Markets live chat transcript for the chat ending at 12:07 on 13 Jul 2009. Participants in this chat were: Paul Murphy, FT (PM) Neil Hume, FT (NH)
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I’m flying blind here.
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Reuters terminal on the blink.
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Well it was on the blink, so I turned it off and then turned it back on again
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And the blinking password for the PC doesn’t work.
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Obviously, lodged an urgent request for assistance. An hour ago.
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For tomorrow morning, maybe.
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And he’s fine, Reuters wise.
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but I have had terrible trouble logging in
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there was some sort of maintenance done on the whole FT site at the weeklend
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with predictable consquences
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Neil’s been kicked out
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But certainly screen wise
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Welcome to Muppetsville
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Neil — have you tried turning it off and turning it back on again??
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Was too busy cutting skirting board and stuff
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Monkey — cant script it if we dont have Reuters to copy from
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Okay — got an IT person on the Reuters issue
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But Neil cant get in at all
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Right — waht’s the Footsie doing Neil?
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What do you mean nothing — that’s another 0.01 point on the way to 4k
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how long would that take us to get their?
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Beat an IT service request i bet tho
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although the market at the index level is qiuet
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there are a few things going on this morning
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and a bid for Emerald
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Well i havent seen any of the details
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Tell me about this Emerald thing
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rumours doing the rounds late on Friday
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of a 750p a share bid
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shares closed up 10% on Friday
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I was told the Chinese were looking and Bryce heard Gran Tierra Energy Group, a Canadian outfit
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anyway here’s today statement
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Emerald Energy Plc (“Emerald” or the “Company”) notes the recent movement in its share price and speculation in the national press and confirms that it has received an approach from a third party who has expressed an interest in making a possible cash offer for the entire issued share capital of the Company.
It should be emphasised that the discussions are at a preliminary stage. Accordingly, no assurances can be given that any formal offer will be forthcoming or that any transaction will occur.
Any further announcement will be made if and when appropriate.
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Enquiries:
Emerald Energy Plc
Alastair Beardsall – 020 7925 2440
Lisa Hibberd – 020 7925 2440
Harland Capital Limited
Harry Sutherland – 0203 051 9306
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but some people in the market think things are more advanced
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and we could see a deal this week
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and after a slow start the share price is certainly suggesting that
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currently up 72p at 632.5p
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that’s a gain of almost 13%
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I called Emerald earlier this morning
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to try and get a bit of colour
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Emerald are not being very helpful
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in fact they are not being helpful at all
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the charmless Lisa mentioned above
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just kept parroting the same line
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we cannot say anything other than what’s in the statement
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given that I asking her whether they had a PR company
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and who their brokers were (Evolution its transpires)
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it seemed a very odd response
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and do they have any spinners?
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and I have never heard of their adviser either
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Harland Capital Limited (‘Harland Capital’), which is authorised and regulated
in the United Kingdom by the Financial Services Authority (as an appointed
representative to Neutralis Asset Management LLP), is acting for Emerald Energy
Plc and no-one else in connection with this announcement and will not be
responsible to anyone other than Emerald Energy Plc for providing the
protections afforded to its clients or for providing advice in relation to the
contents of this announcement, or for any other transaction, arrangement or
matters referred to in this announcement.
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they do have a website, which features a rather poor picture of Big Ben
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for reasons that aren’t clear
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just looking at that website
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not sure why there is a picture of big ben
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perhaps their offices are close by
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no contact details on the website
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apart from a phone number and email address
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Looks like we could have some fun with this deal
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very odd company Emerald
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was a real punters stock for many years
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now it is a play on Syria
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and South America – Columbia mainly
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and it has a very interestinig share register
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two Russian parties control over 30% of the company
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they are called Waterford Finance & Investment (29.45%)
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and Soyuzneftegas (8%)
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and one final bit of background
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some of the management team and non execs were at First Calgary
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have a look at this presentation
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(Lorcan an address, a contact name, office details, things like that)
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Canadian oil company that was acquired by ENI last year in a deal with $923m
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so they have a bit of track record of selling
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but I would say this is a pretty high risk situation
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here’s a couple of research notes I have been able to dredge up
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from Jeffieies and Evo
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they have a 750p target price
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A recent visit hosted by operator Gulfsands Petroleum to EEN’s 50% owned
Khurbet East fields and Block 26 in Syria highlighted the upside potential of
this asset. We see significant newsflow over the coming months to drive the
share price
The Khurbet East field (EEN 50%) is producing a steady 10,700 b/d gross with
almost no water. Development wells are on track to enable the upgraded Early
Production Facility to increase production to 16,000 b/d gross by end 2009.
