Markets Live chat transcript for the chat ending at 11:18 on 5 Aug 2010. Participants in this chat were: Bryce Elder Tony Tassell
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And welcome, as ever, to Markets Live
BE
Good morning room. And good morning, Tony.
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well it is busy day..lots to talk about…shall we start with the market
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Another results Thursday
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And, for the third day in a row, the FTSE’s going nowhere.
BE
August really is rubbish, isn’t it?
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thought this story should have been a bit of dampener
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HONG KONG/SHANGHAI, Aug 5 (Reuters) – Chinese shares
faltered on Thursday as property stocks weighed after Beijing
ordered new bank stress tests and tightened mortgage rules.
The move, which runs counter to speculation in some
quarters that China might ease some curbs before long to boost
the slowing economy, is a new demonstration that Beijing is
intent on fighting property speculation and deflating
record-high prices.
China’s banking regulator ordered lenders to test the
impact of a fall in house prices of up to 50 percent in certain
key cities where prices have risen sharply, sources told
Reuters.
The regulator also instructed banks to stop extending
mortgages to people buying their third homes in four of the
cities — Beijing, Shanghai, Shenzhen and Hangzhou, the sources
said.
Shanghai’s key index closed 0.7 percent lower at 2620.76
with banks and developers leading losses.
TT
that is one way to stop a property bubble..tell banks to stop making mortgages in four key cites
BE
Ah yes – though there’s also a contra bit of China Take news around today.
The Truth! Unvarnished. The price of rice always falls. Shanghai investors do not sell stocks. Torch protestors are vile.
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Take a look at this ….
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BEIJING (Dow Jones)–China’s insurance regulator on Thursday announced comprehensive rules governing insurers’ investments, which include allowing insurance companies to invest up to 20% of their assets in the stock market and up to 10% in real estate.
TT
yes..not exactly a consistent line
BE
Indeed. And insurers are able to stuff their books with orange juice companies on 90 times earnings.
TT
what is the FTSE doing now Bryce
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Big bored’s up 0.3%, or 18 points, at 5404
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And it’s difficult to avoid all the results, so let’s turn there shall we?
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shall we turn to Barclays – you know you want to
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Cue the music Bryce… Something stirring please
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yes we have a great British success story to celebrate
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yes it is that time again when Barclays team of John Varley and Diamond Bob unveil their results
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Diamond Bob has long been fustrated with elements of the media who just don’t get it – he genuinely believes BobBank’s bold move to takeover Lehman’s operations across the pond at the height of the credit crisis is a great British success… he really, truly believes this
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And who are we to argue?
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yes those namby-pambies who say that the deal effectively increases the UK’s bet on an unreformed and unrepentant investment banking industry for the personal gain of a few bankers… are well..just namby pambies
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after all, what could possibly go wrong …
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don’t get me started even more…
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yes of course..it is not as though financial crises come around that often and the UK taxpayer is left to pick up the tab is it…
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and we all know bankers would not take excessive risks in the pursuit of bonuses don’t we?
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and course the banks have to do something with all that money they are making from their retail operations.
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especially now that they enjoying huge profit margins thanks to the emergency measures to clean up from the last crisis and lower funding costs derived partly from an implicit guarantee of support from the government…
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there is so only much you can keep pouring into bonuses without it looking a little too whiffy political
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even if you try disguise things by quoting compensation ratios pre-impairments – ie pre all the mistakes the bankers have made.
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…you might be surprised just how much money they can pour into bonuses
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anyway spleen vented how the results…
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Yes. Spleen well and truly vented.
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apologies..had to get out of the system
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I hear the great British election caused havoc…it is all Gordon, Nick and Dave’s fault for not doing a deal more quickly….
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Bob Diamond, Barclays president and head of BarCap, blamed factors including the UK election and the passage of new financial regulation in the US for sluggish investment banking activity in May and June
TT
it is a genuine mixed mag..the results
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Hm. Have to say, the numbers don’t actually read very well no matter what the excuse is.
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Barclays rises 44% to £3.95bn in first half
By Adam Jones
Published: August 5 2010 08:47 | Last updated: August 5 2010 08:47
Barclays reported a 44 per cent increase in first-half profit on Thursday, although its results were clouded by second-quarter revenue and profit declines at Barclays Capital, its investment banking arm.
The banking group said pre-tax profit for the first six months of 2010 had been £3.95bn, up from £2.75bn a year earlier and better than analyst expectations. The increase was fuelled by a drop in loan loss charges, which fell by about a third on a year-on-year basis, reflecting the stabilising UK economy.
Adjusted pre-tax profit – a measure that strips out several distorting accounting items – rose 22 per cent to £2.96bn. John Varley, chief executive, said the group’s profit growth amid continued economic and market uncertainty had been “pretty reassuring”.
However, BarCap has been struggling to match its strong revenue performance in the first half of 2009. Its second-quarter top-line income, a revenue measure, was £3.28bn, 38 per cent down on the same period in 2009.
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Lots of peculiarities in there.
BE
Costs seem to be rather extreme.
