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Markets live transcript 24 Feb 2009

Markets live chat transcript for the chat ending at 12:12 on 24 Feb 2009. Participants in this chat were: Paul Murphy, FT (PM) Neil Hume, FT (NH)

PM:
Hi there – welcome to Markets Live
PM:
AV’s markets chat.
PM:
For one reason or another had quite a bad tempered day so far.
PM:
But we’re sure the next hour so we help calm things down.
PM:
Ive screwed up
PM:
mucho apologies
PM:
I started earlier — said 11.04 on my system clock
PM:
I thought Neil had gone AWOL
PM:
Was busy reading Bob J from RBS in the LR
PM:
We worth a read that
PM:
Glanced at the clock and thought — hey, better get posting
PM:
Yes, had a very bad tempered morning, for one reason or another
NH:
Morning, all
PM:
NH:
at least one of us is on time
PM:
People better watch it below — i feel trigger happy
PM:
Anyone feeling upbeat cane read this
http://ftalphaville.ft.com/longroom/tables/the-wall-of-worry/bobs-world-even-einstein-couldnt-short-circuit-time
NH:
yep, readers beware
NH:
we are itching to zap this morning
NH:
everyone here in a very grumpy mood today
11:03AM
PM:
Wider market?
NH:
I must admit, I though we were going to take a battering
NH:
actually I had complied a list of things that would push us lower
NH:
here it is
NH:
From London Dow down 190 to close 250 lower at 7114
NH:
Daq down 30 to finish 53 lower at 1387
NH:
S&P fell 19 to close 26 lower at 743
NH:
S&P closed at its lowest level since April 1997 whilst the Dow fell to its lowest level since May 1997
NH:
A broker d/g to PC sales hurt Apple down 5%.
NH:
Steel stocks hit hard US Steel down 13%. Materials index down 6.2%.
NH:
After hours JP Morgan +2.7% cut its divi to 5c from 38c but had no change to its outlook.
NH:
but
NH:
the market opened flat
NH:
it even got into positive territory briefly
NH:
but now
NH:
we are starting to sell off
NH:
down 45 points at 3,805
PM:
Reggie’s given us a good target below
PM:
Nov’s closing low of 3780
PM:
Ncie fat target 24 points below where we now stand
NH:
I shoudl say the JP Morgan trading statement has helped settle a few nerves
NH:
and here are the highlights
NH:
Directors has reduced the company’s quarterly common stock dividend from $0.38 to $0.05 per share, effective for the dividend payable April 30, 2009, to shareholders of record on April 6, 2009. The Board anticipates maintaining this level for the time being. This action will enable the company to retain an additional $5 billion in common equity per year.
NH:
First-quarter 2009 financial performance quarter-to-date is solidly profitable even after significant additions to reserves, and the outlook for the quarter is roughly in line with analyst expectations.
“While we recognize our tremendous obligation to shareholders to maintain dividend levels, we also understand that extraordinary times require extraordinary measures. Our action today is being done as a strong precautionary measure to help ensure that our fortress balance sheet remains intact – even if conditions worsen significantly. As always, our highest obligation during an economic crisis is to keep our company and franchise healthy, vibrant and strong for the future,” said Jamie Dimon, Chief Executive Officer.
NH:
“While our performance and capital are already strong, today’s action provides us with maximum flexibility to protect our company in a more highly stressed environment and to continue to build and invest in our market-leading businesses. Today’s capital action is not directly related to TARP. Our reason for accepting TARP capital still holds — namely to help stabilize the banking system and economy. The decision to retain additional common equity does, however, help position our company to repay TARP as soon as is prudent — and still maintain a strong capital position. Our repayment of TARP will ultimately be worked out in consultation with the U.S. Treasury and other regulators, and in consideration of the best interests of the banking system overall,” Dimon added.
PM:
JPM looks a little bit like a bank to me Neil. Dont want to scare aware the readers.
NH:
indeed and we shall make no further comment on that trading statement
NH:
although in the current climate, that’s not a bad performance IMO
NH:
re the FTSE outperforming
NH:
that’s only in local currency terms
NH:
addjusted for dollar things don’t look as good
NH:
we also have some big dollar earners that pay divis in dollars
NH:
that helps too
NH:
and some big defensive stocks
NH:
outside of the FTSE 100 things do not so good
PM:
Neil is just pulling up the mi 250
PM:
Havent looked at that for ages
PM:
Mid 250 even
PM:
Looks some way off its Nov 08 lows
PM:
Dropped a good wasy below 5600 then
PM:
Currently trading around 5800
PM:
Precisely even
PM:
Down 2% exactly — compared to 1% loss on the Footsie
11:11AM
PM:
What about some strategy stuff Neil — see how the Footsie stands up to it
NH:
well, here’s something bullish. don’t have the note yet but we are on the case
NH:
JPMORGAN’S LEE SETS `SHORT-TERM’ TARGET OF 800 FOR S&P 500
NH:
and here’s some bearish
NH:
from Bob the Bear at RBS
NH:
he’s their chief credit strategist
NH:
and nice writer
PM:
Lively guy
NH:
Life can be frustrating. After all, I AM a Liverpool FC supporter, a
club which has to rank as one of the most frustrating teams EVER to
support. But rather than getting riled by Rafa, my frustrations are
instead being primarily driven NOT by the illness affecting the global
economy and financial system, but rather by all the noise that is
accompanying this illness.
NH:
Upfront, I will say that the Credit Crunch (or whatever ‘this’ is called
these days…it’s certainly no longer ‘just’ a Sub-prime crisis!) WAS
‘forecastable’. Anyone who disagrees needs to dis-own the utter claptrap
that was the Greenspan (remember him!!!! & yes, he WAS knighted by our
Queen) Fed’s approach to bubbles (ignore them, just fix them when they
burst with MORE easy money and even MORE leverage), and they need to get
real. Of course NOBODY could have predicted EXACTLY how the bursting of
the debt bubble would play out. But to deny there was a unprecedented
debt bubble back in 2006/2007 when the evidence was clear and when quite
a few of us were trying to provide as many warnings as we could must (I
think) have required a thought process which is – even now – beyond me.
NH:
So I am frustrated that not many folks listened and acted upon these
warnings going back at least 2yrs. Actually, some even took the opposite
view. Hmmmm. But I am now equally frustrated that – if I go by what’s in
the media (financial and mainstream) – the whole world is now full of so
called experts who ‘called’ the crisis. Funny, as when I think back to
late 2006 and early 2007, when the sub-prime market had already cracked,
those prepared to listen to me were few and far between. But now
EVERYONE called it! Actually, scrap ‘Funny’ as I am almost inclined to
cry instead. But what is really frustrating is that these same ‘experts’
either keep calling the bottom, keep telling me that policy initiative
X/Y/Z will fix the ills, and even more so, these same ‘experts’ are I
fear providing the bulk of the advise to policymakers who are trying to
get us out of the crisis. Forgive me, but I cannot see how talking
advice from folks who couldn’t see this crisis coming even when the
tsunami was starring them in the face can be of any real benefit.
Perhaps policymakers should take a chance and talk to some of the folks
who actually saw this coming, who understand why this crisis developed,
and who have been warning of the consequences of the bursting of the
bubble. You never know, maybe such folks might have an idea as to how to
move forward….Thankfully at least some national policy makers ARE now
listening to such people…
NH:
I could rant on (I HAD a whole paragraph on the current zeitgeist of
banker bashing…) but I’ll stop now, as I am sure I would eventually
end up upsetting someone. Lets move on to what I think right now:
NH:
1 – Trying to fix a debt crisis by encouraging EVEN MORE BORROWING is
not, to me, a smart plan. Most recently this is what Bush and Greenspan
engineered post 2001/2002, where they ‘forced’ indebtedness (away from
the corporate sector and) onto the consumer sector. Yes, it may have
created the illusion of wealth and good times from early 2003 to (say)
early 2007, but I trust you all now accept this was merely an illusion.
A combo of gross negligence w.r.t monetary policy and ‘not quite the
truth’ w.r.t. measuring REAL inflation (I have said for YEARS that the
way the US in particular measures GDP and CPI was giving us the wrong
read) together gave us the illusion of wealth. Hiding disclosure on M3
was for me the very early warning sign. Ignoring asset price inflation
when measuring ‘official’ inflation was the ONGOING warning sign. The
debt crisis we are in now is – in large part – a product of these ills.
So to think we can borrow and spend our way out now/again is I think
quite wrong.
NH:
2 – The Obama fiscal package is NOT a solution. It is heavy on headline,
but the real detail is much less impressive. What I find weird is that
others don’t see this. The Obama package is merely meant to MITIGATE the
worst impacts of a deep and prolonged recession. It is NOT the solution.
Look at the package net of the collapse in state level spending. Look at
the way the planned spending is spread out over yrs. And ask yourself
this – will YOU save or spend the tax cuts? To me, the answer is an
OBVIOUS one – to save. Finally, ask yourselves this: You think Obama
wants 1 term or 2? If he wants 2 terms, do you think he is best served
by trying to spend his way out of trouble NOW and risk facing a serious
inflation problem in 2011/2012, or is he best served by really opening
up the spending taps in 2010/2011, ahead of the next election, when any
inflation risk is pushed back into his possible 2nd term? I think this
is a no-brainer. Just consider Volcker – Reagan back in the early 80s.
History is a good guide I think….
NH:
3 – More broadly, has YOUR propensity to borrow and spend gone up? Or
has YOUR propensity to Save and Save gone up? The Baby Boomer
generations have seen their asset wealth and risk asset based savings
collapse as they head into retirement. I think the critical issue here
is that Savings Rates (in the West) are going to climb and climb for
many years. This is good – but the transitional part of this journey is
painful. As such, even if Borrow and Spend is what our leaders decide is
the way out, then we need to consider how many folks and what sort of
folks will lever up at a time of falling asset prices and rising
unemployment. Hmmmmm.
NH:
4 – I think we are at a point where investment banking operations around
the world are ‘clean-ish’. But we are also now approaching a point where
some policy makers – notably in the UK & US – are beginning to
understand that this is NOT just a CDO/investment banking problem, but
that actually core lending books of traditional banking operations are
at risk. The potential scale of such ‘losses’ or potential losses are I
think a leap forward from the bulk of the losses to date. Maybe this is
why the Geithner speech from a few weeks ago was so ‘vague’ – after all,
maybe Geithner too understands this, and maybe he has no desire to
communicate this to the world just yet, for fear of sparking another
meltdown in markets. For my part, I think the realisation of the scale
of these embedded losses/potential losses is GOING to happen later this
year, and WILL lead to the next significant leg lower in equities, wider
in credit spreads, and lower in govvie bond yields as re-inflationnary
policies are seen as failing/not working quickly enuff.
NH:
5 – Many millions of folks are deluded into thinking that this is just a
US and UK banking sector problem. No Way. Europe is in at least a big a
mess as the UK/US – there is simply a lag. This applies to the banking
losses/problems, the real economy, to ECB rate cuts, to the EURO (soon)
taking up the UGLIEST CURRENCY baton from GBP, which in turn took the
baton from the USD. And the sector which I think will suffer the MOST is
that which the perma-bulls still think will deliver us from evil.
Namely, the Emerging Markets. In fact, once this is all over and we
reminisce, I fully agree with my Chief Economist, Kevin Gaynor, who has
said for a year that EM and Euro risk assets will suffer – relatively -
the highest losses vs UK/US.
NH:
6 – This year we will see NEGATIVE real AND nominal G7 GDP – this is
TERRIBLE for jobs, profits and defaults – the 1st time ever. I am
fearing G7 real GDP at -4% or so this yr. And abt zero grwth over 2010.
We will also see – again for the 1st time ever – NEGATIVE Global grwth,
with CHINA a major problem, not a major support. Folks looking to China
as a solution don’t get it. Sure, the Shanghai Comp is up some 25% this
year. But really, am I REALLY meant to forget that this index is, even
now, DOWN OVER 60% from its highs!!!!!
NH:
6 – What the mrkt I think doesn’t yet accept is that (in the West)
DEFLATION is thrashing the pants off of inflation, and the mrkt
stubbornly hangs onto the view that US/UK policymakers can create
inflation (and thus NOMINAL grwth). I think that eventually – if one
debases ones currency enuff and if one is prepared to stick 2 fingers up
to the world and suffer the consequences – then this is indeed true. But
I think policy makers are having/fear having their bluff’s called and as
a result being exposed as butt-naked. So in other words, policymakers
will tread very carefully on this point. YES, they may be successful in
scaring some of us into believing that the HELICOPTERS not only are
ready, but that they also WILL work. But in reality, they worry so much
abt letting an uncontrollable inflation monster free, or at least
sparking off a global game of currency debasement, that actually I think
that for now, and for several more quarters (until it is REALLY REALLY
BAD), policymakers shud be more feared for their BARK rather than their
BITE.
NH:
7 – All of which to me means that this is all gonna get worse before we
get the next quantum leap forward in both full disclosure AND
policymaker intervention, and before it gets better. And the REAL HEALER
will be TIME and falling ASSET PRICES, combined with rather than because
of any policy magic. In other words, rising defaults and powerful
deflation will trump all/any (nominal) +ve’s for much/most/all of this
year.
NH:

