ten largest investments delivered 12 month rolling earnings ahead of the year end position, with the remainder trading in line with expectations. The main negative was a writedown of Expro, which equated to 40p per share, due to weaker multiples in the oil and gas sector. Alma and EurotaxGlass were also written down due to lower multiples and in total these write-downs resulted in a further negative of 52p per share. Currency losses resulted in a decline of 54p per share.
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• Realisations: Realisations totalled £17.7m, of which £16.3m was from the sale of Springer Science & Business Media, which included crystallised carried interest payments of £12.6m. Since the period end, Candover Partners have agreed to sell Ontex, which is expected to complete before the year end, with initial cash proceeds of £16.4m, including £4.6m of carried interest. In addition, a further payment currently valued at £7.1m will be payable between completion and September 2012.
• Net Debt: Following the cash inflow from the Springer disposal, net debt fell to £59m, a decline from £73m at 31.12.09. The loan to value ratio (LTV) was 25% at the end of June, compared with 26% at 31.12.09. The covenant ratio on the debt is 40%.
• Outstanding commitments: Following the termination of the 2008 Fund, the outstanding commitment to the 2005 Fund is £73m. (31.12.09: £81m) We estimate that outstanding commitments are 37% of NAV.
• Portfolio concentration: As at 30.06.10, Expro was 44% of NAV, even after the write-down. The largest ten investments accounted for 124% of NAV, reflecting the impact of leverage within Candover’s structure. The concentration of the portfolio is likely to rise further as investments are realised.
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• Potential return of capital: The board say: “We have used this first half to review our options for the Company based upon our belief that there is significant value in the underlying investments in the portfolio. We consider that the best way to optimise value for shareholders is likely to be Candover remaining as a listed investment trust, with the sole purpose of returning cash to investors over time as portfolio realisations are made by Candover Partners. We are therefore reviewing the range of returns that could be achieved, the likely timescales, and the best way of returning capital to shareholders”.

NH
thanks for that
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very detailed
TT
that was long but i thought it was worth it
NH
just getting a share price
Candover Investments plc (CDI:LSE): Last: 605.00, up 10 (+1.68%), High: 605.00, Low: 605.00, Volume: 400
11:42AM
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Moving on
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well Andrew Garthwaite, the man with the giant brain at Credit Suisse has put out a big strategy note on european banks
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oh yes
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upgrading them to overweight after taking a more positive view of the economic recovery
NH
well at least someone is positive
NH
not had much of an impact yet
Barclays PLC (BARC:LSE): Last: 295.25, down 8.7 (-2.86%), High: 298.00, Low: 292.00, Volume: 12.49m
Lloyds Banking Group plc (LLOY:LSE): Last: 67.12, down 1.51 (-2.20%), High: 67.80, Low: 66.75, Volume: 36.46m
Royal Bank of Scotland Group PLC (RBS:LSE): Last: 43.43, down 0.07 (-0.16%), High: 43.43, Low: 42.38, Volume: 21.82m
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here are the key bits of the note.
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We took European banks up to benchmark from underweight on 8 July and now upgrade them to overweight. As a consequence, we are now overweight global banks (via Europe and GEM). We fund this upgrade by increasing our underweight in cyclicals (capital goods) and trimming our overweight in tech, media and food producers. We upgrade European banks as:

Macro risks are overstated: European and global PMIs are consistent with 2.5% and 3.5% GDP growth, respectively. Credit spreads lead both charge-offs and defaults by six months and are consistent with a further fall in both. Credit spreads have not widened in the past month, in spite of the macro worries priced into the bond market. We believe that the yield curve will steepen. Tight fiscal and loose monetary policy is beneficial for banks versus cyclicals (as it allows lower rates for longer and underpins sovereign credit quality). We do not expect a big negative surprise from US housing

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 Valuation and profitability are supportive. European banks trade on a 10% discount to historical norms on P/PPP, even on pessimistic charge-off and deleveraging assumptions. A PTBV of 1.1x is discounting a RoTE of 11%, but our banks team expects 14%, and possibly 17%, by 2012E. Banks is the cheapest major cyclical sector on HOLT®, given our assumptions. Pre-provisioning profits normally rise to be 16% above the previous peak in the three years after a banking crisis-and this time looks no different. Our banks team highlights that assets spreads are widening.

