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Markets live transcript 18 Jun 2009

Markets live chat transcript for the chat ending at 12:13 on 18 Jun 2009. Participants in this chat were: Paul Murphy, FT (PM) Neil Hume, FT (NH)

PM:
Hello and welcome
PM:
Lovely day again in London.
PM:
Stocks are down
PM:
This is Markets Live at FT Alphaville
PM:
Daily markets chat
NH:
Not that far – at the moment
NH:
Bouncing around a bit – footsie off just 3 points now at 4275 – bounced off 4255 earlier.
PM:
I know what you’re thinking.
PM:
You think I’m going to throw another wobbly and try to close out the short.
PM:
But I’ve been pouring over a chart sent over by the Grim Reaper earlier – Footsie’s broken both the 200 and 50 day moving averages on the downside.
PM:
NH:
No no, before you start prattling on about moving averages, I want to give people a proper story.
PM:
What, like price sensitive information?
NH:
Yeah, sort of.
PM:
Ummm. I’d forgotten we used to do that.
PM:
A deal, eh?
NH:
yeah one that’s partly known about
PM:
a seared stock story – not entirely raw.?
RAW is market chatter – information that has not been formally tested through traditional journalistic channels (PRs etc). The story might be complete rubbish, but if we believe there is some substance to it we will say so. Either way, Reader Beware.
NH:
well I would rate it quite highly
NH:
NH:
or
PM:
NH:
but everyone is a bit out of practise these days
PM:
INdeed — buit go on
PM:
let us have it
NH:
Chaucer, a Lloyds of London insurer
NH:
last week Brit Insurance said it was considering an all share offer
PM:
right
NH:
and we have the terms
PM:
which are?
NH:
0.23 of a Brit share for one Chaucer
PM:
that works out at around 40p, based on the current Brit share price of 174p
PM:
Chaucer currently trading at
PM:
er….
PM:
41.5p
PM:
PM:
so not very generous then
NH:
no and that’s important because there is another party interested in Brit
NH:
a Russian private equity fund fronted by a former Resolution executive
PM:
NH:
and they are offering, so we are told, 44p-45p in cash for a 29.9% stake in Chaucer
PM:
so Brit need to increase their offer
NH:
well, the word in the market is that shareholders would be prepared to accept something around 48p given the synergies etc that you would get from crunching the two companies together
NH:
a ratio of 0.27 Brit is being mentioned
PM:
that’s around 47p
NH:
yep and there is also talk that Brit could add a cash element and that it has been sounding investors about a £70m fund raising
PM:
PM:
hmmm
PM:
looks like this could turn into something of a battle
NH:
it already has
NH:
people close to Pamplona have been pointing out the recent poor performance of Brit
NH:
and the fact that it had its rating cut recently by Fitch
NH:
but Brit could be persuaded to increase its offer
NH:
because Chaucer’s hedge fund investments are said to have performed well recently
NH:
up by £30m
NH:
or something to that affect
PM:
okay — thanks for that
PM:
in terms of the synergies from a merger do we have any hard numbers on that
NH:
hang, I have a few bits of analyst comment I could put up
NH:
Here’s something from Credit Suisse
NH:
Although at this early stage there is no certainty over whether Brit will
be making an offer, the announcement does state that the financing would be all in shares.

• Rationale likely to be UK growth and diversification: We believe Brit is considering an acquisition of Chaucer to help build out
its UK operations, in particular in the motor market whilst also diversifying its portfolio. We estimate a combination of the two
books would see an increase in the proportion of short-tail lines of business from 35% to 55%.

• Acquisition price likely to be above 1x TNAV: We believe that any eventual offer for Chaucer is likely to be above £260.5m,
which we estimate to be its current tangible NAV, before taking into account accrued profits for the year. Any offer below
tangible book value is unlikely to appeal to Chaucer shareholders given continued interest from other parties, the strong
pricing environment in 2009, and improved investment returns. Media reports prior to Friday’s announcement had mentioned
a possible bid price in the region of £280m, which would be equivalent to 1.07x TNAV.

NH:
• Chaucer’s TNAV may be understated: Chaucer has a strong record of prior year reserve releases, suggesting that the current
TNAV could be understated. Chaucer has released on average 5.7% of opening net claims reserves since 2002, and if we
assume this can be sustained, it would imply an excess over best estimate of close to £50m. Put another way, to eliminate
any goodwill arising on the transaction, only 3% of Chaucer’s opening reserves need to be redundant.