The other big part of the inflation deflation debate is this: The EM
world is STILL much more prone to inflationary busts than the G7. It
will be wise to understand that inflation for some DOES NOT mean
inflation for all – there are AT LEAST some decent lags.
What does this all mean for investors. Simple I think, at least on a top
down year ahead asset allocation. I like G7 govvies – esp. Euro govvies
(no, I do NOT think that the EMU project breaks-up this yr/next). I
think at some point later/late this yr 10yr yields on Gilts, USTs and
Bunds will be at/below 2%. Talk to David Ader and his crew for their
thgts.
Personally, at a top down level, I do not like global equities. I can
see some reason – purely driven around the relatively different likely
inflation/deflation outcomes – to like EM equities relative to G7
equities, and to like some sectors over others (Ian Richards is our
expert), but I still think that on an absolute basis global stock
markets will all be 30/40% lower later this year. Think 550 on the
S&P500 and Shanghai back at sub-1500.
NH:
I do think EM Fx is a major sell vs G7 Fx. In G7, take USDs and GBPs
over EUROs – Dave Simmonds, Alan Ruskin and teams can fill you in in
full. The obvious ‘likes’ are JPY and CHF but currency intervention will
be seen to weaken these too vs USDs. I really like Gold and Crude on a
multi-yr basis. In the next 2/3 yrs gold could easily hit $2000 and
Crude can easily revisit the highs of last yr and higher. These assets
are the natural hedge against EVENTUAL policymaker ‘success’ and are a
great hedge against rampant EM currency devals and EM inflation.
Remember – the West gave up the right to make much of anything, most of
all commodities – to the EM world, as a result of which THEIR inflation
will eventually become OUR problem.
In credit, be careful. The default cycle is just beginning and will be
UGLY in the HY – HY11 at 60 later this yr, iTraxx XO at 1500+ later this
yr – and EM spectrums. This cycle will play out over the next 18/24 mths
and there are NO PRIZES for being early. And DO NOT get too sucked into
the next ugly bubble – the one that says ‘IG corporate credit is a
no-brainer BUY’. On a PA basis, I see some merit in buying and holding
the best debt of the best companies. But this is very selective and ONLY
on a PA basis. Would I tell my traders to load up on IG secondary cash
risk – even in the best companies? Not a Chance! Ask yourself this – how
would the IG corporate credit market fare if it knew that peak defaults
are not only a year away but that the then default rate will far exceed
anything we have seen for 30+ yrs?? And how would the IG corporate
credit market fare if it knew that well over 50% of such issuers will
see multiple ratings downgrades over the next 24mths??? And then ask
yourself how the IG corporate credit mrkt would fare if you knew that
some major benchmark AAA/AA issuers are seriously at risk of multiple
downgrades?? I see the IG11 index at/above 250 later this yr, with
iTraxx Main at 200+ and iTraxx HiVol at 600.
In the very short term (next month) risk assets should do OK/go
sideways, pretty much as they have since November. The last 3/4 mths did
not feel too bullish for risk assets, but actually it was an OK period
with VOLA falling and some IG spreads in particular better. I think that
after last week’s price action the chances are the next 2/4wks may be OK
too. However this is a low conviction call and one into which I would be
selling risk. The high conviction call remains for significant bear
market in risk assets over Q2, Q3 and into Q4.
NH:
It is difficult for us to comprehend that TIME and FALLING ASSET PRICES
rather than POLICY will solve the current mess – governments can only
mitigate the worst, and here the UK and US seem well ahead of the curve,
if only thru necessity. The sooner we accept this, the sooner the
turnaround can begin. I think that we are no more than a few months from
the mrkt coming to this conclusion, and when it does the resulting asset
sell-off and vola spike will mean that you will be very very happy to be
long Cash, long G7 govvies, and out of EM, Equities, and most of the
credit markets. The time to pick value in risk assets, and the time to
run like USAIN from G7 govvies, is I think later late 09/1st half 2010.
This WILL bottom out and then improve, gradually and eventually – late
09/early 2010 is my best current guess. Until then, Be Safe, Be a
Survivor, and Be Liquid.
NH:
sorry that is so long
NH:
but a very good note
NH:
and interesting line on the GBK
NH:
buy it over the euro
NH:
actually on the currency front
NH:
the yen is taking a bit of whack this morning
NH:
so much so that notes like this are being published
NH:
HEARD ON THE STREET, by David Roman
from The Wall Street Journal.

