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Markets live transcript 14 Dec 2009

Markets live chat transcript for the chat ending at 12:13 on 14 Dec 2009. Participants in this chat were: Neil Hume, FT Miles Johnson, FT

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hey there
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good morning
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welcome
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and time time for Markets Live
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FT Alphaville’s daily market round up
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and what a busy morning
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for a Monday in December
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Doobai rescued by Abu Dhabi
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although the cost of that are not clear
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a smattering of M&A
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more banker bonus disquiet
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some interesting news out of British Airways
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and there is still the emergency Greek banks stuff to come
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and
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on top of all that
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a software release for AV
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which we are having a few probs with
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so apologies
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for the lack of 6am cut
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or a version of it on the site
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and a few other funny bits and pieces
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anyway
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Andrew Betts of Asanka
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is here now
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sorted things out
11:05AM
NH
(lorcan – you can’t sadly. Falcon, the FT’s new design does not permit it)
MJ
Right I am in
MJ
Morning all
NH
hello Miles
MJ
it has been hectic this morning
MJ
although
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the market reaction is slightly disappointing IMO
MJ
A bit limp
MJ
looked like the FTSE was going to fly at the opening
NH
yes
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I think is is a bit of damp squib
MJ
got up to 5,330
MJ
but has drifted back
MJ
currently 45 points at 5,306
NH
hmm surprised by that
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thought the Doobai bailout would have put a rocket under stocks
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MJ
well, it still might
MJ
once Wall Street opens up
11:07AM
NH
right
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let’s have a quick look at Lloyds
NH
right issue take up announced this morning
MJ
Oh yes
NH
and we had a 95% take up
MJ