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lots of writebacks in the value of their own credit in the investment banking operations
BE
BarCap underlying looks pretty weak.
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Even after the soft profit warning last month.
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the charges/gain on their own credit swung from $1.172bn hit in Q2 2009 to a £953m gain in Q2 2010
TT
our banking guys say though that was similar to HSBC’smoves
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pre-tax profits ar barcap including credit moves jumped from $140m to $1931m
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excluding credit, pre-tax profits fell from $1312m to $978m
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Monevator..yes they did take a hit Spain
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Let’s cut to the chase here. They beat on headline numbers but it’s a very low quality beat.
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Spain’s terrible. Bank of Bob’s either in a cyclical slowdown or is structurally unsound.
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well he says he compares favourably to other investment banks..like other peers, FICC was hit pretty
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that is fixed income, currency and commods operations
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here is some credit suisse reaction;
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1. Reported PBT £3.9bn. Excluding £0.9bn of own debt gains (we forecast £0.8bn) H1 2010 PBT was £3.1bn. We believe consensus was around £3.0bn and we were at £3.2bn. The figures include a collection of unexpected one-off items (a £146m pension credit and a £221m crystallisation of currency translation reserves, partly offset by a £194m charge on US economic sanctions) but these were largely offset by an additional £115m of credit market charges in Q2. Underlying therefore, we believe profits were broadly inline with expectations;
2. Impairment better. The group impairment charge was lower than forecast at £3.1bn versus our forecast of £3.2bn. This was despite a £0.6bn charge in Barclays Corporate Spain as the group increased its provision coverage from 30% to 41% over the half-year. The offset was in the Barclays Capital loan portfolio where there was a very small net release;
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3. Barclays Capital Q2 top-line revenues £3.3bn, down 15% on Q1. FICC was down 16%, Investment Banking down 17% and equities and prime services up 14%. This is a strong performance versus the peer group where fixed income and equities revenues were down about 35% on average. Versus our forecast and consensus, it was also around £0.1bn better;
4. But costs worse. At £9.7bn, group costs were up 20% y-o-y and about 2% higher than our estimates driven by sustained high levels of expense in Q2 relative to Q1. Indeed, Barclays Capital Q2 costs were £2.2bn versus Q1 at £2.1bn despite the revenue decline. This pushed the Barclays Capital Q2 cost to net income ratio (ex fair value gains) to 69% from 57% in Q1 2010. Costs outside Barclays Capital fell only slightly on Q1 and for H1 as a whole were up 12% on H1 2009.
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5. Equity tier 1 ratio 10%. This is up 20bps in Q2 with a big fall in the BlackRock stake (a 40bps impact on our estimates) offset by a £20bn reduction in RWA in the quarter. This was driven by a drop in the RWA held against the Lehman receivable (reversing the increase in Q1) and an £18bn fall in BaU RWA in Barclays Capital.
BE
BarCap earnings down 15% quarter on quarter ….. Worst performance for 18 months. Nuts to what peers are seeing, that HAS to be seen as a disappointment.
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One-off gains all over the place to prop up the headlines.
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I’m unconvinced. You can probably tell.
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Still, I’m in the minority judging by the sellside.
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well i think the one-off gains were genuine…given the swing in credit markets particularly
TT
here is Mike Trippitt of Oriel on the results
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On the one hand, numbers were broadly inline and the Barclays Capital revenue number was strong relative to peers. But Barclays Capital full year revenue forecast might still come under pressure, and costs are overshooting estimates. Indeed, H1 group costs were 20% higher y-o-y despite income (ex fair value gains) up 5% and top-line income down 15%. Furthermore, there remains relatively little revenue and pre-provision profit momentum outside of Barclays Capital and a declining contribution from the structural hedge will drag into 2011, in our view.
While the valuation is relatively attractive at 1 times current TNAV, the shares continue to trade on over 9 times our 2011E EPS, a sizeable premium to other European investment banks. Furthermore, our estimates remain about 8% below consensus on 2011 PBT. Overall we rate Barclays Outperform but we think there is better value elsewhere.
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apologies..that bit was from Credit Suisse..i am still learning on the job here
BE
(Bloody work experience trainees….)
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H110 results comment
• Group PBT +32% to £3,947m (£2,984m) versus our forecast £3,762m.
• However gains on fair value of own credit £851m (£893m loss in H109) were better than
expected, adjusting for this and credit related impairments (£311m) the underlying pretax
profit was slightly light at £3,339m compared with our estimate of £3,512m.
• Cost look heavier than forecast +21% to £9,720m (£8,051m) vs. £9,232 forecast.
• Basic +19% to EPS 20.9p (17.5p) versus slightly ahead of our 19.9p forecast.
• Barclays Capital top line income was £7,126m (£10,489m) 3% ahead of our £6,890m
forecast.
• Quarterly Barclays Capital top line progression was Q1=£3,845m, Q2 = £3,281m – a 15%
QoQ decline, better than US peers.
• Barclays Capital costs were however heavier than forecast +32% to £4,213m (£3,176m)
vs. our forecast £3,886m.