Call it a lucky break for Japan or proof that markets tend to correct themselves eventually. Either way, the yen has suddenly started to shed its status as a safe haven currency.

NH:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123546901036958041.html?mod=djemheard
PM:
Jeepers — yes — dollar yen has flow to 95.69 currently
PM:
Mighty greenback
NH:
right I have got the S&P trading buy call from JP Morgan
NH:
thanks Grim Reaper
PM:
here it is
PM:
The S&P 500 has struggled to shake the downside pressures in 2009 and has already sunk 16% YTD (12% decline in the past two weeks).
There have been quite a number of concerns confronting equity investors, from a worsening global economy (capacity utilization at near-alltime
low of 72%) to spreading financial crisis (Eastern Europe is the new epicenter), while government policy here creates new angst (bank
nationalization fears plus concerns the new housing plan will not arrest the home price declines).
NH:
(itzman – already up in the LR)
PM:
We have not been among the bottom callers but rather see a range-bound mkt till July 09. Our call since Nov 2008 has been for the
S&P 500 to be range-bound and, within that context, to be defensive by focusing on sectors with relative visibility (hence, Healthcare is
our top OW) and the need to avoid the big loss (most recently, see “Primum Nil Nocere (First, Do No Harm)” dated 2/13/09). At that time,
the range we saw for the S&P 500 was 750-800 on the low end and 1,000-1,100 on the upper end, with the final low for this bear market
occurring ideally around July 2009. While we thought we would initially make a rise to the upper end of the range before sinking to new
lows, we are instead facing new lows currently. That is, the Zig apparently ended at 943 (on 1/6/09) and we are now in the Zag down.
• We are moving to a “Trading Buy” in the S&P 500, setting a SHORT-TERM Target of 800 (up 7.5%) and STOP-LOSS at 725
(down 2.5%). Thus, we call mercy if we break below 725. There are 4 reasons for this trading buy.
• #1, Divergence in credit vs. equities, on quality spread . . . The divergence in credit versus equities has been notable in recent weeks,
with credit muted while equities sold off. What we wanted to highlight is the positive implications of a narrowing quality spread which fell
below 300bp (Figure 5) on 1/29/09 (BAA less AAA yield) after peaking in late-Nov. This was not seen during the 1929-1932 period until
9/32, two months after the bottom. In other words, only since 1/29/09 has it made sense to consider being long equities per spread.
PM:
#2, S&P 500 is oversold by several measures. Daily RSI is now 29, even below the 32 we saw on 11/20. You have to go back to 10/10 to
see it lower (it popped 11% the next day). As shown in Figure 7, the AAII % Bulls less % Bears is now at -35 (Bears in charge), a level not
seen since March 13, 2008, and at that time the S&P 500 began a climb to 1,440 by May.
• #3, Financials have not been selling off in the past few days, while the S&P 500 declines. Consider that KBW Bank Index (BKX) is flat
since middle of last week, while S&P 500 down 5%. If nationalization was behind selling, KBX should be lower.
• #4, Nobody is calling for the selling to stop: a good thing and more likely general public is capitulating now . . . . Unlike last year,
when “bottom” calls were made daily, those calls have become nonexistent. Thus, more proof that capitulation is reflected in stocks.
• The lesson of 1929: Complete wipeout of Bears, Bulls, Contrarians and Value Investors . . . Let us not deceive ourselves. We are still
in a bear market, even if this is the bottoming phase of the bear market. We all know of the historic 89% peak-to-trough decline of the Dow
from September 1929 to the final low in July 1932. What investors do not appreciate is how that decline progressively wiped out value
investors, short sellers, and, of course, the general public. Legends like Durant, Livermore, and others profited from the Crash only to lose
their wealth in the extended bear of 1929 to 1932, surprising many for its duration. Too many called bottoms early. But even being bearish
was dangerous. As shown in Figure 1 below, there were no less than 8 wipeouts (falls in stocks of 25% or more) and 7 bear killers (rises of
15% or more).
PM:
The other lesson of 1929: Most of the pain could have been avoided if equity waited for credit to confirm a bottom . . . . Surprisingly,
there was a very simple indicator that would have kept investors out of harm’s way between 1929 and 1932. As shown in Figure 4 below,
during the entire decline of the Dow from 1929 to 1932, the quality spread was widening, reaching 550bp by July 1932. It did not tighten to
under 300bp until 9/32. The bottom in the Dow was 7/32. This ties into our view that credit will lead equities in this bear market.
PM:
Form Thomas Lee at JPM
PM:
Some interesting charts in there that we will try and get up a bit later
11:20AM
PM:
let’s move to a different subject
NH:
but not banks
PM:
No — how about PCs
PM:
As in personal computers
NH:
good idea
PM:
You mentioned a note earlier from Morgan Stanley
NH:
very interesting and incredibly bearish
NH:
MOST are saying that unit sales of PC’s could fall 11% this year
NH:
now, that would be the biggest decline on record
NH:
and revenues
NH:
well, they could be down by a quarter
PM:
jeepers
PM:
not good news for our friends at Dell
PM:
NH:
er, no. not good at all
NH:
MOST put this note together following a trip to Asia
NH:
and aside from the big slump in sales forecast
NH:
the other interesting thing is Netbooks
NH:
and the impact they are having on the market
NH:
and that’s basically on pricing
NH:
people are swapping their PC’s for cheaper netbooks
NH:
made by the likes of Acer and Pee Cc
NH:
sorry Cee
NH:
and MOST says this is will exacerbating the cyclical
downturn in the global PC market
NH:
MOST is looking for a 10% cannibalization rate from traditional notebooks
NH:
right
NH:
here is the note
NH:
and I would be keen to hear the thoughts of Praxis
NH:
Impact on our views: On the heels of our visit to Asia
last week, we are lowering our global PC unit and ASP
forecasts for ‘09/’10.