Lending conditions suggest positive loan growth in Europe.

Regulation and tax have been watered down: Our banks team estimates that the likely hit from BIS 3 has fallen from 37% of net earnings to 9%.

Positioning: Banks continue to be the largest underweight among sectors.

Our preferred banks are BNP, Commerzbank, Lloyds, SAN, HSBC, Unicredit and Sberbank, BBNI, Kasikornbank and KB Financial Group in GEM.

TT
not Barclays it seems…
NH
and they are broker, no?
TT
by the way have you noticed how all the bike lanes seem to be painted in bright barclays blue…just as they are sponsoring those dangerous bikes
NH
oh the cycle scheme you mean
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how much does it cost?
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yep..very fine but i would still not ride anywhere in the city without a helmut
NH
very wise
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and on Barclays
NH
I see that Breaking Views are looking into the break up story again
NH
LONDON, Aug 31 (Reuters Breakingviews) – The UK bank’s universal structure allows it to tap cheap funding. If new regulations remove this advantage, spinning off Barclays Capital could help to reduce its stock market discount. But jumping the gun without knowing the full scale of the crackdown could do more harm than good
NH
Barclays has a big call to make. As a global lender whose retail and investment banking arms share a single tightly-integrated capital and funding structure, it looks a prime target for regulators seeking to make the system safer. The bank has three options: maintain the status quo; build a firewall between its Barclays Capital investment bank and its retail operations; or separate the two entirely. A break-up probably only makes sense if regulators really do get tough.
NH
Because the bank operates from a single balance sheet, Barclays Capital is able to benefit from cheaper funding than if it were independent. Spreads on Barclays’ credit default swaps are 40 basis points narrower than those of standalone rivals like Goldman Sachs . The widespread belief that the authorities would not allow Barclays to fail probably also helps.
TT
a colleague points that cycle scheme is one way of taking out tourists
NH
it could well be effective
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I wouldn’t ride in the City with a hellmet
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or a tin hat
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you are jogger though..that is just as dangerous
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anyway back to garthwaite
NH
yes
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go on
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specifically on UK banks he says
TT
we see the following advantages in the UK:
a) UK assets re-price more quickly than elsewhere.
UK mortgages account for 40% of UK loans (60% for Lloyds) and tend to re-price within
two to three years as customers come off fixed-rate deals. New margins are 250bps
versus 50bps on 2007 mortgages and 40% of mortgages have yet to re-price.
b) UK banks have had far greater write-offs than in Europe (Figure 72).
c) UK banks have a higher Equity Tier 1 ratio (10%) than banks in the rest of Europe
(only Scandinavia and Switzerland are higher). d) The UK government has acted more quickly than most other governments to
underpin its AAA credit rating, tightening fiscal policy by 2.2% of GDP in 2010/11.
The UK is also at the start of the election cycle (and therefore less vulnerable to
populist measures) and with the Liberal Democrats doing badly in the polls, there
is little incentive for them to break the coalition. Clearly, the sovereign credit rating
is very important for the banks.
e) There is a single regulator.
TT
i also thought he made one other really interesting point
TT