Contracts are to be issued soon for the Central Processing Facility which should
handle production of 30,000 b/d gross by mid 2011
We have identified several areas of upside in the Khurbet East field, the Yousefieh
discovery and in exploration in block 26, any or all of which could lead to significant
upside in potential value to EEN. These include:
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a higher recovery factor due to superior reservoir characteristics in the centre of
the field – leading to higher recoverable 2P reserves;
increased recovery of reserves in early years (due to lack of water production and
low pressure drop in the reservoir) – leading to higher field NPV;
Newsflow – we see a number of drilling events in both Syria and Colombia which
can provide upside to Emerald’s valuation and share price in 2H09 – these include –
Gigante 2, Yousefieh-3, KHE-12, Mirto-1, Capella-7 etc.
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Preconceptions wrong. With little evidence of heavy handed
security we found Damascus and Block 26 to be both safe and
free. While red tape remains an issue (particularly concerning
imports) Syria is definitely open for business and progress is
being made giving us confidence that full development of the
Khurbet East field can be completed on time and on budget.
• Khurbet East reserve upside still possible. Failure to
establish a firm oil water contact within the Khurbet East
reservoir leaves open the possibility that a deeper contact could
be determined materially adding to oil in place estimates. We
understand plans are underway to drill an appraisal well to the
south of KHE-8 to test this upside.
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• Exploration activity set to accelerate in 2010. Following
receipt of initial results from recent 3D seismic programme
Gulfsands management is bullish that a number of interesting
leads have been identified and that exploration activity would
materially increase in 2010 ahead of licence expiration in Aug
2012. While we believe this unrecognised exploration potential
adds to an already attractive upside until leads are high graded
to drillable prospects and a second rig is secured we believe it
is premature to include this upside within our NAV.
Valuation/Risks
We have a core NAV for Emerald of 863p/sh and a risked upside
of 246p/sh. Our total NAV of 1,109p/sh is made up of 557p/sh for
Colombia, 485p/sh for Syria and 67p/sh of net cash and working
capital. Fully de-risked our NAV rises to 1,747p/sh.
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might be helpful because this seems to be the most under researched company in the FTSE 250
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I know have access to Reuters
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So thanks to the IT service desk for that
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Just got to catch up on everything now
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(sorry Lorcan I have frequent sense of humour failures)
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with your new reuters Murph
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an updated price on Emerald pls
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is that Emerald Energy?
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The price is up 71.5p at 632
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while you are there, an index update pls
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Did you read any of this UKFI stuff earlier
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well, i saw the stuff on pay
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Well, its a holding company really
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Well, owns the stakes in RBS, Lloyds and also owns Bradford & Bingley and Crock
Readers may also know this former bank as Northern Rock.
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You know people are still interested in that doc leak we had with Crock
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had a hack on this morning — doing something for Wired magazine on Wikileaks
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Apparently the Crock doc is still up there!
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don’t tell Schillings
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actually does anyone from their tune in anymore??
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Dunno — depends whether they are being paid, dunit?
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800 quid an hour, or what ever they charged Rock to monitor ML
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Jonathan Pierce at Credit Suisse
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has had a look at the annual report
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and here are his initial thoughts
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UKFI has this morning published its annual report. The key area of focus for us is the manner in which UKFI expects to dispose of its shares in LBG and RBS. It says it has a range of alternatives including institutional placements, public offer for sale, or a “structured sale” such as an exchangable bond where shares are sold at a future date at a fixed premium to the current share price if that target is reached. It also highlights reactive options, such as a strategic sale, private sale or sale of shares back to the bank (i.e. a share repurchase). However, it notes that its current investment is around £60bn, including B shares, and this could place practical limitations on its disposal process. The largest secondary offering ever seen was only £8bn from Deutsche Telekom in 2000. Overall therefore, it sees its base case for exiting these investments as a collection of sales to public investors over several years.