NH:
Revisions to our model are
primarily driven by: 1) Weaker than expected demand,
2) Netbook cannibalization and 3) Netbook ASP
pressure. We now expect global PC market revenue to
fall 24% in ’09 driven by an 11% (-14% ex netbooks) unit
decline and a 15% ASP decline. In ’10, we now look for
industry revenue growth to fall another 3% driven by 2%
unit growth (-1% ex netbooks) offset by an ASP decline
of 5%. Structural change in the global PC market (i.e.,
netbook pricing pressure) is creating an environment in
which it will be increasingly difficult for the industry to
grow revenues in the medium term, even after a macro
recovery takes hold (similar to ‘00-‘05 time period).
NH:
What’s new: Netbooks are exacerbating the cyclical
downturn in the global PC market. We model a 10%
netbook cannibalization rate of traditional NBs, but the
pricing element is of much larger consequence. Netbook
ASPs are 50%+ below the PC market average and the
mix will be close to 20% of NBs in ’09, up from only 9%
in ’08, we believe. What’s more, we think netbooks are
pressuring traditional NB prices, placing further pressure
on the market at a time of weak demand and excess
supply. Our forecast revision introduces a netbook
estimate of 22 million units in ’09 and 31 million units
in ’10, up from approximately 10 million units in ’08.
From a broader market demand perspective, our recent
checks point to continued pockets of inventory build and
orders that could decelerate in the month of March (from
Jan/Feb levels).
NH:
I have put the full note up in the LR
NH:
but very interesting and non financial
NH:
11:25AM
PM:
What else this morning?
NH:
General Electric
NH:
stock took another beating overnight
NH:
down for a third straight session
NH:
shares now below $9
NH:
lowest close since March 7, 1995 stat fans
NH:
fallen 74% in the past year
PM:
right — why?
NH:
fears the finance arm, GE Capital, needs more cash
NH:
and that the dividend might go
NH:
this was all sparked by a gloomy note from Deutsche Bank
NH:
their GE watcher Nigel Coe expressed concerns about a $20bn in unrealised losses at GE Capital
NH:
which he believes could grow
NH:
As such the divi might have to go to free up $18bn of capital
NH:
and he also reckons GE Capital could break a covenant with its parent company
PM:
do we have a copy of the note
NH:
Of course
NH:
here it is
NH:
and it will be worth keeping a watch on the performance of GE today
NH:
More cautious view on GE Capital led us to lower our targets
Our lower GE Capital earnings target is consistent with a modest breach of its
fixed charge covenant. This could require further equity injections and these could
be significant if losses accelerate. In light of this uncertainty, we believe it prudent
to value Capital at zero and this led us to lower our PT to $12/share. Reiterate
HOLD.
PM:
hang on a minute
PM:
GE Capital worthless
PM:
zero????
PM:
0 cents???
NH:
er, yes
NH:
We lowered our outlook for GE Capital following the 10K review
Following a review of the 10K filing we have become much more concerned that
the $20+bn of unrealized losses at year-end could both accelerate through 2009
and be recognized. As such, we have further lowered our Capital Finance target to
below $3bn vs. current $5bn guidance and this was the primary driver of our new
2009E of $1.20. However, much more importantly, we now project GE Capital will
modestly break its fixed charge covenant – 1.06x is below 1.1x floor – and might
oblige GE to contribute further equity over and above the $15bn recently injected.
NH:
We now view the dividend as vulnerable to a material cut in 2H09
GE’s reading of the covenant is that such a contribution would equate to the
income deficit – under our calculation this would amount to less than $1bn. But if a
consensus forms that covenant non-compliance is structural rather than cyclical,
then we believe even more aggressive debt reduction targets might be necessary.
As such, we now view the dividend as highly vulnerable to a material cut as early
as 3Q09, and this could free up $18bn of capital through 2010. However a more
rapid deterioration in earnings power could necessitate significant equity injections
far sooner and so we can no longer rule out the need for further external financing.
NH:
We have lowered our target price from $17 to $12
As such, we need to modify our current view that GE Capital is a free option.
While we still believe that GE Capital has tremendous long term earnings
potential, we have considerable uncertainty over how much further capital could
be required to absorb accelerating credit losses and meet covenant conditions.
Until we have more visibility that GE Capital’s terminal value exceeds near-term
capital requirements, we believe it prudent to embed GE Capital at zero in our
base case valuation and this is the primary driver of the downward revision to our
target price from $17 to $12 (we value GE Industrial at 8x LTM EBITDA). Given
balanced risk/reward, we reiterate our HOLD rating. Risks: stronger USD, lack of
wholesale capital market liquidity, deceleration in Infrastructure order flow,
recovery in financial sector multiples.
PM:
hmm
PM:
would be worth getting hold of the 10k filing
NH:
yes it would
NH:
in the meantime
NH:
want some more COE??
PM:
Sure!
NH:
GE’s 10K filings, released last week, open a window into the true challenges management face in keeping GE Capital adequately capitalized during this period of credit contraction and rising consumer and commercial delinquencies.
NH:
Our concern centers on the rapid build-up of unrecognized losses in the GE Capital balance sheet. We indentified the following disclosures in the annual filings related to the major buckets of risk – real estate, investment securities and customer loans.
NH:
In this sense, GE is carrying $436bn of assets in these three categories at $21bn above estimated fair value as highlighted above. Unlike many financial peers, the bulk of GE’s assets are non-trading and therefore not subject to mark-to-market accounting requirements.
NH:
Therefore, GE management has the theoretical luxury of riding out the raging credit storm without liquidating assets for valuations below perceived intrinsic valuations.
However the pace of deterioration is stunning and it is clear, even to a layman, that
conditions are not getting any better. In fact, the 41% decline in the financial sector since
year-end clearly communicates that risk levels in the financial sector have increased.