We would highlight that the 12-month trailing default rate for US speculative corporate
debt peaked at 14.5% in November 2009 and has since fallen to 5.4%, with Moody’s
projecting it to continue falling to 2.1% by July next year (considerably below the pre-crisis
average of 4%). Thus, both credit spreads and Moody’s projections of future defaults imply
charge-offs should fall to below 1%, from the current 3%. This is important because each
10bps off charge-offs equates to 8% on pre-tax operating profit, on our estimates.
Furthermore, banks should have performed better given the fall in credit spreads—they
have underperformed over the past two weeks despite the contraction in spreads.
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neil is kicked out again..this is like the hokey pokey
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back in
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that is an interesting point
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while we are on the banks
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Deutsche has a big banks note out
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not that interesting
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but here is the conclusion for bank fans
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Sector on 1.1x price to tangible book value: we stay positive. The sector is trading on
8x 2011E adjusted earnings, and 1.1x 2011E tangible book value Our top picks are
Lloyds (TP 90p), Barclays (TP 400p), Julius Baer (TP CHF 48), Credit Suisse (TP CHF
64), and Société Générale (TP Euro 55), all rated as BUY. We would continue to avoid
peripheral Europe and weaker-capitalised banks. The key risk to our positive view on
the sector remains the economic outlook. Even if tail risks are indeed lower than 2007,
we still see downside to around 0.7x P/TBV, implying 35% downside potential.
11:50AM
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Right
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Service announcment
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for those of you who missed it earlier
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the auto refresh is not your fault, or that of your browser
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it is a new piece of code
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that has been added to the site
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and we are trying to sort it
11:50AM
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ok…any raw around this morning..i saw you on the phone this morning as always
RAW is market chatter – information that has not been formally tested through traditional journalistic channels (PRs etc). The story might be complete rubbish, but if we believe there is some substance to it we will say so. Either way, Reader Beware.
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One bit
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which we hinted at last week
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fund management
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Gartmore to be precise
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another recent stinker of a float
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so what is the story neil
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Hellman & Friedman
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were Gartmore’s PE backers
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but they retained a stake post float
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a pretty large one
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23% I believe
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anyway I am told that Hellman has received several expressions of interest about the stake
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and there have been some discussions
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not sure who detailed or formal they have been
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but there is interest
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in many ways Gartmore would be much happier as a private company
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indeed
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i thought the CEO’s comments were interesting last week, bemoaning life as a public company
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Jeffrey Mayer, chief executive, said: “The constant dialogue [with the market] during challenging periods does create more speculation, uncertainty and conjecture around the business that is not healthy.”
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I guess the float was forced by PE
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they still have to deal with the FSA though as a private company
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that’s true
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the stuff with the French hedge fund guy would still be there
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although not as publically
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and Roger Guy has never been one to court the limelight
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Gartmore shares down 1.2p at 116.7p at the moment
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are you taking this seriously neil?
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I think there could be something to it
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whether it ever comes to a deal, I don’t know
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but Gartmore does look vulnerable
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and to a degree the Rambourg situation has been cleared up
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so perhaps there is a buyer out there
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although I can’t believe it would be Henderson
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or Jupiter for that matter
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perhaps another PE company
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(sportinglife: SSN now reporting Stoke have agreed a deal with Monaco to cover Eidur Gudjohnsen’s wages and he’s due at the Britannia Stadium shortly)
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(alsio. Sky Bet go Evens Jermaine Jenas is a Stoke player by the end of the transfer window while Ryan Babel is Evens for Tottenham.)
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any more raw out there Neil…
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as it happens there is
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but you need to assume the brace position
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and put on the Emoticon
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go on then..i am braced and sceptical
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well, Gulf Keystone
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it’s a target
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says one of the brokers who went on Todd’s trip to Kurdistan last week
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who?
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Daniel Stewart
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The Great Race
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I will start again
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here’s the note tittled the Great Race
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By virtue of its astonishing reserve
potential, Gulf Keystone is likely to
become a takeover target
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a punchy begining
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Shaikan has Pmean resources of 4.2bnbbl. An
oil/water contact at 2,230m could indicate
resources of >18bnbbl on just one of its four
blocks

To maximise shareholder value before they
become a bid target, Gulf Keystone should
prove up the resources of its other blocks
through drilling and seismic

Getting more rigs ameliorates earlier delays
and their return potential far outweighs the
costs and balance sheet impact

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This is a race against time trip in Kurdistan. The headline was to report its impressive assets and how bullish we are. Here we provide significantly more detail and analysis of the investment opportunity in a significant discovery, and in our opinion, a likely takeover target..