• Loan impairments totalled £3,080m including credit related impairments of £311m
Underlying charge of £2,769m better than our £3,019m forecast.
• ROE of 9.8% up a tad from 9.4% last time.
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And, for the full house, here’s some Michael Helsby now of Merrill
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BarCap’s U/L revenues came in at £7.1bn (BofAMLe £7.1bn). FICC revenues
held up better than at peers, at £4.9bn, a QoQ change of 15%. The reported
revenues benefited from £851mn gain on own debt, offsetting £65mn in credit
market writedowns. The Cost/Net Revenue ratio was 55% (BofAMLe: 57%, 1Q10:
58%). On outlook, July trends are similar to 1H10; volumes increased over July.
Bad debts. Barclays booked impairments of £3.1bn, which includes a £538mn
charge on Spanish wholesale exposure (BofAMLe £400mn for this; our group bad
debt forecast was £3.5bn). The big swing was in BarCap which was £309mn
versus £800mn estimate.
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On capital, the core tier 1 ratio was 10.0% vs our forecast of 9.5%. As expected
the core tier took a step back due to market-to-market impact of Blackrock
(negative ~50bps), however this was offset by RWAs of £395bn (BofAMLe
£426bn). RWAs were lower due to £14bn U/L business movements, £6bn FX and
£6bn Lehman rec’able reversal. Adjusted gross leverage was 20x, unchanged vs
2H10. With Barclays coming out extremely well in the stress tests and the Basel
III capital requirements for IBs being diluted we think that capital fears should
continue to ease.
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And some Ian Gordon of BNP Paribas
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Stated PBT GBP3,945m 14% ahead; ex-FV gains PBT GBP3,096m 3% ahead
A small, low quality, underlying earnings beat supported by lower impairments (down
32% vs H1 2009 despite adverse impact from Barclays Corporate in Spain). There is
also “noise“ from a large number of small (partially offsetting) non-recurring items.
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► Barclays Capital demonstrates resilience (again)
Barclays Capital PBT of GBP3,400m, 1% below our forecast of GBP3,426m, was at
the upper end of market expectations. Despite CFO Chris Lucas’ cautionary guidance
on 30 June 2010, Q2 2010 top-line revenues of GBP3.3bn were only 15% down vs
Q1 2010, making GBP7.1bn for H1 2010 – more resilient than peers and ahead of
market expectations. However, this was necessary to absorb a 33% increase in
expenses vs H1 2009, reflecting the build-out in Equities and Investment Banking.
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► Profitable, well capitalised, defensively positioned and cautious
As expected, Barclays Corporate reported losses in Continental Europe (GBP524m)
and New Markets (GBP232m). Elsewhere, operational performances were
reassuring. The core tier 1 capital ratio improved in the second quarter to 10.0%
which we regard as more than adequate for Barclays’ operational requirements.
However, we tacitly acknowledge that the organic capital build will continue. The Q2
2010 DPS of 1p is confirmed, making 2p for H1 2010 against an EPS of 20.9p.
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► Still trading at an unwarranted discount to peers
There may be an insufficient element of surprise in today’s numbers to act as a
catalyst for Barclays’ overdue re-rating, but we remain constructive. Q3 2010 will not
be a vintage quarter for investment banks in general, but we expect Barclays to
remain relatively resilient. Barclays still trades below 1.0x 2009 tNAV (of 337p), and
we reiterate our Outperform recommendation, with a 380p TP offering 12% upside.
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(Monkey – some eye-opening photos there..it sounds like missed quite a party and the chance to commiserate over the lack of maseratis)
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So: rubbish, funny numbers but the shares are still cheap.
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That’s the consensus, it appears.
Barclays PLC (BARC:LSE): Last: 329.10, down 10.75 (-3.16%), High: 336.25, Low: 327.50, Volume: 35.41m
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that is not an enthusiastic market reaction
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I wonder if Bob will be doing a press call on one of those new three-tonne hire bikes they’ve dotted around London?
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I’d rather like to see that.
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Anyway, bored with Barclays, let’s move on.
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yeah…how about some other slightly lacklustre results…
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Hang on – couple of things on the right to touch on first.
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(Monkey – on a prior gig…you should the twirls)
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Emptyend: yes, the Knoc meeting is apparently Friday
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And is, we hear, on neutral territory.
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They’re holding it outside the UK. Like a European Cup Final.
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@Bohemia – read the GKP statement and saw nothing much to change the story once more
BE
Though delighted to see the shares rattle higher, given our emotional hedge that is Muppet Alpha.
Gulf Keystone Petroleum Ltd (GKP:LSE): Last: 102.25, up 9.75 (+10.54%), High: 103.50, Low: 93.50, Volume: 7.13m
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Through a quid! That’ll make the people who refinanced this thing quite happy.
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Anyway, requests for further Lloyds comment post its decent numbers yesterday.
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i have some comment on lloyds for Number 1 from Mr Trippitt
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You seen anything interesting, Tony?