NH:
A simple extrapolation of the current trend line would suggest that embedded losses could reach $40-50bn this year – we calculated this amount by taking the $21bn as of 31 December and adding in the $26bn fair value vs. book value swing experienced during 2008.
NH:
Once again, it is not absolutely certain to what extent such losses would need to be
recognized but given such a material deficit and the longevity of depressed financial
valuations, the risk of accelerating asset impairment (and credit) losses grows through 2009, in our opinion.
In this sense, we believe it prudent to further lower our GE Capital earnings targets
below management’s $5bn target, which we view as probably unattainable unless there is a significant improvement in underlying credit conditions. Therefore we have lowered our 2009 Capital Finance target from $3.7bn to $2.9bn.
PM: So losses could total $40-50bn at GE

NH:
all a bit worrying
11:32AM
PM:
Right that’s it
PM:
banks
NH:
No we’re not doing banks. We’ve come round to Bored with banks point of view.
PM:
Hang on hang on. The British people are about to be asked to wear £500bn of toxic stuff and you are going to declare it a no-go zone for Alphaville.
PM:
Which, at the end of the day is a finance-focused blog.
NH:
Okay – keep it brief tho Murph. I want to talk some more about oil and coupon clippers.
PM:
Well, its mainly that I want to report that Jonathan Pierce of Credit Suisse has now widened his reading material.
PM:
Having bought the Telegraph at the weekend, Jonathan has now ventured on to the BBC website and zoomed in on a blog called Peston’s Picks.
PM:

Late last night, the BBC published Peston’s latest musings on the Asset Protection Scheme. He confirms recent press reports that the Government is seeking to insure £250bn of assets at each of Lloyds Banking Group and RBS.

But he raises two other important issues. First is the form of the fee. The weekend press raised our concerns in this regard (see yesterday’s email) but Peston goes further with talk of “participating preference shares” and how “if the fee were set high, the Government’s economic interest in these banks – its claims over the banks assets – could approach 100 percent”. Peston continues “in the sense of rights over the banks’ profits and assets, there would be nothing left for Royal Bank’s and Lloyds’ private sector shareholders”.

Despite these rather dramatic statements, there is no further detail. From our perspective, participating preference shares can take any number of forms but are often designed to payout a fixed dividend payment (i.e. coupon) with entitlement to additional dividends in the event ordinary dividends exceed a certain level. Given the potential for such instruments to effectively dilute existing shareholders in these banks, it is absolutely necessary that these statements are clarified as soon as possible. For now, we view this as a negative development, although note Peston’s closing comments that the Treasury and banks are still looking at ways to avoid “economic nationalisation”. Furthermore, the broader press this morning continues to run with stories that the fee might take traditional preference shares or cash.

PM:
Second is the attachment point. According to the BBC, the Treasury wants this set at 10% – which we think is workable – but the banks supposedly want lower. The issue probably surrounds the size of the related first loss deduction – we believe this would be 50% deducted from tier 1, which would equal £12.5bn at both LBG and RBS, and is sizeable in the context of both banks equity tier 1 capital (£30bn and £40bn respectively). But our original work suggested this should be more than offset by the reduction in RWA. For example, assuming a 3% fee spread over 5 years, the average risk weight on the £250bn of ringfenced assets at LBG and RBS would have to be less than 95% and 85% respectively to leave the initial equity tier 1 ratio below our 2008 estimates of 5.8% and 6.8% respectively, on our calculations. This also assumes the first loss piece achieves zero tax relief – if not, the risk weights would have to fall below 70% and 60% respectively, on our estimates.

So, why the debate? On the one hand, it could simply be last minute negotiations to get a better deal for shareholders. More concerning, banks might be looking to put lots of “non-toxic” structured assets into the ringfence, such as AAA RMBS which attract risk weights as low as 7%. Why would they do that? The only reason we can think of relates to the potential for future downgrades increasing the associated risk weighting (e.g. a BB asset gets a weight nearer 450%). This would not be great as while it pre-empts a potential future problem, it might push the starting capital ratio lower – and perhaps suggests that bigger problems lurk in the capital base than is generally accepted by the market.

PM:
All in all, we are again left with more questions than answers. As we have discussed before, we believe the scheme has the ability to dramatically improve bank capital ratios (particularly relative to a stress scenario) without placing too much burden on the taxpayer, but there is just too much uncertainty over the detail to get involved one way or the other yet. We advise investors to wait on the sidelines – although today’s share prices might not be helped by this latest news.

PM:
Actually, be fair to Pierce here.
PM:
He is pointing out that there is no real clue as to dilution here – and that is HUGELY price sensitive.
NH:
So we are back to that point about those doing Treasury briefings bringing the stock market into disrepute.
NH:
Under the Market Abuse regime – and using our powers seized from the FSA back in September or so ….
PM:
I think we can confidently declare a False Market in the UK banking sector – specifically in RBS and LBG.
NH:
While we are on banks, worth pointing out Tracy’s post on what UBS was saying about the US banks.
PM:
Ah yes – some good tables in there – specifically looking at tangible common equity
PM:
Citi gets a non-applicable – N/A.
NH:
11:35AM
NH:
actually on Citi, must say I am bored of the natioanlisation talk as far as the equity is concerned
NH:
it has already been factored in by the market. it is over
NH:
and BoA is almost in the same situation
NH:
much more interesting is the performance of bank bonds
NH:
anyway
11:36AM
PM:
And from UK banks, we can now branch out to Swedish banks
NH:
Not more banks
PM:
£500bn at risk? Not news?
PM:
Citi have done a big reminder on Sweden and what happened in the early 90s.
PM:
Abba Bank primer
PM:
The first point we want to make is that Swedish banking history was not one of mass nationalisation in the 1990s. Many in the Anglophone world tend to assume Sweden is a State-dominated socialist paradise or purgatory (depending on your political view point). In fact, the Swedish Model involved relatively limited State capital injections into the banking system, even though
it did involve a guarantee for all banks’ liabilities and liquidity provision.