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Volumes in place and recovery rates
Volumes for Shaikan have been a well known theme since the first reported
discoveries and the January 2010 report by Dynamic Global Advisers which
summarised volumes as follows: P90 1.9bnbbl, P10 7.4bnbbl and Pmean 4.2bn bbl.

Not included in these figures are the two shallow zones that are the target of Shaikan-3 which could add 500mmbbl or more. These days a discovery of 500mmbbl is worthy of headlines, yet at Shaikan this is a ‘mere addition’ and goes to show the sheer scale of the find.

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Having said that, what has not yet occurred at any of the blocks is the determination
of the oil/water contact point. Shaikan-1 had to stop due to an unanticipated gas kick
and did not encounter water. Comparing pressure gradient data from Gulf
Keystone’s drill stem tests (DST) and those from other wells such as the Jebel Kand-
1, suggests that the oil-water contact may be as low as 2,230mTVDSS. Should this
in fact be the case, resource volumes at Shaikan would be in the 18bnbbl to 20bnbbl
range. A similar analysis across all of the blocks could see resources of 60bnbbl or
more and with a recovery rate of about 30% Gulf Keystone could be sitting on a giant
on an equal footing to the Kirkuk field which has been producing for more than
seventy years and still flows at 400,000 – 500,000b/d. This part of the investment
thesis will have more clarity once Shaikan-2 discovers the oil-water contact point
which would be in Q1 2011 by our estimate.
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there will be more on this
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in the usual place later
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because it has lots of nice pictures
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from the trip
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aparently Kurdistan is open to tourists now: http://tourism.ostan-kd.ir/en/
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EmoticonEmoticon
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so what is the price doing Neil?
Gulf Keystone Petroleum Ltd (GKP:LSE): Last: 108.75, down 3.25 (-2.90%), High: 111.50, Low: 108.00, Volume: 1.17m
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not having the desired effect – YET
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and while we are talking about oil
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one of the ROTR asking about Afren
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down after what seemed to be a good statement
Afren Plc (AFR:LSE): Last: 99.00, down 2 (-1.98%), High: 99.35, Low: 96.00, Volume: 5.64m
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(dinker..i am not sure that See Kurdistan and Die is their slogan)
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the problem seems to be a modest delay in the Ebok field ramp up
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well, that’s according to Morgan Stanley
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Quick comment on H1 interims: After a recent run-up
in the shares, the bears will undoubtedly focus on a
modest delay in Ebok field ramp-up to plateau (ph 1 &2)
and therefore FY 2010 production. Nonetheless, there is
evidence Afren is making strong progress towards the
Ebok production test (c. 15kb/d) in early Oct, while there
was a notable positive surprise from the results of the
Ebok 8 well which encountered 100ft of oil pay in the
LD1E sand. With Okwok well (35 day targeting 70mb)
spud last week, a completion date on the Black Marlin
transaction due in early October and a high impact E&A
drilling campaign kicking off with OPL115 in Q4, the next
12m remains company defining. A presentation at 9am
should reassure on Ebok, financing and provide an
update on potential acquisitions in Nigeria through FHN.
With 46% upside to our Base NAV of 147p/sh, we would
use any near-term weakness to increase weightings
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hope that helps
12:01PM
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Breaking news
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statement from Numis on the weekend press speculation
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Numis notes the press coverage in relation to a legal claim and confirms that it has been notified of allegations, via this claim, in relation to a private placing in 2007 in respect of Rock Well Petroleum Inc. Numis believes that the allegations are entirely spurious and unfounded. Numis will defend this claim vigorously, following due process.
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shares were off 9% on that earlier
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they seem to have got a lot of big investors offside
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not sure we can talk about all the allegations
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Oh dear
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Tony has been completely auto-refreshed off the system
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ouch
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for those we access to the Times
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Fidelity International, the fund manager, and CQS, the London-based hedge fund, have launched a $95m (£61m) claim against Numis, the AIM-listed stockbroker
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Fidelity, the American fund manager, and CQS, the London-based hedge fund, have launched a $95m (£61m) claim against Numis, the AIM-listed stockbroker.