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It says that it doesn’t know when it will begin this process or when it will complete this process. But it does see the performance of bank shares prices in three stages. Stage 1 is the initial decline. Stage 2 is where prices start to rise and “underweight investors chase share prices upwards to avoid underperforming”. We would argue we are in this stage already, and UKFI says opportunities may arise to dispose of shares in this “initial recovery” period. The UKFI annual report states though that it is “too early to make a judgement that the conditions are right for a share sale” and that the ultimate decision to proceed with any transaction lies with HM Treasury. Stage 3 is where the recovery matures, and again it thinks there would be opportunities to sell further shares.
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Neither is UKFI clear on the outcome for the taxpayer. It is reasonably confident it will deliver Value for Money, but we note this isn’t necessarily the same as delivering a profit – it would need to sell LBG shares at over 120p and RBS shares at over 50p to book gains. On this subject, the papers, so far, are only really picking up on the fact the shares are worth £10bn less than the Government paid for them, but this misses the potential losses on the B shares. The valuation of these is harder as they include a 7% preferential coupon. Simply taking the difference between the B shares conversion price and today’s share price, the number is nearer £25bn, although this will overstate the hit.
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Hmm – he certainly right on the fact that UKFI will take a long time to get these holdings off the government’s books
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but that stat above on Deutsche Tel
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puts things into perspective
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a lot of stock to shift
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Seen this Media Guardian 100?
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What, the ranking thing??
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Well there’s a HUGE HOWLING error in it.
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Sam’s not in the list.
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and what about Dave Hill?
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Terrific blog about the G20 protests and stuff
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Anyway. What else is going on?
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Centrica have put up in regard to Venture Production
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and increased their stake to 29.9%
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and are buying bonds too
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so Centrica playing hardball
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here’s the suff on the bonds
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Centrica Resources has today entered into a conditional agreement to acquire all of the Convertible Bonds held or controlled by 3i Group plc. The agreement between Centrica Resources and 3i Group plc is conditional on the Panel providing a binding inter partes ruling that the sale and purchase of the Convertible Bonds: (i) is not prohibited by Rule 16 of the Code or Rule 5 of the Code; and (ii) does not trigger any obligations under Rule 6.1 of the Code, and such ruling of the Panel not being successfully challenged or overturned
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So the stock clsoed at around 790 on Friday
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and this 845p a share offer is FINAL
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there can be no increase unless another bid emerges
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which looks incredibly unlikely
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so its like it or lump it from Centrica
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and this has caught the hedgies community on the hop
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don’t think they saw this coming
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and now they are all trying to figure out if Centrica will get the 50% acceptances it needs
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hmmm – interesting situ
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and I see Venture have had their knuckles wrapped by the Takeover Panel
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Over comments abotu shareholder requirements
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At the request of the Takeover Panel, Venture wishes to clarify certain press
stories with respect to the price which Venture shareholders would be prepared
to accept for their shares in Venture from Centrica plc (‘Centrica’). Venture
confirms that it has only received confirmation of the intentions of two
shareholders, ArcLight Capital Partners, LLC (‘ArcLight’) and Larry Kinch.
ArcLight and Larry Kinch have issued their own statements setting out their
views on Centrica’s offer.
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hmm, the Venture PR machines swung into action over the weekend
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trying to get shareholders to shun the Centrica bid
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stories about some shareholders wanting £12 a share
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not sure it will work
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right quick price check
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ventuer up 40.5p at 825p
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Centrica secures 3i’s stake and makes 845p/sh cash offer
Centrica has announced (1) the acquisition of 3i’s stake in Venture (VPC), thus,
now controlling 29% of VPC’s shares and 50% of the outstanding convertible
bonds; and (2) a 845p/sh cash offer for the remainder of VPC. The offer – broadly
in line with our PO of 851p (unchanged) – puts VPC on an EV/boe of US$12.4/boe
(2P basis), a c20% premium to the sector average. Although the multiple is lower
than the US$17/boe that Nuon paid for the Chiswick/Stamford/Kew fields, these
are producing fields (or close to start producing as in the case of Kew) and,
therefore, carry a higher value than the remainder of VPC’s assets. We retain our
Neutral rating on Venture.