Two of the three largest banks in Sweden at the start of the 1990s – SE Banken and Svenska Handelsbanken – were not nationalised. It is true that SE Banken did formally request State capital support in 1993 but in the end it recapitalised without State support. SHB did not ask for, nor did it receive, State capital.

PM:
Of the big three banks, only Nordbanken was nationalised – and they were already 70% State-owned at the start of the 1990s. The other leading bank to be nationalised was Gota Bank, the fourth largest player in the market.

PM:
The second point we wanted to highlight is what happened to bank shareholders during the early 1990s Swedish crisis. Investors in the surviving banks, SE Banken and SHB, saw their shares fall peak to trough in the early 1990s by c95% and c85% respectively. Relative to prior year end book value, SE Banken shares troughed at 0.1x and SHB 0.2x. The banks’ share prices troughed between late 1992 and early 1993. From these trough levels, SHB bounced c900% to its peak in 1994, SEB c1700%. Later in the note we look at what drove the recovery in the shares. In the nationalisation process, Nordbanken’s minority shareholders were bought out by the State at the same price as the previous rights issue. By contrast, when Gota Bank was rescued, the private shareholders received zero. The new Nordbanken (which included Gota Bank) was privatised in 1995 at a valuation of c1x book.

PM:
The final point we look at is how the bank sector, in fundamental terms, performed during and after the crisis years. Firstly, it shrank dramatically – sector loans declined 25% from its 1992 peak to 1995 trough. The sector loan/deposit ratio shrank from a 1990 peak of c140% to a 1996 trough of
c80%. Asset quality deteriorated with loan losses rising from a negligible level, close to zero in 1989, to c4% of average client loans in 1991 and peaking at c6% in 1992-93. Swedish GDP declined during 1991 to 1993, bankruptcies more than doubled and the unemployment rate quintupled. But the economy had recovered by 1994 and the cumulative lost output was c4.5% of GDP, followed by many years of solid growth through the second half of the decade. We discuss these points in greater detail in the rest of the report. In the appendix we also include a brief overview of the developments in neighbouring
markets. While Denmark did relatively better than its Nordic peers, Norway and Finland both had a very severe downturn.

In fact the latter two bank systems underwent a much more extensive bank nationalisation process than Sweden and was arguably less successful.

PM:
And here’e a bit more from the conclusion
PM:
The aggregate loan losses during the worst crisis years amounted to the equivalent of 12 per cent of Sweden’s annual GDP. The stock of nonperforming loans was much larger than the banking sector’s total equity capital and, as discussed in the previous sections, five of the seven largest banks
raised capital from either the State or their owners.

So what was the cost of the banking crisis? In terms of lost output over 1991-93, it was c4.5% of GDP (see Figure 11). However, unemployment quintupled during the 1990s and never returned to previous lows (see Figure 12). The direct cost to the State budget of capital injections was SKr61 billion or 4.2% of GDP, though the net fiscal cost was reduced by asset divestments.

11:38AM
11:38AM
NH:
thanks for that
NH:
a fair bit of chat about BP this morning
NH:
whether it will chop its dividend or not
NH:
the BP divi yield is 8.3% at the moment
PM:
That’s in dollars
NH:
historic in dollar terms according to Reuters
NH:
prospect, again according to Reuters and in dollar terms based on last night’s closing price is, 8.645%
PM:
Reuters consensus estimate
PM:
Incredible for a company of this size
PM:
By historic norms
NH:
it is
NH:
and as you can imagine the coupon clippers have been following this one with interest
PM:
coupon clippers
PM:
NH:
a small army of coupon clippers
NH:
now
NH:
all this was kick-started by a note from BarCap
NH:
which Bryce and I ran on the markets page overnight
NH:
I think Bryce got hold of the note late yesterday
NH:
anyway, the point analyst Tim Whittaker made
NH:
is that payout ratios are rising
NH:
before very long they will be 100% of earnings
NH:
and he makes the point that sustaining payments could be value destructive
NH:
if they are paid for by cutting costs elsewhere
NH:
capex, exploration that sort of thing
NH:
the good news is that balance sheets are strong enough to take the hit for the next couple of years
NH:
after that
NH:
well, it does not look good
NH:
here’s a little snippet from the note
NH:
Risk, or the avoidance thereof, appears to us to have been the main recent driver of equity markets. The large-cap oils have strong balance sheets, hence are low financial risk, and their dividends are considered safe. As a result, they have been
amongst the best share price performers over the last few months, and the European integrated oil sector now trades close to an all-time high relative to the market on a price relative and P/E basis.
NH:
Yet, despite the low risk perception, oil company earnings have high operational leverage to commodity price downside. The oil price is already back to 2004 levels, since when the industry’s cost structure has doubled. If the current crude price prevails, and
that is our assumption for the next two years, 2009 will see the largest ever y/y fall in oil prices and the largest ever fall in company earnings and cash flows. Our forecasts, which are 40-50% lower than the 2009 and 2010 Factset consensus, show
2009 earnings down 45-70% for the integrated group versus 2008.
NH:
This is effectively back to 2002 profit levels, when the crude price was just $25/bl. The consensus market view appears to be that the oil price will quickly recover, but our analysis, based on our incremental supply model, suggests it won’t tighten until 2012.
Average dividend payout ratios will be 75% in 2009 on our forecasts, with BP and Shell both over 100%. With limited flexibility to reduce capital spending, several companies will have cash flows lower than capex. As a result, returns on capital in 2009 are
below the cost of capital on our estimates for most European companies (see chart on page 5). The 4Q reporting season provided plenty of evidence of deteriorating prices and margins across all business lines, and our view is that the industry is now
entering a multi year cyclical downturn – with 2010 potentially an even tougher year than this.