They allege that Numis made “fraudulent misrepresentations” regarding a $150m fundraising for Rock Well Petroleum, a Canadian oil company.

Numis, led by its ambitious chief executive, Oliver Hemsley, said: “We think it’s a spurious claim and we will defend it robustly.”

In July and August 2007, Rock Well raised $150m in a private placing of shares with London-based investors, according to documents filed at the High Court last week. Numis acted for Rock Well. Fidelity, CQS and two smaller claimants, Oceanic and St Peter Port Capital, invested a total of $95m in the company.

12:05PM
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Right it is past midday
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Tony anything you want to take a look at?
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well Paul Diggle from Ambrian, another veteran sector analyst suggests Shire would be takeover target
Shire Plc (SHP:LSE): Last: 1,385, down 17 (-1.21%), High: 1,399, Low: 1,383, Volume: 192.56k
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aul diggle from Ambrian

•On Sunday, sanofi-aventis confirmed long-running rumours that it had made an offer of $69 per share or $18.5bn for Genzyme, a premium of 31% to the share price average in the month before press speculation about the approach. The price represents 35x Genzyme’s EPS guidance for 2010, a year depressed by the saga of manufacturing problems at its ERT facility. Sanofi believes that its offer is about 20x Wall Street estimates for 2011 EPS. The offer has been rejected by Genzyme management as opportunistic and inadequate. We would not be surprised at a modest increase in the sanofi offer and another bidder remains very possible.
•The most obvious points of comparison between the two companies are the ERT businesses, where Genzyme and Shire are the two market leaders and have directly competing products. Genzyme’s manufacturing difficulties have allowed Shire to narrow the gap between it and Genzyme. For 2010, Shire’s ERT business (Human Genetic Therapies) should post sales of $0.8bn (+45%), compared with Genzyme’s $1.7bn (-2%). ERT sales are 29% and 39% of the total sales of Shire and Genzyme, respectively. The ERT sector (and other orphan drugs) have become particular attractions to drug companies, as mainstream drug markets become more difficult, because they address small numbers of easily identified patients and can sustain very high prices. (Both GlaxoSmithKline and Pfizer have recently announced the establishment of in-house units to pursue such opportunities.)

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•The nature of the non-ERT activities of the companies differs considerably more. Shire is remarkably successful in developing better (patented) formulations of existing drugs, particularly in attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) and continues to generate very profitable growth from this portfolio. Genzyme’s non-ERT businesses are more research-based and much is made by the management (and analysts) of the potential for its multiple sclerosis drug alemtuzumab, which has been granted a ‘fast track’ review by the FDA.
•We would be very nervous about a direct ‘read across’ from the Genzyme bid to Shire’s valuation. However, its ERT business is a very attractive asset and the rest of the business is also growing strongly. This offer should at least be a reminder that Shire is one of the most attractive acquisition targets in the healthcare mid-cap arena.
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who for?
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well you never short of buyers in the pharma sector…a bit like the fund management industry
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did you also have something on chocolate
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and that hedge fund which bought all of the world’s supply?
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yep..chocfinger’s firm
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Armajaro Asset Management’s Richard Gower Will Become Chairman

^c.2010 Bloomberg News

By Claudia Carpenter

Aug. 31 (Bloomberg) — Armajaro Asset Management appointed Harry Morley as chief executive officer.

He replaces Ricahrd Gower, co-founder of Armajaro, who becomes chairman of Armajaro Asset Management, Armajaro said in a statement e-mailed today.

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i am not sure what it all means yet..am waiting for the arrival of Javier Blas into the office….but it follows a dip in performance after cocoa prices dropped after the firm’s big bullish bet on them
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yes
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there was a big piece in the Jornal about that
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Anthony Ward’s huge cocoa bet could be melting away.