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More than just a recovery play
Lloyds Banking Group firmly established its credentials yesterday as a clear UK
recovery play. In addition, the outlook for the net interest margin together with strong
operational gearing will also provide substantial pre-impairment growth. The
combination of 2.50% margin and cost of risk in the 0.50%-0.60% range should
generate a 15% ROE and 40% cost income ratio in the medium term. We reiterate
our Buy recommendation and increase our target price to 100 pence.
TT
Increasing the target price to 100p
Revisions to 2010 and 2011 are relatively modest. The margin guidance really begins
to impact forecasts in 2012, where we have increased underlying pre-tax profit and
EPS by 17% to £9,457m (from £8,098m) and 9.6p (from 8.2p) respectively. The
combination of a 15% sustainable ROE and 10% cost of equity applied to the 2014
allocated core tier 1 capital underpins a valuation of 151p or 100p in present value
terms. We see the combination of wider margins, operational gearing and further
reductions in impairments as unbeatable across the sector.
BE
Actually, I’ve got one for the bears.
TT
good, something contrarian
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From Manus Costello, now at a boutique shop called Autonomous
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He raises the following points
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Key Questions for Management
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Why have you changed guidance on the fair value unwind from £500m pa to £2bn in 2011E and £1.3bn in 2012E?
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New mortgage spreads in the UK are twice the level of European peers. You are guiding for group NIM to improve even further. Do you worry that politicians might question the returns you are expecting to deliver, given your dominant market share?
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And remains neutral ….
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Reflecting the strength of the current mortgage repricing wave, we lift our NIM assumption for 2011 from 2% to 2.2%, but we are sceptical about the long term guidance of a 2.5% NIM. Lloyds gave no detail about the assumptions underlying this guidance apart from the base rate (4% in 2014). History shows that asset spreads will compress when interest rates rise, which will restrict further NIM expansion.
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In addition, our numbers do not currently assume any impact from the change in the guidance on the HBOS fair value unwind. This impact is material (it would increase 2011E by 23%) but we are reluctant to include the benefit without understanding the drivers behind it, and management has yet to give full details.
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Excluding the increase in fair value, our 2012E EPS is 7.9p (including the impact of the mortgage sale in 2012). Following the recent move in the stock, it now trades at a 2012 PE of 9.4x, and 1.3x 2010E TBVps. We see little value, and remain Neutral.
BE
As I say, that’s from Autonomous Research.
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Well worth a read – they do good work.
Lloyds Banking Group plc (LLOY:LSE): Last: 77.50, up 3.01 (+4.04%), High: 77.61, Low: 74.82, Volume: 118.26m
BE
Right – back to results?
TT
Unliever has been the other disappointment this morning
TT
always a bit tricky with Unilever now that they hve stopped giving guidance on earnings
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the analysts have more work to do
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how are the shares Bryce
Unilever PLC (ULVR:LSE): Last: 1,756, down 75 (-4.10%), High: 1,803, Low: 1,756, Volume: 2.77m
TT
here is Andrew Wood from Bernstein on the results
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Q2 was a mixed quarter, as volume growth (+5.7%) continued to be strong and ahead of consensus, but pricing (-2.0%) was more negative than expected…although at least it is now trending in the right direction and should return to positive territory by the end of the year. Still, pricing dragged organic growth (+3.6%) down, below expectations. Interestingly, despite some fears on the HPC business coming into the quarter, both the Personal Care and Home Care businesses were healthy and performed in-line with our estimates, as did Americas and Asia/Africa/CEE. The entire under-delivery on organic growth came from Western Europe and Food. Operating margin growth of +10bps in Q2 was disappointing, even though part of this was attributable to a higher-than-expected A&P investment (+140bps vs. our +120bps) as Unilever is clearly focused on building sustainable top-line momentum, particularly in difficult market conditions. We can accept this strategy although we had hoped that the remnants of the commodity tailwinds would have allowed for both strong margins and A&P support.
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…..Unilever’s stock has been somewhat lacklustre going into the quarter, dragged down by some disappointing results from some peers, so we would not expect an overly negative reaction to these slightly disappointing results…and we are still expecting an overall strong 2010 from Unilever, despite the very difficult consumer markets. We rate Unilever Outperform.
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As has become standard practice at Unilever, management avoided giving specific guidance…and instead reiterated a focus on “profitable volume growth, a steady improvement in operating margin and strong cash flow”. Despite this vague guidance, we expect a strong 2010 from Unilever…highlighting our view that Unilever can continue to deliver strong and stable medium-term operating performance.
BE
Did you know Unilever is putting GPS trackers in washing powder?
BE
Unilever, the company behind the washing product Omo …sold 50 “special” boxes of their product with a GPS inside.
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It works just like the Golden Tickets of Willy Wonka fame, except in this case, the ticket can tell the Oompa Loompas where you live.
When a winning box is bought, the GPS activates and leads an Omo team to the purchaser’s house in order to give them a prize – a video camera and a day at a Unilever-sponsored event.
BE
Majorly creepy. I don’t want to know Unilever to know where I live.