• Valuation: We are reiterating our Neutral rating on Brit given the uncertainty surrounding any potential offer, with our target
price unchanged at 280p, suggesting 45% upside potential. The shares are currently trading on 0.8x P/TNAV and 9.9x our
2009E earnings which we have reduced by 39% to reflected gains on FX on non-monetary items in 2008 reversing in 2009

11:10AM
NH:
right, let’s move on
NH:
we have a lot of ungreatful readers muttering this is not very good
NH:
RAW
NH:
perhaps they would like an equation instead
NH:
bloody CFA’s
NH:
and yes we are fully aware Pamplona have been around for a while
11:11AM
NH:
Right
NH:
looks like we might have another Span filter problem
NH:
Paul is just checking
NH:
seems to have blocked Beefer
NH:
we may have change to the other filter
PM:
Nah — think it is okay — it just blocked some rubbish from Taxloss
PM:
Which is fine
NH:
so it working then
PM:
Taxloss — re-read the story
PM:
above
11:13AM
PM:
Now we must offer our congrates to James Montier and Albert Edwards, respectively No1 and No2 in the Extel strategy stakes.
NH:
Again. They top the strategy list every single year.
PM:
You did a post on Montier’s latest Mind Mattters earlier
NH:
Which other strategists that we know and love did well?
PM:
Andrew Garthwaite at CS was in there at no 3
PM:
And Teun ranked 4
NH:
How about individual stock analysts?
PM:
nice to see Draaisma well up the list.
PM:
Individuals…
PM:
Andrew Wood from Bernstein at the top.
NH:
Oh yes, he always wins. three years in a row.
PM:
Well, obviously he’s very good
PM:
Oh, Jonathan Pierce in there from CS – no 6
NH:
That’s across all sectors, right?
PM:
Yep.
PM:
You can get lots of the details here
PM:
and here
NH:
That’s enough gongs.
PM:
No, they are very important for analysts – you can turn Extel rankings in to hard cash.
NH:
What, like the pay rises we’re all getting for winning a Webby etc?
PM:
Oh, well that’s different
PM:
Don’t you know print media is in deep recession?
PM:
But let’s mvoe on
11:17AM
PM:
bear with us — Neil is just having to sign for something
PM:
Looks like tickets to something
PM:
Neil?
NH:
my Wimbledon tickets
PM:
Very nice
PM:
Court?
NH:
centre obviously
PM:
of course
NH:
and entry to the Debenture Holders’ Lounge
NH:
very nice
NH:
but look we have some breaking news
NH:
from Jeff Randall
Jeff Randall, the Telegraph’s Editor-at-Large is available for speaking engagements through The Gordon Poole Agency, the UK’s premier talent and speaker bureau. Fee group: £5k – £10k.
NH:
Former RBS chief Sir Fred Goodwin is likely to hand back up to half of his controversial pension payout, says Sky business presenter Jeff Randall.
NH:
“I understand that the Government, through UKFI and the Royal Bank of Scotland, is preparing a statement saying that Sir Fred Goodwin will be making a concession on his pension, giving some of that enormous pension back,” said Randall.

Randall said it was important to stress that a deal had not been done and something “could still go wrong”.

But he said

Public anger erupted when it emerged that ‘Fred The Shred’ was being paid £700,000 a year as part of his £16.6m pension agreement.

That anger turned into isolated acts of vandalism after Sir Fred insisted the contract be honoured.

Sir Fred is widely seen as the architect of RBS’s disastrous strategy of corporate acquisitions, which led to the bank’s downfall.

NH:
that’s from SkyNews
PM:
Mervyn linked to — over on the right
NH:
Randall has done a Peston
NH:
he has out Pestoned Pestowire
Top News from Top Sources. The BBC’s Business Editor, Robert Peston, has played in important role keeping the British public fully informed during these difficult times.
NH:
look at the language
NH:
I understand that the Government, through UKFI and the Royal Bank of Scotland, is preparing a statement saying that Sir Fred Goodwin
NH:
that’s classic Pesto language
NH:
but will this allow Fred to return to the UK
PM:
All business presenters on the box are doing this now
NH:
he was last sighted at a resort in Turkey
PM:
Woman on the BBC talking about Sainsburys yesterday
PM:
And suddenly it was all — “Justin King has told me…”
PM:
Along with all other hacks
NH:
they pay big money in TV
NH:
look at Mark Kleinman from the Sunday Tel
PM:
Anyway — why is Shred paying back the dosh now? The story has gone away
NH:
not sure
NH:
perhaps he is bored with Turkey
NH:
wants to come back to Blighty
NH:
right correction
NH:
Pestowire was first
NH:
by 2mins
PM:
NH:
he got this up at 11.12
NH:
vs 11.14am for Randall
PM:
So John Kingman called Pestowire before Randall
NH:
Sir Fred Goodwin, the former chief executive of Royal Bank of Scotland, has offered to reduce his pension.