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VPC board rejects the offer
Importantly, Centrica indicated that the offer is final and will not be increased
unless there is a counter-bid. Although VPC’s board was quick to reject the offer,
their power to block a deal appears limited, particularly because (1) we see a
counter bid as highly unlikely, and (2) the exploration programme that lacks
transformational wells – see below. The fact that 3i, involved in VPC since its
creation in 1997, disposed its stake is a crucial step for Centrica and marks the
limited upside that now VPC offers, in our view.
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Exploration plan: active but not transformational
With UK gas prices likely to remain weak near term due to the broad availability of
supplies (LNG, piped imports), we believe that, apart from what we view as the
unlikely appearance of a white knight, only material exploration success can offer
significant upside to the shares. Although VPC’s exploration programme appears
active, we do not see any of its near term prospects/appraisals (Andrea and Annabel
East in the UKCS and Marram and Whitbeck in the Irish Sea) as transformational.
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Centrica offers 845p/share for Venture
On Friday Centrica announced an all-cash offer for Venture at 845p/sh, vs the 725p/share it paid to acquire 23.6% in March, and Friday’s close of 785p/share. In addition, Centrica announced that it has purchased 3i’s stake in Venture and a conditional agreement to acquire its share of Venture’s convertible bond, boosting its total holding to 29.0%. Centrica confirmed that its offer is a final one, ruling out an increase unless a counterbidder emerges. Venture has confirmed rejections of the offer from 7.4% holder Larry Kinch and 5.4% (including co-investors) holder Arclight
NH:
Greater Markham sale benchmark well above the offer level
In mid-June Venture sold assets in the Southern North Sea to Nuon Energy. The sale price of £96.5m for 9.3mboe of proven and probable reserves was equivalent to $17/boe. Based on Venture’s YE08 net debt and its current reserves, we estimate that Centrica’s offer values Venture at around $10/boe of reserves. Recent deals such as Dana’s purchase of Bow Valley ($9.5/boe) and Premier’s of Oilexco ($8.4/boe) were done at levels not far below Centrica’s offer, but these were distressed companies bought in a much weaker oil price environment, so the comparisons are not that valid. In our view Venture’s Greater Markham deal – while it cannot necessarily be extrapolated for the whole of Venture – gives an interesting insight into how much value could be liberated in the event of further asset sales.
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We value Venture well above the offer level
Our full NAV estimate for Venture is 938p/share (including a minor increase for Marram and Andrea), 11% above the level of Centrica’s offer. However, we believe our NAV estimate understates the value of Venture to Centrica (or another utility) for two reasons: 1) our NAV uses a 10% discount rate – if instead we use the Quest™-derived WACC for Centrica of 8.0% nominal, our full NAV rises to 998p/share; 2) Venture’s recent divestment of part-interests in its Greater Markham assets set a benchmark well above current market valuations – applying the sale value to the remainder of Venture’s Greater Markham assets alone would add around £1/share more to our NAV estimate.
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How are Lloyds doing this morning — thinking about UKFI…
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There’s another relatively tough note out from Robert Law at Nomura
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ah, what’s he saying?
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its on the back of this sunday times piece yesterday
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oh, what the one about huge writedowns?
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The Sunday Times reports that Lloyds may report losses of £6.3bn at the H1 stage, including credit loss charges of £13bn. These figures are entirely plausible, in our view. The group itself has indicated it expects to be in loss for the year as a whole. It has also warned that corporate credit loss charges will be up to 50% higher than last year.
Accordingly, we already have full year pre-tax loss estimates of £10bn, including an assumption for credit losses of £22.5bn (the ST article suggests full-year credit losses of over £20bn). Rather than the losses currently being incurred, there are two key issues for the group in our view: 1) the proportion of current losses that are attributable to APS assets and 2) the group earnings power excluding APS assets. We would argue that the current credit losses will substantially reflect APS assets.