BE
Also, their Tube adverts in tie-up with Asos have a grocer’s apostrophe in the final sentence.
BE
Which, as a pedant, offends me deeply.
BE
Anyway, here’s a bit more on the results, rather than my ramblings.
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Fatdaz..the Aviva results were pretty good it seems
BE
JP Morgan provides a good summary of what went wrong
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Q210 disappoints on top line and margin, EPS in line. Unilever Q210
LFL of 3.6% was ahead of JPMe +2.9% but slightly below consensus of
3.9%. While volume growth was strong at 5.7% (JPMe 4.8%) pricing
remains a 2% drag (vs JPMe -1.9). Margin was below expectations up
10 bps (vs JPMe +60bps, consensus +40bps) though we would stress the
quality of delivery as A&P up 140bps (vs JPMe up 90bps). Reported
EPS of €0.37 was in line with JPMe and consensus.
BE
Volume share gains continues, outlook maintained on pricing, input
costs, savings ahead. Management noted that volume shares are up in
all regions, though the environment remains competitive as expected.
We think volume momentum remains positive (+7.6% in Q1, +5.7% in
Q2 despite tougher comps) and a good indicator of management’s
performance. Despite competitive pressures, management still expect
pricing to turn positive towards the end of the year and guides to 2%
input costs inflation (net of FX vs 2-3% prior). Besides we believe
management is well placed to over-deliver on its €1bn savings target
having realised €0.7bn in H1 already. As per the CFO comments, A&P
to sales ratio is likely to be down in H210 (on a strong comps).
BE
Western Europe weak, Strong emerging markets. Regionally,
emerging markets remained strong with Asia/Africa/CEE reporting
strong volume growth of 11.5% (JPMe 7.5%). Western Europe volumes
decline -0.4% with tough South Europe. Excluding Greece where market
volumes were ‘significantly down’, Western European volumes were up
(vs JPMe 2.0%). Americas reported 3.9% LFL in Q210 (volume: 5.0%)
with North Amercia volumes up c1.0% and strong La. Overall, organic
growth was 3.6% with volumes of 5.7%.
BE
Quality margin delivery helped by savings, strong investment in
A&P. Margins were up only 10bps, though we note the quality of
delivery with A&P up 140bps (vs JPMe +90bps). Margin performance
was strong in WE +120bps though margins were down 40bps in
Americas and down 10bps in A/A/CEE on higher A&P reinvestments.
BE
And, since it was mentioned above, let’s do Aviva as well.
TT
it is hard to get excited about an insurance company’s results but..
TT
reaction pretty positive across the board
TT
to their new IFRS basis results
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that pretend that insurance companies are just like other companies.. a company that you dont have to be an actuary to understand
TT
here is panmure on the results
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(Bloomberg) — Aviva Plc, the U.K.’s second-biggest insurer, said first-half profit rose 21 percent, beating analysts’ estimates, as it earned more from selling long-term savings products.
Operating profit climbed to 1.27 billion pounds ($2 billion), the London-based company said today in a statement. That beat the 1.17 billion-pound estimate of six analysts surveyed by Bloomberg. Net income rose to 1.08 billion pounds from 675 million pounds a year earlier.
Aviva “grew sales for the third consecutive quarter and improved the group’s margin,” Chief Executive Officer Andrew Moss said in the statement. “We remain alert to the macroeconomic environment and risks in financial markets.”
Aviva is increasing sales of life and pension products in Europe as it seeks to raise its dividend after a 33 percent cut last year. Like U.K. competitors Standard Life Plc and Legal & General Group Plc, the insurer is selling products with fewer guarantees to customers so it can reduce the amount of capital it’s required to hold in reserve.
Aviva has risen 12 percent in the past three months, the biggest increase in the FTSE ASX Life Insurance Index, as investors speculated the firm would raise its divided.
The insurer raised its half-year payout to investors to 9.5 pence a share from 9 pence a share a year earlier, matching the analysts’ estimate. The six-month dividend was 13.1 pence in 2008
TT
should make an intersting contrast with the Pru results…
TT
what are the shares doing
Aviva Plc (AV.:LSE): Last: 396.90, up 29 (+7.88%), High: 398.90, Low: 368.90, Volume: 13.57m
BE
Blimey – that’s quite a gain.
Prudential Plc (PRU:LSE): Last: 581.50, up 13 (+2.29%), High: 582.50, Low: 566.50, Volume: 2.44m
TT
i guess the investment rule that applies to banks also applies to insurers
TT
always go for the boring one
BE
Ok – enough of the results I think. Though feel free to lodge requests if we’ve missed your pet stock this morning.
TT
maybe something warm and raw to offer the rotr
RAW is market chatter – information that has not been formally tested through traditional journalistic channels (PRs etc). The story might be complete rubbish, but if we believe there is some substance to it we will say so. Either way, Reader Beware.
BE
People really do seem to like this Redrow rumour
Redrow PLC (RDW:LSE): Last: 120.60, up 4.9 (+4.24%), High: 121.50, Low: 116.20, Volume: 619.54k
BE
The rumour being that Steve Morgan, its founder and 30% shareholder, is looking to take it private.