Results of Rights Issue:
£13.5bn Fully Underwritten Rights Issue
95.314% take-up (34,794,322,592 shares)
Rump Placement Size:
1,710,765,987 Shares / c. £962m
(100% Primary)
NH
rump is currently being placed
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fact I hear it has been placed
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at 56p
MJ
hmmm
MJ
they traded at 59p first thing
MJ
Would appear they struggled to shift it
NH
yeah
11:09AM
NH
right, what shall we look at?
MJ
We should look over the Dubai effect
MJ
a bit more closely
MJ
because it has lifted a few stocks
MJ
such as the LSE
London Stock Exchange Group (LSE:LSE): Last: 750.00, up 55.5 (+7.99%), High: 750.00, Low: 705.00, Volume: 689.86k
MJ
and Standard Chartered
Standard Chartered (STAN:LSE): Last: 1,568, up 58 (+3.84%), High: 1,592, Low: 1,564, Volume: 2.24m
NH
actually
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Stan Chart also been helped by a Credit Suisse upgrade
MJ
Jonathan Pierce?
NH
I think so
NH
here’s the note
NH
We upgrade to Outperform (from Neutral), raise our target price to
2000p (from 1600p), and upgrade our 2010E Eps by c19%. Our forecast
upgrades result from our greater confidence on revenue progression as
rising rates lead to NIM improvement from 2010E onwards, wealth
management sales continue their improving trend, and the Wholesale Bank
maintains its revenue momentum on the back of economic improvement.
NH
A positive trading update. The key takeaways in our view were the
comforting statement on the group’s Dubai exposure with the group stating
that they do not expect any material impairment, given CRE exposure in the
UAE of just US$400m. The statement also encouragingly highlighted
continued revenue momentum in the Wholesale bank and further
improvement in Consumer banking revenues. Standard Chartered has
underperformed the European banks by around 5% over the past three
weeks, which we now expect to reverse following this trading update.
NH
Rising rates should support margin improvement. With a core funding
ratio of c77% at end 2008A on our estimates, Standard Chartered screens
as one of the best funded banks in the European Bank sector. This places
the group well to benefit once rates begin to rise, which our economists
expect from early 2010 in Korea, China, India and Indonesia. We now
forecast NIM improving by c12bps in 2010E and c15bps in 2011E as a result.
NH
Valuation: Standard Chartered currently trades on around 2.3x 2010E
TNAV. We see the premium to the European banks sector on c1.5x TNAV
as justified given the attractive geographic focus, balance sheet strength and
higher RoTE generation. We have revised our target price to 2000p, set in
reference to our P/TNAV model, based on our 2011E RoTE of 22%, CoE of
10% and growth of 3.5%. This implies c38% potential upside to the current
share price.
MJ
thanks for that
MJ
Gulf markets also reacted well to the news
NH
(yes Lemmy and then Doobai happened. always the way!)
MJ
The Dubai stock index rose the most in 14 months
MJ
and Abu Dhabi’s index gained 8 per cent
MJ
five-year CDS on Dubai dropped around 120 basis points to just over 400bps
NH
Still, I don’t think this is going to do that much to repair Dubai’s reputation.
NH
all this flip flopping
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and uncertainty
MJ
Who would want to lend Dubai-related companies money now?
MJ
And the whole process was very opaque
NH
Bond holders are going to be angry about the year-end stress, at the very least.
MJ
I don’t see why they didn’t just come out earlier and say this would happen
MJ
Or for the Dubai government to have said something more reassuring last week
NH
Maybe they thought people would be happier at the surprise.
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or
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maybe
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Abu Dhabi
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didn’t decide to back them
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until the weekend
MJ
as the FT story notes this morning, things are still very bad
MJ
People close to Nakheel say it owes as much as Dh11bn ($3bn) to contractors even after agreeing cuts of about 25 per cent with some suppliers in the spring. Cash flow has dried up as property prices in Dubai have halved.
MJ
And the rating agencies are not convinced
MJ
Dec. 14 (Bloomberg) — Dubai ’s state-linked companies may not see their debt ratings increased after the emirate received $10 billion from larger neighbor Abu Dhabi to support debt repayments, Standard & Poor’s said.
MJ
Anyway, there is some interesting comment on this
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go on
MJ
Luis Costa, EM debt strategist at Commerzbank is asking questions about timing
MJ
and about how much of the Nakheel debt was bought by Dubai World
MJ
during the last couple of weeks.
NH
Would be good to see some of that.
MJ
It is a massive price volatility in instruments that already naturally trade with pretty wide bid/ask spreads. The US$10bn rescue package (if fully applied to cover Dubai World refinancing pressure) can fully meet Dubai World external debt maturing in 2010 (Limitless, US$1.2bn in March; Nakheel, US$0.98bn in May; and Dubai World, US$2.1bn in June). We wonder how much of the Nakheel 09s and 11s was bought back by Dubai World during this three-week period of intense price depression, without giving any re-assurance to bondholders. Difficult to imagine that the emergency rescue package was not known by the Dubai Financial Authority for at least a week or so. Imagine the number of investors who had to offload their Nakheel 09s and 11s bonds in the middle of Dubai sell-off noise, probably constrained by end-of-year pressure to close their books.
NH
hmmm
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now that is interesting
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very interesting
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Dubai
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using the sell off
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to buy back debt
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at a big discount
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that’s quite a claim
MJ
Well, I think he is asking questions more than saying that is what happened
MJ
But I think we would all like to hear some answers
11:16AM
NH
And while we are on Dubai, we should mention that Gartmore is trading below its IPO price this morning.
MJ
The link here being
MJ
that Gartmore blamed the Dubai debt kafuffle for messing up the IPO
NH
Which we think is a load of rubbish. Utter tosh.
MJ
This IPO disappointed due to price, not because of Dubai
NH
Dubai appears to be fast becoming a catch all excuse.
MJ
So, if your bank writes to you asking why you are late on your mortgage payments
MJ
you know what to say
NH
(Tuna i was. a jig round the living room. shocked the life out of the kids)
NH
Dubai
MJ
Or if you are late for a meeting
MJ
or forget to feed your neighbours cat
MJ
International leaders were unable to come to an agreement at the Copenhagen summit
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due to the turmoil unleashed by the Nakheel debt standstill
MJ
Olly from X Factor has released a statement saying he failed to win the competition as voters took fright at the mounting debt crisis in the Gulf
MJ
This excuse is fast wearing thin
NH
it is
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poor Olly
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though
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and who in their right mind
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put Ryan Giggs
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and sporst PERSONALITY of the year
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together
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in the same sentance
MJ
Hmmm
MJ
Maybe we should leave that one
11:19AM
MJ
Neil has just popped off to get this Tullet story
NH
can’t find it
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not a Kleinman wire story
MJ
ah well
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can’t find it
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if anyone has a link
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NH
thank you Tuna
MJ
(@ Pakora – does look like a bit of a nightmare for the marketing folk at Gillette)
11:21AM
NH
Right
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Tullett stuff is on the TV
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at Sky now
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here’s the flash
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TULLET PREBON LOOKING TO RELOCATE CORP. HEADQUARTERS, SKY SAYS
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looking?
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empty threat
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or will they actually do it?
MJ
What, to Switzerland? I don’t buy it
NH
IDB’s in the Swiss cantons
MJ
I can’t see London crying about a couple of IDBs jumping ship
NH
cant see that myself
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what was it Paul called them?
MJ
The missing link
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yes
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and that comment was made by Murph
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and thoughts on that
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please email him
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not use
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paul.murphy@ft.com
11:23AM
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Right
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some more breaking news
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BWIN DENIES MERGER TALKS WITH PARTYGAMING, APA REPORTS :BWIN AV
Muppet stock. PartyGaming would be a penny dreadful, but for a share consolidation.
PartyGaming (PRTY:LSE): Last: 258.90, up 2.4 (+0.94%), High: 268.00, Low: 257.30, Volume: 682.00k
MJ
Old system message that
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funny though
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now
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I did think we would see a statement this morning
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weekend press
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seemed convinced something was about to break
MJ
Appears not
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but analysts
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have been looking at the merits of a deal
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here’s KBC Peel Hunt
NH
Press speculation that Party and Bwin have held informal
talks is not a surprise. Indeed, most of the online operators
regularly speak on an informal basis. It seems inevitable
that there will be substantial online corporate activity
whether or not it is Bwin or now. As a major online player
and with an ambitious management team, PartyGaming is a
valuable strategic asset.
NH
Press speculation. There was lots of press comment over the weekend
suggesting that Bwin and PartyGaming have held informal merger talks. This
doesn’t come as a surprise as online groups frequently talk informally. However,
we believe that the recent sector consolidation will gain momentum through 2010
and it is only a matter of time before we see further sizable deals.
NH
An attractive combination. A merger between Bwin and PartyGaming would
appear to make sound strategic sense. The combined entity would have an
attractive product and geographic mix and forecast net gaming revenues of
c US $1.25bn in 2010. The enlarged group would also have a market leading
position in all product areas (outside of the two US facing poker offerings of
Poker Stars and Full Tilt).
NH
Substantial cost savings. We estimate that a combined Bwin/Party would have
c $400m of personnel and administration costs from which to obtain savings
from. This is before media buying and other savings derived from economies of
scale. Therefore, it would not appear unreasonable to expect them to achieve a
minimum of $50m of annual cost savings. Pro forma forecast EBITDA (adjusted)
for the enlarged entity would be c. $375m before any cost savings.
 Simply a matter of time. The combination of mature markets, new markets
opening up and substantial cost savings make industry consolidation a
compelling theme. We have already see Bwin acquire Gioco for its geographic
strength in Italy, while PartyGaming purchased Cashcade to develop its bingo
presence. Bwin’s strength in sports means that it would be an ideal partner for
Party. But even if it is not Bwin and Party, there will be further deals. Given
Party’s market position and management ambition we continue to rate the
shares a Buy.
NH
and Bryce
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has just sent a note from Goldman
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which I can put up
NH
News
The Sunday Times (December 13) reported that PartyGaming is in merger
talks with bwin. According to the article, the deal would be structured as a
merger of equals, if it were to occur. However, discussions are reportedly
at an early stage and there is no certainty that a deal would be agreed.
PartyGaming is expected to be asked by the Takeover Panel to clarify the
position before the market opens on Monday morning, December 14.
NH
Analysis
Clearly, as yet, this is only press speculation. However, if it were to occur,
we believe such a deal would make strategic sense as it would provide
PRTY with a leading sportsbook product and the combined entity would be
the largest poker operator outside the US (with peak traffic of c.12000, vs.
c.8000 for Playtech’s iPoker, which is the current leader). The breakdown in
current market cap is broadly similar to the breakdown of expected 2010
EBITDA between both companies (45/55 ratio for PRTY/bwin)
NH
As of
December 11, PartyGaming had a market cap of €1.15 bn with bwin at €1.4
bn. Based on Reuters consensus, PartyGaming is expected to generate
2010 EBITDA of €108 mn (margin: 30%) and bwin is expected to generate
EBITDA of €135 mn (margin: 26%). The combined entity would also
potentially benefit from various cost synergies, mainly from administrative
and back office expenses. Moreover, any potential accretion would be
magnified if the US online poker and casino markets are both legalized
(see our June 29, 2009 report, Focus on the US; Playtech pricing least
optionality, in our view).
NH
Implications
If this speculation is confirmed, we would anticipate a positive reaction
from both stocks. We would also expect other stocks within the online
gaming sector to rally as this news reignites consolidation expectations.
We retain our estimates and price targets for bwin and PRTY. We have a
Buy rating on bwin and Neutral rating on PRTY.
MJ
Thanks for that
11:27AM
MJ
There is a note from Oriel about the stocks most likely to benefit from the Dubai news
MJ
forgot to put it up earlier
MJ
Abu Dhabi has stepped in with $10bn to help Dubai manage its debts