Ironically, despite the scale of current losses, which are the largest in the sector, we regard the asset quality and book value of the Lloyds group as the most reliable of the domestic UK banks, due to the APS. The asset quality problems of the group, large though they may be, are in clearly identifiable parts of the asset base and appear to have been substantially transferred to the APS. The remainder of the book ex the APS appears to be of relatively high quality, including a majority of loans in prime mortgages. This contrasts with Barclays, where there is no APS, and RBS, where much less is known of the mix of APS assets and the remaining asset mix net of the APS.
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In a sense, the timing of credit loss charges on APS assets, is largely irrelevant to the shareholder; it is just a question of when the first loss piece is utilised. However, it does underline the extent to which the APS was necessary to support the group. There is also likely to be some relief when the scheme is ultimately finalised. We estimate a trough TBVPS of 64p per share for end 2010 and in an uncertain sector, we have more confidence in this projection than at most banks.
Instead, our negative view of Lloyds is due to the pressure we see on the group‘s sustainable profitability, partly as we view it the most exposed to the structural uncertainties from funding (ie its loans/deposits ratio) and to the current sector margin pressures. Unlike RBS, Lloyds has not quantified its expectations for margin decline this year, although it has indicated similar pressures. We expect negative trends in both revenue and profits before impairments at the interim stage and for this to be taken negatively by the market, as it has negative implications for estimates of future sustainable earnings. Revenue pressures are likely to include lower margins (negative for net interest income) and lower non-interest income from lower fees (including, but not restricted to, lower PPI revenue).
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A key issue for the interim figures will be the market‘s view of the ongoing earnings of the group ex the APS and the future prospects for these. It will be interesting to see how much light the group chooses to shed on its earnings on this ‗good bank, bad bank‘ basis ie both a split of credit losses on this basis and indications of revenue and revenue trends on an ongoing basis. The article also repeats recent commentary on management structure and potential EU action over state aid.
We continue to have a negative view towards the domestic UK banks, preferring the Far Eastern groups and Barclays as the least geared to the domestic UK market.
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All quite sensible i think
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I think £13bn would be about right
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readers asking about Caledon?
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nothing further to report
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we think talks are advanced
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and a price of 80p was being discussed
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and on to another deal
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three on a Monday in July
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they have rejected an all stock offer of around 71p from Clive Cowdery’s Resolution
NH:
they have, seems like FP are always in takeover talks
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and no deal ever gets down
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then Resolution Mrk I
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they have rejected the offer
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and sent back quite an aggressive letter
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whcih I have put up in the site
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and if Reso must increase its offer if it stands any chance of getting FP
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and to be fair this morning’s statement from the company does show that they might be prepared to budge
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but once again, this bid has highlighted the difficulty with these acquisition vehicles
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simply put, why should shareholders agree to paper swap at a small premium
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what’s in it for them??
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well, in this case not a lot
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Cowdry and co — of course — stand to get a big bonus
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10% of any value created
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is all based offshore
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and this payments goes to the top management team
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which includes John Tiner
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But from the point of view of Friends Prov investors…
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no synergies, no management change, nothing
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you just get to share in Cilve’s grand project with all the risk that entails
NH:
not surprising they have told them where to go
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now if there was a decent premium you might climb on board
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Resolution needs to buy something
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to generate synergies from other deals
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so I am not sure where they go next
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increase the offer for FP
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or wait any buy something that gets divested from the banks
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and Resolution are spinning this morning, that there are plenty of other deals out there
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Fp ticking higher now
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a dull market first off
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Stil below the offer price then
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which is someway below the offer price
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What did resolution float at?
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it should trade at a discount to cash
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unlike that Max Property thing
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cash trading at a 20% premium
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Resolution circles back to Friends Provident
A statement from RSL this morning confirms weekend press reports of a bid for
FP. According to this, a preliminary approach to FP has been made based
primarily on a share exchange offer but with a partial cash element to FP
shareholders. Press articles suggested that a small premium to FP’s share price
would be paid and that FP’s existing management team would be expected to
remain. We understand RSL’s initial approach has been rejected by FP’s board,
but according to the statement “RSL received constructive feedback from FP and
its advisors and is considering its response”.
NH:
An old Friend, but a new dimension
RSL knows the FP business well having tried unsuccessfully to buy the business
under the old Resolution banner. Back then, the rationale was to match the
cashflows coming from the closed businesses of the old RSL with the new
business cash demands of FP’s business and also tap into the maturing annuity
business of RSL’s books. Clearly neither of these benefits is relevant under the
new RSL business, which is just a £600m cash shell.