Mr. Ward’s Armajaro Holdings Ltd. shook up the commodities market in July by buying a $1 billion cache of cocoa, enough to make 15 billion Hershey’s milk-chocolate bars. But since Mr. Ward made his audacious bet, cocoa prices have dropped 26%.

Two hedge funds run by Armajaro, including its CC+ Fund, which focuses on cocoa and coffee, lost about 6% of their value during the first two weeks of August, according to investors who have viewed the returns. And since then, prices have continued to decline, suggesting Mr. Ward could be ..

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hmmm
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that’s not good
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( guardian_sport RT @GuardianJamieJ: #chelsea Franco Di Santo 2 #wigan: official later #begovic deal dead . may be loan(s) away from bridge but that’s it )
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but prices are volatile and Mr Ward holds a lot of cocoa beans..the bet is not over
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although the guy above
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looks to have been shifted upstairs
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(Salif Diao has signed a two-year deal to return to Stoke according to sportinglife)
12:11PM
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OK
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it is time for a bit of small cap corner
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the main story today is Encore Oil
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they side well they drilled
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has been a success
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shares have moved up 20% odd
Encore Oil Plc (EO.:LSE): Last: 79.00, up 12.75 (+19.25%), High: 82.25, Low: 73.75, Volume: 10.68m
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and we have a bit of comment from the sector watcher
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Encore has scored another success in the North Sea, with the Cladhan appraisal well following up the Catcher discovery from earlier this year. Cladhan, in which EO has a 16.6% interest, was appraising a 2008 light oil discovery, with today’s announcement confirming net oil pay of 31 metres. Whilst EO says it is too early to give definitive guidance on recoverable reserves (until DSTs and further appraisal drilling have taken place), we understand that Oil In Place of 100-200m barrels was a ballpark range, and we’d estimate 30-60m barrels recoverable from this. Whilst we don’t actually cover EO, if we assume an NPV of $8-10/bbl for Cladhan, we see this as having the potential for adding up to 15p/share to EO’s valuation. Canadian-listed Sterling Resources (SLG CN) has a 40% stake and operatorship, with its share price spiking 23% yesterday on the news. Very good news for EO shareholders, and we believe there is still upside from both Catcher and Cladhan.
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and here is a bit more
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via Evolution
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As tipped in the press over the (long) weekend, EnCore Oil has announced a successful appraisal of the Cladhan 2008 oil discovery in the Northern North Sea block 210/29a on the western margin of the East Shetland Basin adjacent to the Heather, Hudson and Tern fields. The latest well has found 102 feet of net pay in Upper Jurassic channel sands and will be DST’d, followed by a sidetrack to establish the oil water contact. Results to date are at the upper end of expectations (EnCore has a 16.6% interest in the discovery) with press speculation of a 100-200mmbo find.
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and keeping with things oil
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the sector watcher reckons the only way Tullow
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will solve its issues in Uganda
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is to pay £300m
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and be done with it
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Tullow Oil – TLW LN
Sounds like TLW may have to pay the Ugandan authorities the $300m or so that Heritage Oil allegedly owes in CGT. The increasingly nasty dispute between Uganda and HOIL has now spread to TLW following the recent completion of the acquisition of the HOIL assets. Whether the tax is justified or not (and HOIL claims that in the original terms of its licence it most certainly is not), it highlights the inherent risks in countries like Uganda. TLW has to be careful – the last thing it needs is its farm-out deal with Total/CNOOC being put in jeopardy. We’d be buying TLW on weakness.

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sorry that should have been $300m
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and just for EE
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Dana
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bit of confusion yesterday
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(i have never heard of this club or this player but i thought it was important to point out that sportinglife is reporting that German side FC Augsburg have signed Dutch midfielder Kees ‘The Duck’ Kwakman from NAC Breda.)
Dana Petroleum PLC (DNX:LSE): Last: 1,810, no change, High: 1,817, Low: 1,801, Volume: 118.21k
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after a Korean newspaper claimed that Tom Cross, the Dana CEO, had told them
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a white knight counter bid was on the way
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and the Google translate seems to confirm that
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but we checked with the company
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and said it was false
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and we believe them
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yes we do
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because would Tom Cross ever do anything like talk to the media?
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of course not
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of course not
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he’s not that kind of CEO
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Article from 29 August in Joong Ang Ilbo interviewing Dana CEO Tom Cross

See this link:

http://sunday.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=18642

According to MergerMarket, Cross in the article indicates there is a
white knight. Google Translate does a terrible job of making any sense
to the report so have not attached to this message. 9th para down looks
like it discusses white knight and possible interest in Dana from
Chinese groups.