$4.1bn will be used immediately to bail out the government owned investment company, Dubai World

The remaining $6bn will be used to support the ‘needs’ of Dubai World until April 2010

MJ
UAE is also expected to inject liquidity into banks that face exposure to Dubai World

A positive move and should help improve sentiment around the entire region, given the
recent collapse in confidence

This news should be taken positively by companies in our sector with Middle East
exposure – Interserve* (BUY) and Carillion* (BUY) standout

MJ
We are just trying to find out about the FTSE Lloyds reweight
NH
yep
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no one in press office
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still nothing
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shall we move on
MJ
We should have a look at the BA pension numbers
MJ
Which are not pretty
NH
oh yes
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good idea
11:30AM
NH
what are the shares doing??
MJ
Down 1.1p at 200p
NH
right, so although the deficit looks big
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it is about what the market was going for
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so
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this shouldn’t scupper the merger with Iberia?
MJ
No
MJ
Here is Davy on the matter
MJ

New Airways Pension Scheme (NAPS) have reached provisional agreement on the
actuarial basis to calculate the deficits in each pension scheme as at March 31st
2009.
On the basis of this agreement, the deficit in APS would be £1.0bn and the deficit
in NAPS would be £2.7bn.
The airline and trustees will now work together to develop a recovery plan, a
process which will involve the company consulting with employees and their trade
unions. The regulatory deadline for the valuation process, including agreement on
future contributions required and the recovery plan, is June 30th 2010.
The €3.7bn size of the deficit is in the range of expectations. BA currently commits
£330m in cash annually to fund pensions, with the current payment period over
ten years. We would expect this period to be elongated.
Separately, the UNITE union ballot for strike action among cabin crew takes place
today (December 14th). If affirmative, this allows strike action within seven days.
However, we think strikes over the Christmas period are unlikely
MJ
And here is Deutsche Bank
MJ