Under the threat of legal action from RBS, Sir Fred has offered to reduce what he receives by £200,000 per annum.

This would reduce the value of his pension pot by around £4m.

However, he has already taken out a lump sum of £2.7m in cash from his pension pot.

And even after reducing his pension by £200,000 or so, he would still receive a pension of around £350,000 or so.

I understand that Royal Bank would be minded to agree this deal.

NH:
What’s less clear is whether the government – which owns 70% of RBS – will say that the concession is adequate.

Ministers may not wish to agree the deal, because Sir Fred would still be receiving more than would have been the case had he been dismissed rather than leaving on agreed terms.

11:24AM
PM:
I know what I meant to ask you – any further reaction to that Barc presentation in NY yesterday
PM:
??
NH:
Bob E Diamond, Jr – wanting to be the premier investment bank
NH:
Well, Robert Law’s come out with ANOTHER buy note.
PM:
Zzzzzzzz
PM:
He’s the Bank St boy, now at Nomura
NH:
Investment Conclusion
The BarCap presentation suggested confidence
that the Q1 performance from the division is not a
one off. We regard this as the principal driver of
the shares in the short term. We would
recommend Barclays among the UK banks, due to
its wholesale market leverage. The combination of
wholesale market revenues and reduction in group
leverage suggests Barclays can continue to grow
its way out of the higher levels of leverage and
unreserved legacy assets that it has.
NH:
Summary
Q1 revenue performance broadly sustainable.
RWA usage to fall; group continues to target lower
leverage over time even post BGI sale.
RoE of 15-20% targeted over the cycle; implies
divisional PBT of £3.5-4.5bn.
Current Europe/Asia build out in
equities/M&A/prime services targeted to add £5bn
to revenue over medium term. Expansion
managed within current p+l.
BarCap now #5 globally by revenues and #2
within Europe.
NH:

BarCap appears to have built a leading global franchise. Q1 revenues pre write-downs would place it number five globally and number two within Europe. This position includes the Lehman acquisition, which we estimate has lifted it from number seven by revenues and in particular has given it a position of scale in the US market; some 35-40% of Q1 revenues were derived from the US. BarCap management also argues that market leaders will continue to gain share and that universal banks will remain advantaged.
NH:
actually there’s loads more of it
NH:
but I just can’t put it up
NH:
we all know they are going to rule the world
PM:
What happens when Mervyn King suggests that BarCap should be separated from Barclays?
PM:
Eh?
NH:
that’s easy they will sell the high streeet banking business
NH:
obviously they will deny that first
PM:
NH:
and then shop it to someone
NH:
and hey presto
NH:
they get round Meryn’s Glass Steegall
NH:
and its off to the races
11:27AM
PM:
Where now
NH:
British Land
NH:
shares up a bit this morning
PM:
Up a penny at 387 i see
NH:
follows news that they are in talks, to sell a stake in Broadgate
PM:
that’s the big city office development next to Liverpool Street station