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anyway that’s the article
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if you want to have a look
12:16PM
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have to run soon but a couple of things
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Bob Doll from BlackRock, a Bull, offers some positive spin opn the US economy
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not easy to do at the moment
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here is part of his commentary
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- The critical issue for investors remains the question of whether the economy will experience the much-dreaded double dip. We are on the optimistic side of this debate and would point out that while the recovery has been slow, we have made significant progress.

- On a real basis, US gross domestic product has regained 70% of what was lost during the recession and on a nominal basis, GDP has regained all of it, meaning that the United States is in a nominal expansion.

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and just as a sign of the times…it seems citi now puts out a fertilser weekly
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urea looking solid apparently
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for those interested in fertiliser and that includes a lot of us now
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Fertiliser Pricing Weekly
N & P Still Solid; P On the Move?
Heidy Rehman
+971-4-509-9746
heidy.rehman@citi.com
 Urea Looking Solid — AG granular prices are up at US$305-310/t fob. Egyptian
prices are now at US$330-335/t fob (on the back of solid European demand). In
contrast, US prices have fallen below US$300/t and Yuzhny prices are now sub-
US$280/t fob (on the back of slower activity in the region’s key markets – Turkey
and Nigeria – as well as a public holiday). Demand overall appears to be strong and
FMB reports the likelihood of a urea deficit in September and October. This should
at least keep prices stable. On the supply side, Iran’s Pardis 2 plant is still stuttering
while a number of European plants are in turnaround. FMB also reports that a
number of Chinese plants in Shaanxi province may be forced to close due to stricter
emission controls. Three plants were closed in August but this may extend to all
plants in the region until the end of the year. Shaanxi has 13 plants with total
capacity of 4.1mt/yr (or almost 3% of the global market).
 Ammonia Still Firm — ME ammonia prices ticked up to US$315-345/t fob.
European demand, in particular, remains strong and is outstripping supply. On the
supply side, Iran’s Pardis 1 plant remains closed. We’d expect ongoing support to
pricing but with more clarity once the September Tampa (benchmark) price is
settled. We would expect an increase on August’s US$380/t cfr.
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Nitrates Sound — Nitrate demand continues to be robust. The market is awaiting
the announcement of September prices for CAN/AN. We would expect an increase
on August’s €173/t for CAN and €220/t for AN. UAN prices have firmed to €200/t.
We would be more cautious here on further material increases given evidence of
some softening in demand as prices approached this level.
 Phosphates Still On the Up— Moroccan and Tunisian DAP are up US$15-40/t to
US$515-520/t fob. US prices have also exceeded US$500/t fob. Supply remains
tight and demand is solid, e.g. from South America. To note, the Indian subsidy
US$500/t cfr cap has now removed straight DAP buyers from of the market.
Instead India is now looking to import NP/NPK complexes. Phos acid and rock
prices remain unchanged.
 Potash Prices Seeing Some Movement?— After a lacklustre period for pricing, FMB
reports that ICL (ICL.TA; NIS48.70; 2H) may be starting to raise European MOP
prices by €10-15/t. The increase would translate to a granular price of US$400/t cfr
and US$380/t cfr for standard MOP. Eyes will be on whether K+S (SDFG.DE;
€41.80; 2H) follows suit or waits until the end of the harvests. In Brazil demand has
been strong but prices fell in July & August due to oversupply. FMB reports that
major buyers are not paying more than US$370/t cfr. However, October prices are
yet to be set and suppliers may look to push prices. Otherwise the market remains
focused on the potential M&A and consolidation discussions.
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thrilling stuff
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fertiliser weekly
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will look out for that
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are we done?
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well potash has saved our summer for news editors
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that’s true
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potash silly season
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talking of which
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what’s this story in the Banker all about?
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The government is set to reap nearly £30bn from its emergency bailout of UK banks – a sum that would fund the country’s primary schools for a year – reveals The Banker in its September issue.