Combined deficit of GBP3.7bn: A deficit of GBP2.7bn for NAPs and
GBP1bn for APS as of the end of March 2009 is towards the high end of
market expectations. The actuarial valuation in March 2008 was a combined
deficit of GBP1.8bn using discount rates of 5.8% and 4.9% for NAPS/APS
respectively. The doubling of the deficit reflects the 34% fall in the stock
market (over 60% of assets are in equities) partially offset by a discount rate
of 6.1% for NAPS (which lowers the liabilities). However the APS discount
rate was lowered to 4.6% (from 4.9%) reflecting the a lower exposure to
equities.
Recovery plan: The legal deadline for a recovery plan is June 2010. The
company had hoped not to raise the annual cash-top ups of GBP180m but
simply to extend the recovery period. However, even taking into account
the rise in the stock market since March (we estimate that the deficit is
GBP2bn rather than GBP3.7bn at current market levels) it seems that more
money will have to be found for the pension deficit. This could either come
from the company or employees.
MJ
Employee unrest: Today Unite union will give the result of the cabin crew
ballot to strike. We expect that the ballot will be in favour of strike action
most probably in the New Year to keep the public onside. However whether
or not a strike occurs depends on the turnout. The majority of crew would
not appear to have a motive to strike given that the changes to conditions
affect new staff and many crew recently benefitted from a pay rise and a
move to part-time. However, given the latest deficit, the company may be
forced to rengotiate pension benefits with employees if it is to avoid using
more of shareholders cash. Induistrial unrest could therefore worsen over
the next few weeks.
NH
thanks for that
NH
although
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they key thing to note
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in this morning’s statement
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is not the figures
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but the FACT
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that pensions regulator
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does not agree
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with the assumptions used
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t will be interesting to see what they conclude
NH
i suspect
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it could turn into a good row
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watch this space
11:32AM
NH
OK
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some breaking news
NH
from Citi
NH
RTRS-CITIGROUP, U.S. GOVERNMENT AND REGULATORS AGREE TO TARP REPAYMENT
11:30 14Dec09 RTRS-CITIGROUP SAYS TO ISSUE $17 BILLION OF COMMON STOCK AND $3.5 BILLION OF TANGIBLE EQUITY UNITS
11:30 14Dec09 RTRS-CITIGROUP SAYS TO REPAY $20 BILLION OF TARP TRUST PREFERRED SECURITIES
11:30 14Dec09 RTRS-CITIGROUP – AGREEMENT WITH THE U.S. GOVERNMENT AND REGULATORS TO TERMINATE LOSS-SHARING AGREEMENT
11:30 14Dec09 RTRS-CITI TO SUBSTITUTE SUBSTANTIAL COMMON STOCK FOR CASH COMPENSATION
11:30 14Dec09 RTRS-CITIGROUP SAYS DECIDED TO ISSUE IN JANUARY 2010 $1.7 BILLION OF COMMON STOCK EQUIVALENTS TO EMPLOYEES IN LIEU OF CASH
11:30 14Dec09 RTRS-CITI SAYS WILL CEASE TO BE A BENEFICIARY OF TARP ‘EXCEPTIONAL FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE’ BEGINNING IN 2010
11:30 14Dec09 RTRS-CITIGROUP – U.S. TREASURY TO SELL UP TO $5 BILLION OF ITS COMMON SHARES VIA CONCURRENT SECONDARY OFFERING; PLANS ORDERLY EXIT
11:30 14Dec09 RTRS-CITIGROUP -REPAYMENT WILL RESULT IN AN APPROXIMATE $8 BILLION PRE-TAX LOSS
MJ
More flashes coming
NH
11:30 14Dec09 RTRS-CITIGROUP – WILL IMMEDIATELY ISSUE $20.5 BILLION OF CAPITAL AND DEBT
11:31 14Dec09 RTRS-CITIGROUP – WILL ALSO TERMINATE THE LOSS-SHARING AGREEMENT WITH THE GOVERNMENT
11:31 14Dec09 RTRS-CITIGROUP – TO CANCEL $1.8 BILLION OF THE $7.1 BILLION IN TRUST PREFERRED SECURITIES IT ORIGINALLY ISSUED TO THE GOVERNMENT
11:31 14Dec09 RTRS-CITIGROUP SAYS TO ISSUE $3.5 BLN OF TANGIBLE EQUITY UNITS AND APPROXIMATELY $0.7 BILLION OF SUBORDINATED NOTES
11:31 14Dec09 RTRS-CITIGROUP SAYS IT MAY ISSUE UP TO $3 BILLION OF TRUST PREFERRED SECURITIES IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2010
11:32 14Dec09 RTRS-CITIGROUP SAYS AFTER GIVING EFFECT TO TODAY’S TRANSACTINS, WOULD HAVE HAD ABOUT $117.4 BLN TCE AT THE END OF Q3 2009
11:32 14Dec09 RTRS-RPT-CITIGROUP SAYS MAY ISSUE UP TO $3 BILLION OF TRUST PREFERRED SECURITIES IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2010
NH
just digesting that
NH
bear with us
NH
so
NH
another cash call in the banks
MJ
Well, Dubai doesn;t seem to be meassing that one up
NH
$17 BILLION OF COMMON STOCK AND $3.5 BILLION OF TANGIBLE EQUITY UNITS
MJ
Very big numbers there
NH
and what’s this
NH
some bonus stuff?
NH
CITIGROUP SAYS DECIDED TO ISSUE IN JANUARY 2010 $1.7 BILLION OF COMMON STOCK EQUIVALENTS TO EMPLOYEES IN LIEU OF CASH
MJ
Looks like it
MJ
(Is Pi looking for a yellow?)
MJ
Neil is just putting up the full release from Citi
NH
Here it is
NH
NEW YORK – (Business Wire) Citi today announced that it has reached an agreement with the U.S. government and its regulators to repay U.S. taxpayers for the $20 billion the government holds in TARP trust preferred securities and to terminate the loss-sharing agreement with the government.