- for our non London readers

PM:
it has an ice rink with a Corney & Barrow above it
NH:
yes, very classy
NH:
anyway, we think one of the bidders is
NH:
this lot
NH:
Property & Building Corp in talks on Broadgate. Property & Building Corp sent a statement to the Tel Aviv Stock Exchange that it is in talks with British Land to buy a minority stake in Broadgate for around £100m. (Source: Bloomberg) As we have said before, we believe a (partial) disposal of Broadgate would be positive for British land, as it would degear the company balance sheet twice as fast (100% of debt will go off balance sheet), the company may start to look at other opportunities and reduces its City office exposure (and future capex).
11:29AM
NH:
anyway
NH:
aren’t you glad we did not close the bear position
NH:
look at this morning’s roll call of bad news
NH:
more rights issue: GKN and Martson’s
PM:
But rights were supposed to be good for share prices
PM:
ie send them up
NH:
not even more. they are only good when a stock is priced for oblivion. not when they are poised for recovery
PM:
Anyway — two more rights
NH:
which means there is just one more out there
PM:
yes, you said four cash calls this week
PM:
we have had Sainsbury, GKN and Marston’s
NH:
I reckon the last one is a property company
NH:
analysts reckon Derwent and Quintain Estates needs to raise some equity
NH:
on top of the cash calls
NH:
a couple of nasty profit warnings
NH:
one if from Mouchel
PM:
???
NH:
one of those supposedly defence outsourcing companies
PM:
ha
NH:
shares have lost almost a third of their value this morning after a warning
NH:
while SIG, a builders’ merchant that recently tapped shareholders, for cash has lost a fifth of its value after an unscheduled trading statement
SIG (SHI:LSE): Last: 95.25, down 19.75 (-17.17%), High: 97.00, Low: 82.25, Volume: 18.22m
NH:
Mouchel off 69.2p at 164.5p, a fall of 30%
NH:
on top of all that
NH:
we had the moving average stuff you referred to early
NH:
so all is set fair
NH:
4,000 here we come
NH:
admittedly it could all be mucked up by tomorrow’s triple witching
PM:
hmm been hearing a lot about that
PM:
lots of theories doing the rounds
NH:
yeah, the main seems to be that all this gamma hedging is keeping markets in a very tight range
PM:
NH:
and they could break out – possibly to the upside
NH:
which would be bad for H&M Capital Management
PM:
We can wear it — nerves of steal
PM:
and a 4444 stop loss
NH:
hang on
NH:
got a note from a trader this morning on this gamma stuff
NH:
here’s his theory as to what is going on
NH:
I clearly think that the street is long gamma (LONG OPTIONS) because at these levels the vols are really cheap ahead summertime, the situation is not that clear and the market is too high. On the other side asset managers may be short call as a kind of profit taking from their long equity position. The first will need to rebalance the gamma (i.e. buy market each time it is higher) but not the long only managers.
NH:
If I am right, in that case the market should trade only higher. It is not the case, so I think long only players may be selling some of their long equity position when long gammas are playing on the index. All in all it may be neutral.
NH:

I think everyone may apply the same strategy after next week expiry. Their targets are not the same; traders buy cheap vol on the other side long only players are happy to get premium by selling out of the money calls after a massive rally.
PM:
er, thanks for that
PM:
in the interests of balance
PM:
People accuse us of being perma bears for some reason
PM:
JP Morgan remains bullish
PM:
have a look at this
PM:

For the past 2 months many have been hoping for a correction,
ultimately to be able to enter the market at better levels. So, should the
most recent weakness be seen in a more negative light, as perhaps a start
of a more significant, 10-20 percent leg down?
PM:
We highlight the following:

• 1. The key underlying driver which made the rally of the past 3 months
possible, the stabilisation in credit, remains on track, in our view. HG
and HY spreads have not widened over the past few days in either the US
or Europe. As of 16th June close, compared to a week ago, 9th June, US
HG and HY are actually tighter by 11bp and 3bp respectively, and by
9bp and 3bp in Europe. Credit is not the catalyst for this weakness.

• 2. The correction is in a sense self-correcting as the risk free rates are
moving back down, with 10year US yields lower by almost 30bp since
the latest high, and 2year by almost 20bp. Therefore, one of the key
recent market concerns, the back-up in risk free rates, is being addressed.
It would surely be much more worrying if equities were starting to
weaken against a backdrop of a sell-off in government bonds, driven by a
failed auction, for example.

PM:

• Mortgage rates, which have moved higher by 80bp over the past few
weeks, have over the last 3 days come back down by 20bp. The back-up
in rates which was seen as potentially choking off the nascent consumer
recovery is self-correcting. A similar point could be made with respect to
commodity prices, whose rapid advance over the past few months started
to worry investors, but they are leveling off as well.