TT
(i think technique is over-rated in washing..you just need to invest in a miele and throw everything in)
BE
Now, we made all the relevant calls on this story last night, as you would expect.
BE
And were steered away by both the

and the

sides
BE
Some people are arguing that this might simply mean that things are nascent, and a price rise could blow it apart.
BE
There’s also an idea that Tosca could be on board with a buyout
BE
But, according to the shareholder register in front of me, Tosca’s down to 4.9%
BE
Having sold down in November
BE
Anyway, it’s one for the watch list.
BE
Been hearing about a deal in the housebuilding sector for ages. This might be it. Then again, it might not.
TT
(just on the washing debate..you cannot beat Elephant Gold washing power from PZ Cussons)
BE
(Indeterminate raw. Copyright, ML.)
BE
Couple of other things to touch on among our favourite bid tales …..
BE
Telecity strong yet again.
Telecity Group Plc (TCY:LSE): Last: 442.30, up 17.6 (+4.14%), High: 446.60, Low: 416.50, Volume: 227.74k
BE
That seems to be on the back of the recent management roadshow rather than anything more rumourtrage.
BE
Few analyst notes around talking up the secular growth story.
TT
here is PiperJaffray’s conclusion
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Telecity’s 1H10 results were ahead of expectations, as the operational leverage from
occupancy increasing in new high-density datacentres was clear. The acquisition of
IFL and the capacity addition in Stockholm are also incremental positives. We
increase our price target to 531p (from 496p) reflecting the accelerated margins and
new capacity. We retain our Overweight rating.
BE
There is scope for further margin expansion despite slowing
pricing. Barriers to entry are holding firm. Telecity may become
increasingly acquisitive. The use of leverage will make deals
enhancing. 18.1x CY 11E P/E can be justified by the rare structural
growth. However, the absence of upgrades may hold back the
shares. HOLD.
BE
As for the bid, the CEO’s been buying as Soundbuy notes
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Which makes some people think that, while there was a bidder sniffing around once, they’ve now walked.
BE
And lastly, on the subject of director buying breaking bid chatter
ARM Holdings PLC (ARM:LSE): Last: 328.00, up 12.5 (+3.96%), High: 328.00, Low: 316.00, Volume: 3.86m
BE
That rally seems to be founded on results from MIPS overnight
BE
Which is one of its main US rivals
TT
(i like the Homer line: You don’t like your job, you don’t strike. You go in every day and do it really half-assed. That’s the American way. “
TT
how about webvan…i have heard back from Clive Black of Shore Capital following the analyst visit to Ocado’s Hatfield facility
TT
it turns out he did not go as we suggested the other day..it was his colleague…this is the report back
TT
My colleague Darren Shirley visited Hatfield this time; we aren’t planning to release anything additionally given that I had already been to the site earlier in the year.
Little new came out of the tour or the presentations to our minds. Therefore, we stand by what we put together in our longer piece; Ocado is interesting, distinctive and friendly to customers but it is just not worth anywhere near the £1bn+ management originally aspired to: the fact that the shares are lower since the visit also speaks volumes. We now look forward to the publication of results whereby we can start to firm up models and make more robust estimates as to company profits (eventually) and so valuation. We worry that management has a detached view of the world and unless they adjust their expectations, they will continue to scratch their heads as to why we and others think the stock is grossly overvalued.
TT
a detached view of the world…interesting..
TT
i guess that gives a different perspective
BE
That’s wonderfully damning.
Ocado Group PLC (OCDO:LSE): Last: 161.50, no change, High: 163.00, Low: 161.50, Volume: 130.63k
TT
Nately..that is classic..i had forgotten that one
BE
ROTR: we invite and welcome your favourite Simpsons quote.
BE
Meanwhile, over the left side of the board, want to do some smallcap corner?
TT
go ahead bryce..feed the beast
TT
what is up in small-caps
BE
Couple of interesting developments in old favourites.
BE
Firstly, Polo Resources
BE
Up 5% at 6.5p at the middle
BE
After management confirmed the special divi of 3p per share.
TT
(courtesy of google..homer on stockmarket speculating: “For your information, I just made a COOL 25 dollars playing the stock market. Buy high and sell low. That’s my motto. I’m going to quit my job and become … … the stock market guy.)
BE
And, shortly after, Weiss raises its stake to 10.7%
BE
Weiss being the activists who we understand are quietly trying to force a break-up of this thing.
BE
Quick comment from Liberum on developments.
BE
The Board confirms it will pay a special dividend of
3p per share. This is conditional upon the completion of the sale of the Group’s interest in Extract Resources
Limited, which is expected to occur on or before 13 August 2010, and the Company receiving the cash
proceeds of such sale. The ex dividend date has been set at 18th August with payment on 27 August. In
addition the Board has resolved to establish a share buyback programme. An independent advisory committee
will have the discretion to buy up 10% of issued shares over the next 12 months.