RSL has been scouring the UK market for months now in an attempt to
consummate its first deal. The lack of action thus far suggests that the company
is struggling to make the numbers work, which makes sense given the lack of
synergies, in our view. The first deal needs to be an inexpensive one, in our view.
FP trades on 65% of our EV estimate and around 50% of the company’s stated
EV. It trades close to our estimate of IFRS tangible book value and our fair value.
The IFRS PE is the main sticking point, we estimate a forward EPS multiple of
17x.
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Stage one of a grander plan
We see this as stage one of a grander plan for RSL. We think the IFRS multiple
of FP is a real turn off for investors, but this could be ‘fixed’ by scaling up the FP
pensions platform through additional deals. Therefore we see this as an attempt
by RSL to get up and running and bring synergy potential to additional deals.
RSL has an M&A mandate; FP does not
One has to question what is in this for FP shareholders. Arguably there would be
an acceleration of the turn-around of FP and through RSL shares, a way in which
to participate in the upside that could be created through industry consolidation.
But couldn’t FP’s own management team facilitate a deal itself (and not dilute the
value of synergies to its shareholders). This may come down to a function of size
and the willingness of the shareholder base to support deals. RSL’s shareholders
expect to be writing cheques to support deals; the same is not true for FP
shareholders, in our view.
NH:
The Sunday Times (July 12, 2009) is reporting that
Resolution (OW) has made a merger approach to
Friends Provident (EW): The article suggests that the
proposal is for an all-share transaction at a small
premium to Friday’s 60p close for Friends Provident
shares. The respected FP senior management team
would be retained, according to the report. Neither
company has commented.
Resolution’s senior management know FP very well
– with the previous vehicle having also proposed a
merger: However, given that RSL is currently a cash
shell the industrial logic and opportunity to harvest
synergies would be very different this time around.
NH:
We believe FP shares are inexpensive, with
conservative accounting: FP is trading at 47% of our
FY09e embedded value, and at 6.3x FY09e EEV
operating earnings. On IFRS metrics, FP is trading a
slight discount to our FY09e TBV of 66p. The yield – on
a recently reduced dividend (FY09e) is 6.6%.
FP comprises a UK business (protection / group
pensions) and international operations (FP Intl and
Lombard): While group pensions are unattractive,
there would be an opportunity to create synergies
through subsequent transactions.
NH:
First transaction difficult for RSL: While subsequent
transactions allow RSL to harvest cost, revenue, tax and
capital synergies, none of these are available on a first
deal, so buying into an inexpensive asset is crucial.
Positive read across to rest of UK life sector: We
expect the press report will highlight the SoTP discount
that is apparent in the UK life sector. Last week we
upgraded Legal & General to Overweight, highlighting
the valuation case – we believe that L&G’s investment
management business is worth around 55% of the
current market capitalisation.
NH:
and finally MF Global
NH:
While headlines may well highlight the low implied price to embedded value of any offer, we believe that, with shareholders continuing to participate in the upside, they will not see it this way. Friends shareholders will primarily be
swapping their shares for shares in Resolution with exposure to the same assets but will also benefit from Resolution’s management, the cash element, better dividend prospects, and possible upside from future consolidation initiated by
Resolution. Resolution believe there to be a strong pipeline and that further deals will be possible in a short timeframe.
Investors have previously expressed a preference to us of being involved in the company that ends up being a target of
Resolution. As such this should be positive news for Friends Provident shares this morning but we believe that it also
heralds the start of much needed wider consolidation of the UK life industry. We would not rule out another bidder for
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Friends or a defensive merger with somebody else. We believe that L&G in particular could feature in any short term industry consolidation.
There is little change to our valuation of the company which we still see at a premium to end 2009E embedded value of
128p. We maintain our Target Price at this fair value even though we do not expect the shares to achieve this level in the
short term, or in their current form if the offer is successful. Our Target Price is reduced slightly to 130p (from 140p) to
reflect the recent disposal of F&C. However one of the reasons why we have been tempted to review our
recommendation and Target Price has been the short term cash and dividend prospects. With Resolution’s management
and cash, this concern disappears. We believe the shares represent an attractive investment at this level, even on a
relative basis within a cheap UK life subsector.