Vikram Pandit, Chief Executive Officer, said on behalf of the entire Citi Board of Directors, “The TARP program was designed to provide assistance until banks were in a position to repay it prudently. We are pleased to be able to repay the U.S. government’s trust preferred securities and to terminate the loss-sharing agreement. We owe the American taxpayers a debt of gratitude and recognize our obligation to support the economic recovery through lending and assistance to homeowners and other borrowers in need.”

NH
The securities transactions planned to facilitate the repayment of the $20 billion in TARP trust preferred securities and the termination of the loss-sharing agreement are as follows:

Citi will immediately issue $20.5 billion of capital and debt, comprised of:

* $17 billion of common stock, with an over-allotment option of $2.55 billion; and
* $3.5 billion of tangible equity units (consisting of approximately $2.8 billion of prepaid common stock purchase contracts (recorded as equity) and approximately $0.7 billion of subordinated notes (recorded as debt).

In connection with Citi’s offering, the U.S. Treasury (UST) will sell up to $5 billion of the common stock it holds in a concurrent secondary offering. After the secondary offering, the UST is subject to a 45-day “lock-up” period. The Treasury has also announced that it plans to sell the remainder of its shares in an orderly fashion over the next 6-12 months.

In addition, Citi has decided to issue in January 2010 $1.7 billion of common stock equivalents to employees in lieu of cash they would have otherwise received. Subject to shareholder approval at the company’s annual meeting on April 1, 2010, the common stock equivalents will be replaced by common stock.

NH
n addition, Citi has decided to issue in January 2010 $1.7 billion of common stock equivalents to employees in lieu of cash they would have otherwise received. Subject to shareholder approval at the company’s annual meeting on April 1, 2010, the common stock equivalents will be replaced by common stock.

As agreed with the U.S. government and its regulators, following the successful completion of the $17 billion common stock offering and the $3.5 billion offering of tangible equity units, Citi will repay $20 billion of TARP trust preferred securities. The repayment will result in an approximate $8 billion pre-tax loss ($5.1 billion after tax). Citi will also terminate the loss-sharing agreement with the government and cancel $1.8 billion of the $7.1 billion in trust preferred securities it originally issued to the government as consideration for the benefits provided by that agreement. This will result in an approximate pre-tax loss of $2.1 billion ($1.3 billion after tax). The termination of the loss-sharing agreement will increase Citi’s risk-weighted assets by approximately $144 billion.

NH
there’s quite a bit more
NH
but that will do for now, I think
MJ
Pandit: We owe the American taxpayers a debt of gratitude and recognize our obligation to support the economic recovery through lending and assistance to homeowners and other borrowers in need.
MJ
Right
NH
before we move on
NH
if you are experiencing odd glitches today
NH
it will be to do with your caches
NH
can you refresh
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and things like
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the RSS box should disappear
MJ
Teething problems
NH
but we are fixing it
11:39AM
NH
Where now Miles?
MJ
Monkey – go to prefereces
NH
what about cadbury
NH
anything at all interesting in the defence doc?
MJ
Nothing that thirilling
MJ
Lots of slogans
MJ
Attack being the best form of defence
NH
yeah
NH
like this one from Stizter
NH
we understand the value of values
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and this from Carr
NH
Commeth the hour commenth the men..
MJ
ha
MJ
Pantomime stuff
NH
but is there anything interesting in the statement?
MJ
Well – main point of interest is that Cadbury confirmed it had been in contact with “third parties”
MJ
but refused to name them
MJ
We can take that as meaning Hershey
NH
right
NH
so that’s a positive
Cadbury (CBRY:LSE): Last: 792.00, up 1.5 (+0.19%), High: 797.50, Low: 790.00, Volume: 361.61k
MJ
Here is the team from Nomura on the statement
MJ
Cadbury (NEUTRAL, TP 805p)

Company releases its defence document this morning re the Kraft offer and a trading update.

1. Trading – FY09 guidance unchanged

Company confirmed its previous guidance for 2009 of sales growth in the middle of the 4-6% range and margin at least 135bp better y-o-y. NE 5.2% and +160bp for FY09.