PM:
oka?
11:35AM
NH:
thanks
PM:
just going back to GKN
PM:
any reaction to the cash call?
PM:
£400m odd right
NH:
yes
NH:
actually we got wind of this yesterday and put it in the market report
NH:
quite amusing story
NH:
the top brass of GKN were all at the Paris airshow yesterday
NH:
when suddenly they have to cut short there trip and return to London
NH:
because they were about to sign off on a rights
NH:
and amazingly that’s exactly what happened
NH:
the stock was very weak first thing on the news
NH:
and very weak yesterday on the rumour
NH:
but has rallied since, everyone thinks the cash call is pretty sensible idea
PM:
GKN down 1.5 at 117.5
PM:
which is not bad reaction at all
NH:
no
NH:
the reaction to Martson’s has been much more
NH:
Marston’s being the old Wolverhampton & Dudley pub company
NH:
anywhere here’s a couple of bits of comment
NH:
Cazenove
NH:
Capital raising announced – GKN has announced a capital increase with a view to raising
£423m (£403m net of expenses). This would provide a more robust capital structure and
improve the group’s flexibility.

NH: While the group has no liquidity or covenant issues going forward, the management are taking a prudent approach to prepare for the refinancing of the group’s revolving credit facility (“RCF”) in
July 2010 and the maturing of the £325m bond in 2012. We expect current steps to improve the group’s prospects of securing an investment grade credit rating ahead of refinancing the bond

NH:
We would expect the new RCF to be scaled back as a result of the improved balance sheet structure and extra liquidity. Furthermore, the RCF is likely to be renewed on more favourable terms than might have been available without the more robust capital structure which should result from the capital increase. We are maintaining our OUTPERFORM recommendation.
NH:
and Citi
NH:
GKN (GKN.L; £1.19; 3M) announced this morning a 6 for 5 rights
issue of up to 820m of new shares with gross proceeds of around £423m. This
represents a 35% dilution and lowers GKN’s current gearing from 110% to just
on 40%. We estimate post rights EPS of 8p (pre-rights of 14p), which is 10x
earnings based on theoretical ex-rights price of 81.3p. We believe that the
rights issue is big enough to solve the debt issues surrounding GKN given that
a lot of additional GKN indebtedness is not due to mature until 2013. However,
alongside with the right issue announcement, GKN updated on the current
trading environment, the main issue is how much forecasts have to come
down..
PM:
cheers for that
PM:
Anything more on the matter?
NH:
not really
NH:
although a lot of noses are in the trough for this cash call
NH:
check out the number of advisers, book runners, hangers on
NH:
and remember this is not Rio raising $15bn, but a mid cap engineer
NH:
raising £400m
NH:
The Rights Issue is fully underwritten by J.P. Morgan Securities, UBS Investment Bank, HSBC Bank and RBS Hoare Govett. J.P. Morgan Cazenove and UBS Investment Bank are acting as joint sponsors and joint bookrunners to the Rights Issue and Gleacher Shacklock, J.P. Morgan Cazenove and UBS Investment Bank are acting as joint financial advisers to GKN. HSBC Bank and RBS Hoare Govett are acting as co-managers to the Rights Issue.
PM:
PM:
that is hilarious
NH:
was all that collective brainpower really needed
NH:
it was a straight forward cash call afterall
NH:
anyway
11:40AM
PM:
Now, before we move on
PM:
we want to go back…
PM:
to a comment at 11.30
PM:
Grassy Knoll Jun 18 11:30
Peculiar: Pesto’s story has a timestamp of 11:12am, but in the HTML metadata it says 11:18am. Most curious.
NH:
hmmmm
PM:
That is intriguing
NH:
surely they would not stoop so low
PM:
Note that Reuters are attribting the Shred story to Sky
PM:
But Pesto story is time stamped a couple of mins earlier
PM:
Unless grassy Knoll is on to something….
NH:
this could get nasty, like when the investment banks starting fighting over their positions in the deal leagues
PM:
indeed
NH:
but Silver Fox
NH:
says Pesto hit the TV before Jeff
NH:
can we get timings on that
11:43AM
NH:
some breaking news
PM:
Irish news
NH:
RTRS-IRELAND LIKELY TO PUBLISH “BAD BANK” LEGISLATION AFTER PARLIAMENT GOES INTO RECESS-SOURCE
11:39 18Jun09 RTRS-LEGISLATION WILL DETAIL THE METHODOLOGY OF DISCOUNTING THE BANK ASSETS TO BE TRANSFERRED-SOURCE
11:39 18Jun09 RTRS-IRISH “BAD BANK” LEGISLATION WILL NOT CONTAIN A SET DISCOUNT-SOURCE
NH:
and some RAW
NH:
and hopefully this will go down better than Chaucer
NH:
Dana Petroleum
NH:
rumours of a £18 a share bid
PM:
Nah, shouldnt spoil em Neil
PM:
This is raw.
Dana Petroleum (DNX:LSE): Last: 1,268, up 24 (+1.93%), High: 1,286, Low: 1,242, Volume: 473.41k
PM:
Dont buy the shares
PM:
18 sound a tad heroic
NH:
it does
NH:
but oil is the hot M&A sector at the moment
PM:
Market generally is under pressure
PM:
oil hot on Chinese M&A chatter
PM:
Bit overblown to my mind
PM:
Was there something out of Citi this morning on this theme?
NH:
yes
NH:
a bit of fantasy M&A
NH:
OK, so which mining company will the Chinese by next?
PM:
after the Rio debacle they will probably hold fire
NH:
possibily
NH:
but China still needs raw materials
PM:
well, when you put it that way
NH:
(general chatter on that one TL)
PM:
perhaps they will buy Lonmin or something like that
NH:
well, the mining team at Citigroup have been looking at all of the possible options
NH:
and the conclusion is quite surprising
PM:
go on
NH:
there really isn’t much in the UK they can buy.
NH:
here’s the note
NH:
Back to drawing board — The failure of the Chinalco-RIO deal was a reminder that
China recognises the need to secure access to raw material supply by direct
offshore ownership of either projects or companies. We believe China will be
project focused but may have interest in some mid-cap miners as well.
NH:
Focus on copper, iron ore & metcoal — While Chinalco is primarily an aluminium
producer, we do not believe that either Chinalco or the Chinese state sees the
pursuit of aluminium as a high priority. We examine what China really needs and
conclude that its focus will be on copper, iron ore and metallurgical coal.
NH:
Control blocs would be a challenge — The UK Mid-Cap miners would offer China
and its mining groups a challenge: Vedanta, Antofagasta, Kazakhmys, ENRC,
Ferrexpo and New World Resources all have large ownership blocs which would
make a takeover difficult or onerously expensive. Even in aluminium and platinum,
likely not on China’s shopping list, Norsk Hydro and Lonmin have big share blocs.
NH:
State resistance has to be considered — In other groups there is likely to be
resistance on the part of the state in cases where there is such state ownership;
these include Kazakhmys, ENRC and Norsk Hydro.