NH:
In valuation terms, the oil sector PE multiple is close to 2x the FTSE Euro 300 index on our forecasts, twice the historical average. In the past, extreme relative valuation ratios have provided profitable investment opportunities; but, for the oil sector,
consensus forecasts have yet to factor-in the earnings downgrades required to get to this starting point. And, until the much lower earnings and cash flows we foresee are priced-in, we expect the large-cap oils to under-perform the wider market. Hence,
we initiate coverage with a 3-Negetive sector view
PM:
thanks for all that
NH:
no probs
NH:
now, Cazenove have also taken a look at the dividend question this morning
PM:
and?
NH:
they have come to a completely different conclusion
NH:
which will please the coupon clippers
NH:
and Caz says it is not time to be selling BP or Shell yet
PM:
Interesting — never sell shell — old rule
NH:
their argument is that the payout is safe, partly because oil is finding a floor at $40 a barrel
NH:
and will recover closer to the global marginal cost of extraction (Caz estimate $80 per barrel) by 2011
PM:
Sounds a tad optimistic to me
NH:
On top of that Caz believes BP and Shell can pay their divis for two years before capex and cost reductions become more of a necessity
PM:
can you paste the note
NH:
of course
NH:
The UK market continues to lose dividend flow as companies cut dividends to conserve cash and thus reduce external financing requirements. We revisit our central integrated oil theme for 2009 – safe dividends.
NH:
We continue to believe that the dividends from the two large oil names – BP and RD Shell – are under-valued by the market. We measure a 2009E dividend yield of 8.5% for BP and 7.4% for RD Shell B which equate to a UK market yield relative of 170 and 148 respectively (given a UK market average yield of 5% – Cazenove estimate).
BP’s yield seems to be retracing its profile ahead of the 1992 dividend cut – BP halved its quarterly dividend in Q2 1992 – from a 1991 total of 8.4 pence, BP’s calendar DPS in 1993 bottomed at 4.2 pence. Following the departure of its CEO (Bob Horton), this action was one of several taken by BP’s next CEO (David Simon) that included asset sales, capex cuts and headcount reductions to reduce leverage and raise corporate efficiency.
NH:
These measures ultimately set the company on a sustained recovery and organic growth path through the balance of the 1990s. We attach a chart (figure 1) that shows how BP’s dividend yield and dividend yield relative to the UK market changed ahead of and after this important event. BP’s yield peaked at 11% and its yield relative peaked at 220 – these variables then collapsed, settling at around 3% and 80 relative to the UK market.
NH:
Fast forward to today and we measure an absolute dividend yield of 8.5% and yield relative of 170 – on their way back to the levels last seen ahead of the 1992 dividend cut. Please note that these are higher than those in figure 2 which shows four quarter trailing dividend data. Our estimates assume four quarterly dividends in 2009 at 14.00 cents per share (the level set by BP in Q2 2008), converted at spot $/£ of 1.46. We note that the $/£ would have to depreciate 69% to 2.46 to reduce BP’s £ dividend yield to parity with the UK market (5%) – how likely is that in isolation ? Note that dollar depreciation is typically correlated to oil price appreciation that ought to underpin dividend security.
NH:
BP’s yield premium to Royal Dutch Shell is not a natural equilibrium – Based on four quarterly dividends of 42 cents per share (the level pre-announced by RD Shell with respect to Q1 2009), converted at spot $/£ 1.46, RD Shell is yielding 7.4%. This is 110 basis points lower than BP’s 2009E yield of 8.5%. In our view, RD Shell’s dividend is thus somewhat more reasonably valued than BP’s dividend, but we still feel both are under-valued by the market. Figure 3 of the attachment shows the yield differential (BP less RD Shell) since 1990.
NH:
This shows that the market correctly anticipated BP’s dividend reduction in 1992 – demanding an ever increasing yield premium from BP until the cut was finally implemented. What is interesting, we believe, is that BP’s yield relationship to RD Shell seems to be retracing its profile from the early 1990s…that ended in a dividend cut. Secondly, BP’s natural equilibrium yield is lower than RD Shell’s – note that BP’s dividend yield was lower than RD Shell’s for almost the entire 14 year period from the beginning of 1993 to the end of 2006. Some investors argue that BP’s 2009 payout ratio (CazE 76%) is higher than RD Shell’s (CazE 63%) and therefore a yield premium is now warranted.
NH:
We remind investors that the long term (1997-2010E) average earnings and cash flow payout ratios of BP and RD Shell are essentially identical (please see our e-mail 10 December 2008 ‘Oil Majors – dividends are not super-cycle dependent’). In this context, adjusting the required yield by one year’s payout ratio seems unwise, in our view. We do not believe that a structural change to the dividend risk profiles of BP and RD Shell has occcured to merit the change to the yield differential between the two names. We therefore retain our IN-LINE recommendation on RD Shell [RDSA NA €18.4 RDSB LN 1558p], Sector OVERWEIGHT. YTD 2009 total returns from BP are -12% versus -8% from RD Shell B shares.