BE
Liberum View: The dividend
announcement firms up the Boards stance following Weiss Asset Management’s call for an EGM re a tender
offer. The announcement of a share buyback programme is a positive and should help narrow/control the
discount going forward. At present there is plenty of cash to implement this programme. Our current eNAV is
8.16p, POL currently trades around 6.15p, a 24.6% discount to this eNAV. Post 3p dividend payment, and
assuming the price also falls by 3p, POL will trade on a 38.9% discount, we believe remains too wide.
BE
(@Lady E: have you? Do tell him we say hello.)
BE
And secondly, on the subject of stakebuilding.
BE
Now, there have been all sorts of bid rumours around the traps this week.
BE
So it’s interesting, in that context, to see Peter Levine raising his stake
BE
The former Imperial Energy founder
TT
(good one Tigger..a gold star)
BE
Ok -enough smalls I think. What now?
TT
Bank of England holds rates steady as expected
LONDON, Aug 5 (Reuters) – The Bank of England kept interest
rates at a record-low 0.5 percent on Thursday and announced no
new quantitative easing purchases, a decision universally
expected in a Reuters poll of economists.
None of the 61 economists polled last week expected a change
in policy, and most did not expect a rise in interest rates
until April next year at the earliest.
BE
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
TT
so no great surprises then…but Kames Knightley at ING has managed to draw some thoughts
TT
The Bank of England has left monetary policy unchanged with no statement. Andrew Sentance remains the only clear hawk within the bank at this stage, arguing that emergency levels of interest rates are no longer needed now that the economy is growing. However, the rest of the committee are more cautious, citing the impending fiscal tightening and the drag that this will have on economic activity. Indeed, BoE Governor King, stated last week that “we judge at present it is right to keep our foot firmly on the accelerator in order to stimulate the economy. The debate is about the appropriate degree of stimulus, not about applying the brakes”.
While the recent GDP data was incredibly strong, we have doubts over how sustainable this is. The purchasing managers’ indices have dipped in recent months while the British Chambers of Commerce survey is not pointing to any further acceleration. We also have to consider the impact from the government’s austerity measure, which will soon be kicking in. This is going to produce a fiscal drag equivalent to around 8% of GDP, which will be a massive headwind to growth. Moreover, significant job losses in public sector employment (somewhere in the region of 500,000-800,000 workers) is going to largely offset private sector employment gains, which will keep confidence and spending subdued. This places a massive burden on investment, but with credit still restricted, as highlighted by weak lending growth and the BoE’s own credit conditions survey, we are not particularly confident on investment filling the gap.
TT
Consequently, our base case remains subdued growth of the order of 1-2% over the next three years, which will continue to depress inflation pressures. Moreover, a weak labour market and declining inflation expectations (both market and consumer) should limit pay rises, therefore helping to offset any upside impetus from the VAT hike to 20% from January next year. We therefore doubt the BoE will consider tightening monetary policy before the middle of next year, especially with weaker growth figures out of the US and Asia. Moreover, should fiscal tightening exert more of a brake, the BoE will likely stand ready to offer more stimulus. Indeed, King again reiterated that the BoE are prepared to move policy “in either direction as seems appropriate.
BE
Ok. Not reading any of that.
TT
i think we should turn to one of our favourite strategists – Albert Edwards, the permabear
BE
Hooray! That promises to be a bit more lively.
TT
we are lucky to have him apparently after his last holiday…
TT
from this morning’s missive
TT
I almost didnt make it back from my summer holiday. After a pleasant morning on the
beach my wife and I were trudging back up the hill to our villa, when I noticed that my
wedding ring seemed to have disappeared (!!!). Despite the 35c heat, the air around Rowan
seemed to go remarkably chilly. Retracing our steps to the butcher, baker and candlestick
maker we arrived back to our spot by the sun beds. No luck. Donning my snorkel, I was sent
back into the sea until I found it. Luckily Rowan spotted it on the shoreline before my entire
body shrivelled up. Phew! Anyway, one of my colleagues pointed out it wasn’t really my fault
because Rowan had been encouraging me to lose weight. So again, it is also not my fault
that my wedding ring has had to be moved to my middle finger on my left hand. Who can
guess at the consequences of this? Who knows how many women will fail to realise I am
married and proposition me. Other equity bears, after all, get invited to high profile celebrity
parties by Roman Abramovich (see Business Insider 6 Jan – link). I await the invitations.
TT
on a more serious note..he has expanded on his view that he could turn bullish on equities
TT
As Japanese bond yields slide back below 1% and the US 10y consolidates below 3% it is
clear that bond investors, at least, are embracing our Ice Age vision. History suggests that
equity markets are slower to react and so it is again. Let’s keep it simple. Unprecedented
strong monetary and fiscal stimulus has produced an unprecedentedly weak recovery.
Investors will soon have a once in a lifetime opportunity to invest in equities at bargain
basement valuations. Cheap equities will prove a good investment as inflation takes off.