First Quantum looks the best fit — The most obvious ‘fit’ we see in terms of
desirability of the metal and loose institutional ownership is First Quantum. Its
geographic location, while perhaps challenging for some of the larger miners, may
not be seen as a negative by the Chinese as Africa is the one big relatively
untapped copper province and could be key to China’s long-term economic future.

NH:
Staying with the miners for a moment
NH:
a couple of upgrades around on Xstrata this morning
NH:
which of course
NH:
has been the centre of some fantasy M&A as well
NH:
merging with Ango American
NH:
the notes are from Citi and MOST
NH:
can put them up if readers want to see them
PM:
yeah, go for it
NH:
OK then
NH:
Citi first
NH:
Upgrade to BUY, £8.50/sh TP — Balance sheet concerns are abating and over the next 6-12 months, we expect growth to come back on to the agenda. XTA has a large portfolio of unapproved projects that could add £1.9-3.9/sh in incremental value, and sufficient FCFs to develop. Short-term risks aside, we expect XTA to outperform peers into a recovery and we upgrade to BUY.

Geared to recovery — Commodity mix provides significant leverage to improving
macro conditions. Of the UK majors, XTA has the greatest exposure to base metals.
Base metals will take the lead into an economic recovery, providing XTA with
superior earnings momentum. The company’s cost base is also improving in nickel
and zinc providing additional margin expansion potential.

NH:
XTA for Anglo? — Mining M&A speculation is back. A combination of AAL and XTA makes financial and strategic sense and could create synergies of up to $750m pa (NPV of $7.3bn / 11% of the combined MC). The combined entity would be a
global leader in base metals, platinum, ferrochrome and coal.

Culture clash — Debt levels and political sensitivities in South Africa make a hostile
deal unlikely. A merger-type deal would limit the level of cost savings. Anglo’s
reluctance to do a deal and the stark difference in corporate cultures make a tie-up
a possibility rather than a probability, in our view.