No change in FY09 guidance might come as a slight disappointment; however, company says that it wanted to focus people more on medium-term targets and not lots of ST new info.

MJ

NOMURA European Food Research
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Alex Smith +44 20 7102 1459 Alex.Smith@nomura.com
David Hayes +44 20 7102 1341 David.Hayes@nomura.com
Guillaume Delmas +44 20 7102 6918 Guillaume.Delmas@nomura.com
_______________________________________________________________________________

14 December 2009

Cadbury (NEUTRAL, TP 805p)

Company releases its defence document this morning re the Kraft offer and a trading update.

1. Trading – FY09 guidance unchanged

Company confirmed its previous guidance for 2009 of sales growth in the middle of the 4-6% range and margin at least 135bp better y-o-y. NE 5.2% and +160bp for FY09.

No change in FY09 guidance might come as a slight disappointment; however, company says that it wanted to focus people more on medium-term targets and not lots of ST new info.

2. Defence – Improved medium-term targets

Re the defence. Rejects Kraft offer as inadequate. Says revised medium-term plans given momentum are:

Ø Organic sales growth in the 5-7% range (was 4-6%). NE was 4.7% CAGR 2010 – 2013
Ø Margins 16%-18% by 2013 (previous 2011 “mid teens”). Compares with c. 15%+ in 2011 implied. NE was 15.8% 2011 and then c. 16.2% ongoing
Ø 80-90% cash conversion – implies better NWC management from here. 2009 FCF conversion c. 50%
Ø DD dividend growth from 2010 (in NE est, 2010E 19.5p)

Broadly, if we run 6% sales growth and margins at 18% by 2013, we would increase PT from 780p to c. 910p all else equal.

Sales growth increase driven by;

– Higher proportion of emerging markets (currently 38% of sales) in the mix and growing more quickly (was +12% in 2008)
– Absence of portfolio rationalisation (2007-2009 sales growth 6% with this offset)
– More mix and innovation in developed markets. More selective about growth projects.

Margins from ongoing initiatives, no new major restructuring. Says will take c. 70-80bp of ongoing restructuring charges (within margin guidance), ie c. £50m per annum. (£180m restructure costs in 2009).

Says that the cash conversion will be from the absence of big restructuring outflows and NWC management post the reconfiguration of plants.

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11:46AM
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Right
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let’s head to small corner for a moment
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because we have a bid
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Good idea
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for Mouchel
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an outsourcing company
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think it manages the M25
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Statement in response to press speculation

Following press speculation yesterday, the Board of Mouchel Group plc (“the Company”) confirms that it has been in receipt of two unsolicited approaches from VT Group plc to acquire the entire issued and to be issued share capital of the Company.

The Board believes these approaches to be wholly inadequate and at a level which substantially undervalues the Company.

The Board has discussed these approaches with its advisors and has unanimously rejected them.

The Board understands that VT Group plc remains interested in pursuing a transaction.