NH:
can u turn off your Reuters machine?
PM:
might not switch on a gain
NH:
well, ever since it came back to life
NH:
thhe market has been rising
NH:
loads of results coming out of the US this week
NH:
Investors were bracing for a flurry of quarterly results this week from U.S. bellwethers such as Goldman , Intel Corp. , Johnson & Johnson , Google , IBM , JPMorgan Chase , Bank of America , Citigroup and General Electric .
PM:
Plenty of scope for disappointment and cautious outlooks in that lot
PM:
The short stay, just in case you were having another wobble neil
PM:
I may have to switch off the Reuters machine tho
NH:
Goldman up in pre-market
NH:
the bank slayer has upgraded
NH:
RTRS-GOLDMAN SACHS SHARES UP 2.2 PCT TO $145.01 IN PREMARKET, THEFLYONTHEWALL.COM RPTS MEREDITH WHITNEY UPGRADES CO TO “BUY”
PM:
We think GS figs are tomorrow
NH:
anyone seen the note??
PM:
but cant check immediately
PM:
bruyce was trying to get hold of it — but hasnt yet
PM:
Tracy says it is tomorrow
NH:
the IB’s having another decent quarter in FI etc
NH:
must be in the price no?
PM:
[11:53:58] Tracy Alloway: Goldman Sachs Group Inc. (NYSE: GS) will be holding a Q2 2009 conference call for investors and analysts on Tuesday, July 14, 2009 at 11:00 a.m. ET.
PM:
We know GS wont disappoint
PM:
But im thinking more of IBM. GE etc
PM:
I think the US corporate mood is very cautious actually
NH:
right, just time for Small Cap Corner
PM:
oooh – cant help thinkng about the Tony Hart music now
PM:
Very good idea that from Monkey
PM:
More tech for the backlog
NH:
what’s Northgate doing
NH:
after our savage attack on Friday
PM:
only another 45p to pick up there
NH:
did H&M Capital Management go short?
PM:
Price is defying gravity
PM:
I think we did — all in
NH:
still a screaming sell
PM:
remember — 50m shares issued at 60p — and 1,200,000,000 issued at 7p
NH:
actually I was surprised the Northgate flaks
NH:
didn’t come on after the show on Friday
NH:
but I guess you can’t defend a deal as bad as this
NH:
the company is still well and truly up the creek
PM:
Bryce has just sent a link to this Citywire thing
PM:
That looks irresistable
PM:
The staggering cost of the FSA: £2.8 billion
PM:
have just totalled up the actual cost just of the FSA running expenses since 1999 until their projected expenditure for 2009/10. The amount comes to a staggering £2.8 billion pounds with 2009/10 projected to be £415 million for that year alone.
This is just the FSA’s costs and excludes the cost of companies complying with their ever changing rules and documentation etc which I would estimate cost everyone regulated by the FSA many more billions of pounds, let alone the number of trees that have been destroyed as a result of the ever changing documentation needed.
PM:
By a guy called Michael Fallas
PM:
But just looking at it — i think his figures are a wild underestimate
PM:
Yeah — you have got to factor in all the cost it creates across the industry
PM:
I think you are talking a figure more like 2.8bn per year
NH:
created a whole industry
PM:
Compliance departments at every bank and broker, no matter how small, cost anything from a million apiece upwards,,
PM:
Anyway, we were going to try and be nice to the FSA, werent we?
NH:
no, whatever gave you that idea?
NH:
just a quick mention of Renold
NH:
up 20% after being tipped by David Swartz at the weekend
NH:
he has a real following now
NH:
after a couple of good hits
PM:
Also — just note mention of CIT over on the right
PM:
Interesting if that goes down — which we think is a very real possibility
PM:
Sorry for the shaky start
NH:
been hell this morning
PM:
Hopefully a bit more together tomorrow
NH:
but the show always goes on
PM:
And the advance on the footise is now being chipped away
PM:
FTSE 100 up 16 at 4143
PM:
Say hello to Stacy — who is just out of bed in NY
NH:
until tomorrow everyone, cya.