NH:
Short-term outlook finely balanced — Metal prices have made strong gains YTD,
driven by robust Chinese industrial activity / restocking. A seasonal slowdown and
lower imports into China could put downward pressure on prices; however, global
(ex China) restocking in H209 could lend some support. The US$, investment flows
and risk appetite will be key directional drivers near term

NH:
and MOST
NH:
We upgrade Xstrata to Overweight and increase our price target from 385p to 855p (19% upside potential) as the investment case shifts from a play on just commodity price leverage to one of divisional transformation, which is probably the most under-appreciated aspect of the investment case. For example, in nickel and zinc, asset reorganisation could move Xstrata from a third-quartile to a low second-quartile cost producer, adding c18p of EPS (another £2.2/share) on our estimates in 3 years. It already has one of the world’s best coal businesses, and we think its
copper business has the best organic growth potential of the large-cap miners. The stock is still 70% off its peak in 2Q08 although it has more than doubled from the bottom (vs. the sector up 80%). It trades on an 8.5x normalised P/E, and on a 2-3 year view still presents one of the most compelling risk-reward cases in our coverage, and could easily double again, in our view
NH:
and I have something on copper
NH:
Caz predicting a slowdown in demand over the summer
NH:
Mining – Copper – summer slowdown ahead? Sector: Overweight
China has been the ‘only game in town’ for copper demand since the turn of the year recording astonishingly strong levels of imports driven by factors including a shortage of scrap, strong end demand from power distribution and residential construction as part of the infrastructure stimulus package, and strategic stockpiling by both the SRB and other traders taking advantage of weak pricing. However recent datapoints are giving us cause to expect some reversal.
NH:
LME copper inventories have started to rise modestly, up 10kt from the 3 May low. There have been two large inflows over 10kt in a single day since the start of June. This is of course part of the normal seasonal inventory build one would expect to see (see chart) as we move into the traditionally slower summer period, both for OECD and to some degree China. Comex and Shanghai stocks have started to rise in the last month as well. The increase in Shanghai stocks was the largest monthly gain in the last year and now stand at their highest levels since March 2007.
NH:
Cancelled warrants, a fairly reliable indicator of future inventory draw-downs have fallen significantly and rapidly over the past week, down 14% yesterday to 17.9kt, -43% over the past week and -69% over the past month. They currently stand at 7% of LME inventory, from a peak of 20% in May. This suggests the rate of inventory draw we have seen since the peak on April 30 is likely to slow materially. We would note this relates to only the ‘out’ side of the ledger so does not account for potential inflows.
NH:
The Shanghai premium over the LME has reversed and now favours Chinese exports. This suggests that demand is decelerating within China and that imports are likely to slow materially in coming months. This ties with substantial increases in scrap availability highlighted in last month’s import data as well as normal seasonal patterns of Chinese demand.
NH:
Chinese cathode spot premia have fallen for three consecutive weeks from the $130-$180/t level to $100-$130/t in the first week of June.
• LME open interest has fallen substantially in the last week alongside lower prices suggesting longs have been liquidated. Interestingly Comex speculative net short positions have yet to increase suggesting further vulnerability.
We would caveat further that we have not seen anything like the level of supply response in copper as experienced in other base metals, mainly as a result of a lower cost curve and higher prices meaning the entire industry is currently cash positive. We estimate the tenth decile of the cost curve stood at around $1.55/lb as reported by KCM in Q1. However, some of the pressures that brought the cost curve down are now reversing – these include USD weakness, higher fuel and oil derivative costs (explosives etc) and freight rates.
NH:
Stock implications: any move in copper pricing is important for the sector as a whole although it is now only the third biggest contributor to sector earnings (8% of 2009 sector earnings we estimate) behind iron ore and coal. The most leveraged stocks to a 10% move in the copper price are the pure plays Kazakhmys (10% chg = 37% on 2009 EPS) and Antofagasta (27% on EPS). Among the diversifieds, Xstrata is most leveraged (11.5% on EPS) followed by Anglo (8.3%) and BHP Billiton (3.5%).