TT
and lower down in the note
TT
The de-rating in Western equities continues to rhyme in a surprisingly familiar way to what we
experienced in Japan a decade ago (see chart below). Another cyclical rally has led to a
temporary pause in the structural de-rating process – just as it did in Japan a decade ago. US
equities looked cheap versus bonds last year, but should look even cheaper next year!
I was out for drinks the other day with some of my former Kleinwort’s colleagues and stayed
on till late chatting with our former Japanese Strategy guru, Peter Tasker – who incidentally
writes another excellent article in today’s Financial Times Insight column, link. One of the
things we concluded was that investors are finally accepting that what is going on in the West
is indeed very similar to Japan a decade ago. For years my attempts to draw this parallel have
been met with hoots of derision – finally the penny is dropping
TT
Inflation continues to ebb away. In Japan core CPI deflation, at -1.5% is the worst on record.
While in the US, the corporate sector is seeing its weakest pricing power on record – even
worse than that seen in the deflationary maelstrom during the Asian crisis (see chart below).
We have consistently articulated the view that the severity of the current situation will only be
appreciated when this current cycle ends in failure – and that is not too far away. That will be
the time that equities will plunge to new lows. And that, not March 2009, will will provide the
buying opportunity of a generation to hedge against the coming Great Inflation.
TT
nice to get a plug in for Peter Tasker…easily the most readable writer/analyst on Japan
TT
he writes very good detective novels too..i finished Samurai Boogie the other day
BE
Really. We’re getting so many insights today.
BE
Ok – we’re 11 minutes overtime already.
BE
And, judging by the ROTR, there’s nothing crucial we haven’t mentioned.
BE
Oh – hang on – one of our regulars was talking about Soco ……
TT
(Lady E..his other novels are Dragon Dance (2003), The Buddha Kiss (1997), Silent Thunder (1992)
Soco International PLC (SIA:LSE): Last: 458.50, up 14 (+3.15%), High: 458.50, Low: 446.50, Volume: 434.73k
BE
There’s a very bullish RBC note in circulation
BE
SOCO’s high-risk, high-reward exploration drilling
campaign in the DRC could almost double our 575p NAV.
BE
(And if yer ma had baas she’d etc etc….)
BE
In mid to late August, SOCO is scheduled to announce the result of Nganga-1;
the first well in a high-risk, high-reward, exploration drilling campaign onshore
the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC), that has the potential to nearly double
our SOCO NAV.
BE
We have increased our NAV and Target Price to 575p/share , following a detailed
review of the company’s DRC operation, and in this report we provide an
introduction to the frontier province and outline the potential of SOCO’s
three-well campaign.
TT
(fatdaz..for a detective novel i recommend The Silence of the Rain, by Luiz Alfredo Garcia-Roza )
BE
Under the radar: While the market focused on the extension of Uganda’s Lake
Albert oil play into eastern DRC, a number of oil companies, including SOCO,
pushed ahead with exploration campaigns in the Coastal Basin, western DRC,
that are targeting a southerly extension of the M’Boundi oil play.
BE
Scale: SOCO (65%) is targeting three large, 200mmbbl, prospects that could add
525p/share, or 90%, to our NAV.
Valuable barrels: The fiscal terms in the DRC are more attractive than those in
neighbouring Congo Brazzaville and Uganda. We estimate that a discovery on
SOCO’s Nganzi block could be worth ~$11/bbl, on a working interest basis.
No cash constraints: Onshore drilling is relatively low cost and SOCO is well
financed; we estimate the company ended H1/10 with cash of $230m.
Management has, however, negotiated a partial carry through its DRC drilling
campaign – INPEX Corp will pay 40% of the ($50-60m) exploration costs to earn
a 20% stake in the Nganzi PSC. In addition, the proposed ($105m) sale of
SOCO’s non-core Thai operations should inject cash in H2/10.
BE
Downside: Although we would rank SOCO’s exploration drilling campaign as
high-risk – the probabilities of success range from 10-20%, we believe there is
limited downside risk in the stock at 426p. In the event that the three-well
campaign is unsuccessful we would cut our NAV by 81p/share, or 12%, to
~500p/share.
Do not forget Vietnam: Finally, we would note that SOCO’s 2010 appraisal
campaigns in Vietnam also expose shareholders to material upside. Totally
unrisked we estimate this year’s campaigns – which include the ongoing
high-impact TGD-2 well – could add ~90p/share to our NAV. An unsuccessful
well on TGD would cut 41p/share from our NAV.
TT
(fatdaz..not yet..will look it up.)
BE
Of course, people still trying to pick the next target in this sector, and Soco’s one of the names that comes up habitually.
BE
Anyway, I think that’ll do for today.
TT
well we went a bit off piste..but hey its august
BE
Indeed. We take the comments where we find them during the dog days of summer.
BE
And on that note, thanks Rabble for all your contributions.
TT
thanks for having me again..it has been an honour
BE
Soundbuy: nothing to say on the Falklanders right now I’m afraid. The signal to noise ratio makes it rather difficult to say anything on those, in fact.
BE
We’ll see you all again tomorrow.