The return to profitability will represent a significant improvement on the estimated losses of £850bn, made at the height of the crisis, as the government propped up struggling institutions. The turnaround is down to a combination of recovering banking profits, rises in share prices and profits on fees charged for loans and guarantees.

UK taxpayers are currently breaking even on their 83.2% shareholding in Royal Bank of Scotland (RBS) and 41.3% shareholding in Lloyds TSB when dividends and other earnings are taken into account.

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assuming of course that they can find buyers for 80% of RBS
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and 41% of Lloyds
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in one go
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which I doubt
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(Thxs LE)
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well eventually they will float i presume but not until we see the results of the banking commission
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anyway
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let’s finish up
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(Sky Sports News reporting Alex Hleb and Jean Beausejour have both got work permits ahead of what look to be imminent moves to Birmingham.)
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on PAF
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I have a note Ticker for you
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from Collins Stewart
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A solid set of results meeting analyst’s expectations should see the shares better today.  Revenue up 29% to £68.5m from gold sales of 97.5 Koz due to rising gold price.. However costs were up 42%, principally due to higher electricity tariffs and security costs somewhat off set by higher grade from the Barberton operations. Total cash costs were $650/oz. PTP of £22.2m 36% increase YoY was marginally ahead of consensus. The company expects to begin plant construction shortly with first production at its Phoenix platinum project in the second half of 2011, where it has upgraded the resource by 15.8% to 469 koz of PGM. The company is debt free and has cash of £12.8m an increase of 435% YoY and a resource base of 4.6Moz of Gold.
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hope that helps
Pan African Resources Plc (PAF:LSE): Last: 6.75, up 0.44 (+6.97%), High: 6.90, Low: 6.75, Volume: 2.52m
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and on ARM
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if anyone was wondering about the move today
ARM Holdings PLC (ARM:LSE): Last: 352.10, up 14.3 (+4.23%), High: 355.90, Low: 338.00, Volume: 9.80m
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it seems to be read across from the Infineon deal
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Intel on Monday bought its way into the smartphone business with the $1.4bn acquisition of Infineon’s wireless chip operations.

The world’s biggest chipmaker gets its German rival’s baseband radio chips as part of the deal, which feature in Apple’s iPhone.

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not sure what the read across really is
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as ARM is pretty much bid proof
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but anyway
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Reuters likes the story
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Shares in ARM rise 5 percent to a one-month high, heading the UK top-flight gainers, after Intel buys Infineon’s wireless unit.
The $1.7 billion deal is seen as shining an M&A spotlight on the sector and good news for the British company in the short-term as Intel indicates it will continue to support the ARM chip designs as used by Infineon.
“Today’s reaction is generally around the fact there’s a potential M&A cycle happening, and one of the clear architectures you’d want in this space is probably ARM’s,” says analyst Lee Simpson at Jefferies & Co, who has “sell” recommendation on ARM.
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“It’s erroneous to think anybody would buy it, however, because it comes with a lot of traps in the valuation.”
He also says some observers will think this is an admission by Intel that they can’t compete in the smartphone arena without using some ARM technology.
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booted again…i am taking that as a signal..i have to return to the day job
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many many thanks for having me again
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it is always an honour
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(Firean – are you offering your services?)
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thanks Tony
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normal service will resume tomorrow
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Bryce will be back
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and hopefully the auto refresh will have gone
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depends on your definition of normal
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ciao
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and that is it for today
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thanks for logging into today
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and for your patience with the auto refresh
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which of course
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we were running a book on with some shady bookmaker
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until tomorrow
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bye
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