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right
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rumoured approach price was 250p
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I think
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and
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analysts
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well some of them
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think it is worth 300p a share
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the question is
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does VT come back
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with a higher offer?
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Mouchel is up 47p at 236.5p
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so the market not convinced yet
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but good to see another deal
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Do you have some comment on this?
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yes
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got a couple of notes
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this is from Joe Brent at Liberum
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he used to the mid cap guru at Citigroup
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We believe that the take-out of Mouchel is likely. It has attractive assets,
particularly in BPO. It is cheap despite the strong run. Investors are weary.
Acquirers are hungry for deals. We believe that a buyer could pay 300p, giving
further upside of 57%.
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Two unsolicited approaches from VT – Mouchel has announced that it has
received two unsolicited approaches from VT Group. We believe that VT is a
credible buyer. We estimate £125m of cash post the BVT disposal. We expect
that VT would be willing to take on c. £100m of debt. The balance of the EV,
including the estimated £100m of Mouchel’s debt, would have to be funded with
equity.
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Door open to other bidders – While Mouchel is an eclectic mix of assets, we
believe that it has attractive assets, particularly BPO (estimated 38% of FY 2010
EBITA). We believe it would be attractive to other buyers, including Serco, but
also US companies, such as Aecom, CH2MHill and Jacobs, who were reported
in the trade press last week to be seeking a UK acquisition
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Lower risk than usual – Historically, buying people based consultants has been
seen as high risk. However, unusually low staff churn-rates across the industry
suggest that staff have limited other jobs to go to. Mouchel’s visibility is much
higher than the engineering consultants, like WSP. It is unlikely that a buyer
would justify a deal primarily on the basis of cost synergies, however, only 1% of
sales would represent £7m of synergies
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Still woefully undervalued – Last week’s trading statement re-iterated
guidance. The shares are trading on a CY 2010 P/E of 7.3x and EV/EBIT of 6.5x.
Taxing the synergies at 28%, adding them back, and applying a FY 2010 P/E of
10x would give a price of 300p, an EV/EBIT of 8.3x, further upside of 57%
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and this is from Panmure
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Bid speculation
The group has confirmed that it has received unsolicited bids from VT which
explain the 20% rise in the share price last Friday. While the trading update,
also last Friday, indicated improving fortunes, it still has some way to go to
meet FY expectations. But with bid focus now on the shares a cautious
recommendation is no longer appropriate; we move to neutral.
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Bid speculation. Mouchel has confirmed that it has received two unsolicited bids from
VT to acquire the group. The board believes these to be “wholly inadequate” and
“substantially undervalue the company”, so have been rejected. The Mouchel statement
also suggests that VT remain interested in pursuing a transaction. Press speculation
suggests that other groups including Capita and Serco are watching events closely.
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Recent trading update. The AGM/IMS update from Mouchel last Fri indicated that
FY trading was expected to be in-line with expectations although the usual H2 bias
would be accentuated. There has been an increase in the contract win rate towards the
top of its historic range. The order book is £2bn while the pipeline is up 20% to £2.6bn.
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Valuation. We did not change our forecasts with the update which means the shares are
trading on a calendar 10E PE of 6.8x and EV/Ebitda of 5.1x. Neither of these is
expensive relative to its own trading history and to the sector. The dividend yield is
3.4%.
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Recommendation. The rumoured price is said to be 250p which would imply an exit
PE of 9.5x for Mouchel. The challenge for any acquirer would include retaining the key
consulting asset, being the people, and how much of the hybrid consulting/BPO model
that would be retained. With interest now focused on the group a negative
recommendation is no longer appropriate so we move to a neutral stance. Our target
price remains unchanged at 190p.
11:50AM
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Shrewdette
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sorry to hear you are having probs
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I have an email from Andrew Betts
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for you
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that I will forward
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it might help with your issues
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also Shrewdette
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can you mail me
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with a list of the probs
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thanks
11:51AM
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OK
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seeing as we are in small cap corner
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let’s have a quick look at GKP
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because as Debbie Downer mentioned on Friday
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the Iraq oil contracts
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Can of worms this
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could have a big impact on its valuation
Gulf Keystone Petroleum (GKP:LSE): Last: 93.25, down 2.75 (-2.86%), High: 97.75, Low: 92.50, Volume: 809.15k
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Can you explain?
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well
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for the bigger fields
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the oil companies
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just aren’t going to earn very much
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so although there are billions of barrels down there
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the take will be small
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have a look at this
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Well, that was certainly interesting. No surprise that the biggest fields came with savage fiscal terms – only a shade over $1/bbl allowed revenue in some cases (West Qurna, 12.9 bnbbl), up to $5.50/bbl for the relatively small Badra field (800mmbbl) and $6 for Nineveh. The range is interesting – obviously keyed to size and complexity – but for all you Kurdistan bulls out there, this should give you a solid readthrough into the downside scenario where all the Kurdish players are put onto Iraq-style service contracts
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Interesting comments too from the participants, as one senior executive remarked: “They were astonishingly low figures [per barrel]. But 2009 will be remembered as the year that Iraq opened its door to the international oil companies and then shut it. It’s 10 fields and that’s it. So it’s strategic for the oil companies, either you are here or you aren’t and this is the chance. You have to think about it like that.” Positive for the winners such as RDS, Total, Petronas, etc – but it is salutary to attempt to calculate the return on capital for projects like these…
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so
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the question is
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does this lie in wait for GKp
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when it
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comes to negotiate with the Kurdish govt
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one day in the future
11:55AM
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In other news, Frankie Timis has run into some problems with the IPO he was planning
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but
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the float is not deffo off
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only being held up
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The London Stock Exchange is holding up the planned flotation on Aim of the latest vehicle of Frank Timis, the entrepreneur, because of concerns about his past.
Romanian-born Mr Timis, whose past includes three narcotic convictions, had been in the advanced stages of bringing his company to market in a £60m ($98m) flotation
Although the exchange has given African Petroleum no official written notice, it has offered guidance in discussions to Mirabaud that it would not like to see Mr Timis with a position on the board.
The move from the exchange is highly unusual as the vetting process and regulation of London’s junior index is normally devolved to nominated advisers. The LSE has been looking to bolster the reputation of Aim after a series of high profile failures and accusations of minimal regulation. The London Stock Exchange declined to comment.
The planned listing is due to take place just weeks after the LSE imposed a record fine on Regal Petroleum, the oil exploration company Mr Timis founded.
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Regal was hit with a record fine of £600,000 fine and a public censure for numerous, serious breaches of Aim rules between June 2003 and May 2005 as it searched for oil in the Aegean Sea, when Mr Timis was executive chairman.
They included Regal failing to take reasonable care to ensure that announcements were not misleading, false or deceptive, and did not omit material information.
However, the ruling made no criticism of Mr Timis, who was ousted from the board in 2005 but who has retained an 8.8 per cent stake.
However, Mr Timis remains chairman of another Aim-quoted stock, African Minerals. At £737m, the Sierra Leone-focused company is one of the index’s largest mining stocks.
Part of the African Petroleum’s portfolio were assets off the Liberian coast that were the target of a reverse takeover by another Aim-listed group, Sound Oil. However, discussions were terminated earlier this month.
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That from the FT
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So, if Frank doesnt take a seat on the board, can it still go ahead?
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not sure
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and if he is the biggest shareholder
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surely he will still be pulling the strings