NH:
opps
NH:
sorry that was a bit long
NH:
but quite interesting I think
NH:
(Ferret we may be able to do that and put it up in the Long Room)
11:54AM
PM:
We were going to have a bit of luxury
PM:
Got a Bernstein note on the back of the FT’s Business of Luxury Conference in …
PM:
Monaco.
NH:
Not the thing that Sam’s at
NH:
It’s an annual FT conference that moves around the world. Mr Lionel just got back from it. Breezed through the newsroom yesterday looking generally tanned and relaxed.
PM:
Anyway, here’s what Luca Solca at Bernstein is saying
PM:
Deciphering the luxury goods market is now very difficult. On the one hand, investors have to be mindful
of likely lower structural luxury growth medium-term, as a more subdued level of macro-economic
development is to be expected (please see our research report “The Long View: The Future of Luxury
Goods Growth and Valuation Multiples”, published on June 11th 2009). On the other hand, hard data points
to continuing strength in Asian demand (please see our research report “Our Proprietary ‘Pulse Check’ in
China Highlights Resilient Luxury Demand Growth”, published on June 4th 2009) and reasonable
expectations of US luxury demand bottoming out by the end of the year.
As we note strong investor appetite for hard luxury stocks, in this research report we try to decipher the
different outlook and catalysts that could affect Richemont and Swatch. We conclude that there are more
positive short-term catalysts at play for Swatch, as it should stand to gain from its geographic exposure,
price point focus, and – as we expect de-stocking to turn in 2H09E – higher wholesale exposure. Lack of a
jewelry business – the most resilient portion of CFR – and likely deterioration in the production division are
the caveats that stop us short of an outright positive stance on the stock. We will watch these elements
closely in coming updates.
On the basis of an expanded market multiple, we have increased our price targets for both Swatch and
Richemont. We rate Swatch a market-perform with an increased price target of CHF 195 (formerly CHF
178) and rate Richemont a market-perform with an increased price target of CHF 22 (formerly CHF 19.5)

11:55AM
NH:
jeepers
NH:
the FT is under spam attack
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spam getting through out filter
PM:
Been going on all morning
NH:
just got one titled
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Chief asks for you’
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All this spam is coming in — and it is generating loads and loads of autoreplies
NH:
yeah, work up this morning and looked up my Blackberry
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and there were hundreds of out of office replys
NH:
hmmmm
NH:
this Dana story
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I thought it was chatter
NH:
not so sure now
NH:
being taken seriously
PM:
Prometheus was repeatedly asking for abandit rating
PM:
I was just going to ignore him
PM:
We don’t have full details — but something is afoot
NH:
no, the idea seems to be the bidder is European
PM:
We can’t apply a bandit rating as yet
NH:
but a UK company might come in if someone makes a move
NH:
shares moving up
Dana Petroleum (DNX:LSE): Last: 1,261, up 17 (+1.37%), High: 1,286, Low: 1,242, Volume: 481.00k
PM:
Hold for a mo
PM:
Stock is actually up 6.5% currently
PM:
This remains a completely raw situ
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Reader beward
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stock is up 77p at 13.21
PM:
The story was winging around a bit yesterday — so it is not exactly fresh raw either
PM:
A bid would value the business at around 2.5bn i think
PM:
But — repeat repeat — this is just a rumour doing the rounds
NH:
Total seems to be the name in the frame
PM:
But then the name Total gets attached to loads of bid stories
PM:
Still Dana flying now
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Up 101p at 13.45
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up almost 9%
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Almost 10%
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13.70 quote
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Gapping now
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11%
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While since we saw something like this on ML
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Repeat _ RAW — reader beware
NH:
very RAW
PM:
Switchboard lightup here
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Wll, mobiles are
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Everyone has a version of this story
PM:
no
PM:
okay , brief pause…
12:05PM
PM:
IN teh background all sorts of names are now being linked with Dana Petroleum
PM:
We have no idea whether the story of a bid is true
NH:
just looking at the Dana website to see where they have big ops
PM:
But the stock has seen such action over the past 20 mins or so that something has to come out — statement wise
NH:
looks like North Sea and Egypt
NH:
Europe continued to dominate Group production at 71%, with a marked increase in the proportion of gas at 37%, compared to 22% in 2007. Overall field performance was good, with Dana benefiting from the effect of a significant portfolio, and in general where fields underperformed relative to plan this was due to facility downtime related issues rather than subsurface performance.
PM:
Had to reject a couple of comments to the right
PM:
Please dont try and pump prices
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And please try to avoid libel
PM:
Potential libel
NH:
right the rumour I am hearing now
NH:
is that the bidder is RWE
NH:
not sure if that makes sense
NH:
which is not as silly as it may seem
NH:
they own Npower
NH:
and might need more power for their customers
NH:
right
NH:
that’s it for today’s session
NH:
Paul has another speech to give
NH:
which means more cash for the Webby drinks fund
NH:
and any other PRs out there
PM:
Look at this dana price now
PM:
Up 15%
NH:
Paul is available for speeches
PM:
14.30 a moment a go
PM:
Okay — we are off
PM:
Thanks for most of the comments
PM:
Back tomorrow at 11am
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