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in the background
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Can’t he just get one of his pals to step in on his behalf?
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exactly
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and that’s what will happen
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Frank’s name won’t be on the tin
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but Frank will be inside the tin
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He’s a selling point of sorts
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And as Lorkan says, he can always up sticks to somewhere else
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he might list on Plus Markets
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they will have him
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I dont see why Frank hasn’t used the Dubai excuse yet
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yes
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that’s poor on his part
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if only that one was around when Regal blew up
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anyway I hope the LSE knows what it is doing
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because Frank does lots of good works
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for charidee
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and stopping him from raising cash
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means kids in africa
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won’t get new schools
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clean drinking water
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books
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laptops
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food
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vaccines
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that sort of thing
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Seriously, UKLA, please get your priorities straight
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Think of the children
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help the kiddies in african
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and let Frank float
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pls
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Maybe we should start a campaign?
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let Frank float
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write to your local MP
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the LSE
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the FSA
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We will keep you updated with how that goes
12:01PM
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Right
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before we go
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Dragon Oil
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shares were pretty stable Friday
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post the no vote
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and this morning?
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Not much changed
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up 1.2p at 381p
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(Monkey off)
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Straight red
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(Poppy off)
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(Taxloss off)
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Anyway, here is a bit of anlayst reaction to the DGO vote on Friday
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good
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Here is Evolution
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EVO TAKE – With the bid rejected and ENOC giving undertakings not to sell its stake for at least 24 months, Dragon’s share price will revert to a play on the oil price. Not feeling bullish on this, we believe that Dragon’s share price is likely to drift in the near term. There are positives though, such as putting the large cash balance (c.$1bn) to work or monetizing the gas resources. However, we believe acquisition DD has taken a back seat during the offer period and gas monetization is progressing slower than anticipated.
DETAILS – Despite being recommended by the Independent Committee, ENOC’s offer was accepted by only 48.9% by value of shareholders, below the 75% requirement for the bid to be binding.
VALUATION AND RECOMMENDATION – In the short term, we see few catalysts for Dragon’s shares to reach the levels seen during the bid period. Therefore we switch our recommendation to Reduce. Our new target price of 350p is 12% below Dragon’s core value of 400p and 24% below the core + risked NAV of 459p.
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(Praxis – off)
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And Davy
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Poppy one more and one week ban
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shares at 455p made by ENOC, the majority shareholder in Dragon. The offer was
made by way of a scheme of arrangement. To succeed required over 50% of the
shareholders and 75% of the shares to vote in favour. Over 75% of voting
shareholders were in favour, but these represented fewer than 50% of the shares
voted.
ENOC has already announced that no increase in the price will be made and has
also stated that it will not sell any shares before the end of 2011. This effectively
precludes a bid from another third party, and ENOC cannot make any further offer
for 12 months under the takeover panel rules. This means market attention will
now refocus on Dragon’s ongoing development of its two wholly-owned oil and
gas fields in the Turkmenistan offshore.
We believe there will be a period of price instability as the market adjusts to the
new reality. Nonetheless, a market price of 455p per share has been set by an
informed buyer. This sets the near-term target price, and the stock is a buy up to
this level.
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FatDaz is pushing it as well
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Daz – off
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Ah well
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Mass pun brawl again
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right
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that’s it
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massacre time
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Uh oh
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Emoticon
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any one else
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want to try it on
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Vintage off
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Daddy off
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Neil – we wil have no readers at this rate
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right
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I think
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we can safely say the zapper
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works in the new upgraded version of ML
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so thanks for helping us test that
12:06PM
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OK
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it is past midday
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and we must go
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I am off to see Citigroup
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in the meantime
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lots of rumours in the market about a counter offer for Shanks
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names the same as in the weekend paper
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company not saying much
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We wonder whether Greenhill
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has decided to run an auction
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Shopping it around
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post the Carlyle approach
Shanks Group (SKS:LSE): Last: 135.00, up 5 (+3.85%), High: 136.20, Low: 131.50, Volume: 2.37m
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I think we are done
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Ok
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hopefully the Cut
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will be working tomorrow
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and the other glitches ironed out
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Yes, appologies for the technical problems
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right
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FTSE 100 fading
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up 40 points now at 5,302
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and VT Group
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falling
VT Group (VTG:LSE): Last: 531.00, down 10.5 (-1.94%), High: 546.00, Low: 531.00, Volume: 383.40k
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higher offer fears?
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Maybe
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Right – thanks for tuning in
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oh
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as regards Friday’s challenge
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Taxloss
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oh yeah
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has made an excellent spreadsheet
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Very nice of him
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click there for it
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I think it updates in realtime
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Taxloss
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in the lead at the minute
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post the Dubai pop
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Hmmm
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but things are close
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thanks for TL
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and Tracy
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has made a new Squid
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for the prize
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so there is going to be one lucky winner on Friday
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but remember readers
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the rules can be changed by me
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at the last minute
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for no reason whatsoever
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and no fighting over the squid
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right
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I must go
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see you all tomorrow
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thanks for all the coments
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and the puns
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Bye
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see ya
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