NH:
In our view, reducing the perceived risk attached to BP’s dividend is the key to unlocking share price upside in the current market environment. The key challenge for BP’s management is to convince the market that the 2009 dividend (CazE 56 cents) is bankable. This is something which we hope management will successfully address head on and in a very forthright manner at its forthcoming strategy update (Tuesday, 3 March – London). We really look for cash flow conservation and dividends to be core themes of BP’s next update – other themes may prove to be sideshows to this anxious and yield focussed market. Comments from management on the dividend have yet to reduce the market’s anxiety.
NH:
We continue to believe that BP’s dividend is safe – partly because we believe that the oil price (like other commodities) is now finding a floor around $40 per barrel and will recover closer to the global marginal cost of extraction (Caz estimate $80 per barrel) by 2011. We also believe that BP can borrow to pay its dividend, as can RD Shell, for two years before capex and cost reductions become more of a necessity. So, in advance of this corporate event and with BP shares retracing recent lows and yielding 8.5%, we reiterate our OUTPERFORM stance [BP/ LN 454p], Sector OVERWEIGHT. In our view, genuinely safe dividends are increasingly precious and the dividends from both BP and RD Shell are bearing too much cyclical risk.
PM:
Plenty of advice in there for people keeping an eye on the likely payout
PM:
so ta
PM:
Some share prices
BP (BP:LSE): Last: 454.25, up 0.75 (+0.17%), High: 455.25, Low: 448.75, Volume: 12.59m
Royal Dutch Shell (RDSA:LSE): Last: 1,602, down 8 (-0.50%), High: 1,615, Low: 1,587, Volume: 943.55k
Royal Dutch Shell (RDSB:LSE): Last: 1,564, up 6 (+0.39%), High: 1,573, Low: 1,550, Volume: 2.00m
NH:
oh
NH:
before we finish on the oils
11:46AM
PM:
go on
NH:
bid rumours around in Tullow Oil again
Tullow Oil (TLW:LSE): Last: 701.50, up 15.5 (+2.26%), High: 702.00, Low: 676.00, Volume: 1.03m
NH:
one of the majors looking apparently
NH:
some good overseas buying it would seem
NH:
and also talk that Heritage Oil could also be snapped up
NH:
they are Tullow’s partner in Uganda
Heritage Oil (HOIL:LSE): Last: 248.00, up 8 (+3.33%), High: 248.75, Low: 234.75, Volume: 210.66k
NH:
Tullow is benefiting from a MOST note
NH:
they are pushing the stock and Dana
NH:
but have downgraded Cairn
PM:
Bandit rating for Tullow is just /
PM:
Ages since we’ve had bandit ratings
NH:
yeah, that’s coz most of the them have blown up
NH:
got crunched
PM:
Some have — not the top ones tho
NH:
(BAZ – all in the LR. Just part of the AV service)
NH:
but even they are quiet, no?
NH:
and wary of wading into this market
PM:
Sure
NH:
anyway, back to this MOST note
NH:
which points out the strong relative performance of the E&P sector since November
NH:
and says that against a difficult macro background
NH:
it might be time to start bookinig a few profits
NH:
and instead investors should be looking to buy into companies that have drilling news in the pipeline
NH:
if you will forgive the pun
NH:
here’s the executive summary
NH:
Cautious near-term outlook on E&Ps. Given the c.
20% outperformance versus the sector since November,
less compelling valuation and a house view that we see
further weakness in oil markets, we believe investors
should take a more cautious outlook on the group. With
the lack of macro support, we advise investors to reduce
weightings in the sector and focus on names with stock
specific catalysts. Tullow and Dana offer the best
exposure to near-term news flow, in our view.
NH:
Tullow our top pick; Upgrading Dana to Overweight.
Tullow: currently drilling the Tweneboa well in Ghana
with a result expected before the FY08 results on 11th
March. This will be followed by the Teak exploration well
in April/May. We currently assume 102p/share risked in
our NAV of 1190p for these two wells, but they could be
worth up to 355p/share unrisked (assuming $85/bbl
long-term). Dana: we expect newsflow from Dana within
the next two weeks (earlier than expected) on two wells
in the UK North Sea (Rinnes SE and SW), which are
targeting additional volumes on the Rinnes structure that
was discovered in 2008. These wells could add
72p/share to our NAV of 1591p/share (assuming $85/bbl
long-term). Dana offers a consistent drilling program of
17 wells during 2009, which could add up to 886p to our
base case NAV of 1591p (at $85/bbl LT).
NH:
Downgrading Cairn to EW following strong relative
outperformance. We have increased confidence in the
resource base in Rajasthan and the company delivering
first oil in 3Q09 following the analyst trip to Rajasthan.
However, we see limited short-term catalysts to see
Cairn outperform the sector. While we might get more
clarity on the timing of first oil at the FY08 results on 31
March, it is unlikely that the market will receive new
material information on the development following the
recent site visit, in our view. Short-term newsflow will
also be dominated by the pricing of the Rajasthan crude,
which could be a short-term headwind for the shares.
PM:
lets just add some share prices
Tullow Oil (TLW:LSE): Last: 700.00, up 14 (+2.04%), High: 702.50, Low: 676.00, Volume: 1.05m
Dana Petroleum (DNX:LSE): Last: 959.00, up 25 (+2.68%), High: 982.50, Low: 937.00, Volume: 419.36k
Heritage Oil (HOIL:LSE): Last: 248.00, up 8 (+3.33%), High: 248.75, Low: 234.75, Volume: 210.66k
Cairn Energy (CNE:LSE): Last: 1,855, down 42 (-2.21%), High: 1,905, Low: 1,832, Volume: 491.28k
11:52AM
PM:
Okay – away from the markets for a mo – branch out into UK politics.
PM:
Wanted to share something that Monkey spotted and posted in the Long Room.
PM:
Here’s Monkey’s post
PM:
But for non-LR members, here’s the detail.
NH:
This is from Gordon Brown – signed by him on a government website called realhelpnow.gov.uk
PM:
Many people are asking how we found ourselves in this economic crisis, how we are going to get out of it and what the future is going to hold. I want to explain to people how this crisis, which started in America, has developed – and reassure people that Britain can come out of this stronger and fairer than before.
PM:
Here’s how we got in this mess, apparently…
PM:
From the PM
PM:
There are lots of complicated terms flying about – quantitative easing and fiscal stimulus and deleveraging – there are plenty of words people are getting used to hearing on the TV, but which don’t actually illuminate what’s happened at all.
Perhaps the simplest way to explain it is by talking about electricity. Just like everything gets difficult for you in your house when the electricity stops flowing, everything gets difficult in the economy when the banking system stops working.
So it was really important to save banks, because that underpins everything, just like electricity does in your house. But once the credit crunch and the banking collapse had done such damage to the system, it wasn’t enough for us to flip the trip switch and hope the electricity would start flowing again.
That’s why we’ve brought forward our plans to inject more money into the economy through cutting taxes and increasing public expenditure – we’re sending more voltage around the electricity supply to keep the house in good order.
PM:
As you read thru the whole piece, you’ll note things like this
PM:
I’ve been saying for the last ten years that we need better regulation and global coordination – after forming the unified regulator for Britain, the FSA, we arranged the Financial Stability Forum for the world – but we all know that processes which involve lots of countries and organisations signing up take a lot of time, and it’s only really when things reach a crisis point that people are ready to take bold action together.
Britain’s ideas for how we rebuild the financial system so it works in the interests of ordinary people and not financiers are getting a global hearing and other countries are following our lead.
NH:
he has re-written history.
PM:
PM:
That’s from Airbrush Gordon.
PM:
Most people would describe me as a lefty, but sometimes….
PM:
Apols — was markey rather than Monkey — author o fthe LR post
11:55AM
PM:
Anything to finish up on — or shall post that Bernstein note on the banks?
NH:
oh go on then
PM:
nah
NH:
right a few bits and bobs to finish up on
NH:
Square Ennix, the Japanese bidder for Eidos
NH:
has been in the market buying stock
NH:
11% at 32p
NH:
also
NH:
Invensys
NH:
under pressure this morning
Invensys (ISYS:LSE): Last: 148.30, down 5.1 (-3.32%), High: 149.50, Low: 138.60, Volume: 2.02m
NH:
that’s on the back of MOST downgrade
NH:
now Invensys is a specialist in controls and automation
NH:
one of its biggest ops
NH:
is providing the controls for central heating systems
NH:
and in washing machines and other household goods
NH:
but surprisingly that is not the business worrying MOST
NH:
they are most concerned about the big capex cuts in the oil and gas sector
NH:
and the impact this will have on Invensys’ process systems and controls business
NH:
We assume coverage of Invensys at Underweight with 18% implied downside to our 135p price target and with our FY10e EPS of 11.1p 37% below consensus, a difference that is largely due to our view on Process Systems and Controls. We believe earnings risk for FY10 is likely to dominate the debate on Invensys as our proprietary checks suggest significant cuts to capex for the oil and gas sector, the core end market for Process Systems.
NH:
While the Rail Signalling business looks relatively defensive, we doubt it can offset the weakness in the rest of the group’s portfolio. On CY10e earnings, the stock trades on 13.8x P/E vs. the sector on 12.0x.
11:58AM
PM:
Okay — waht else?
NH:
Tui Travel
NH:
the parent company of First Choice and Tourism Division of TUI
NH:
now its performance has been puzzling me for a while
NH:
share price has been very resilient
NH:
the bulls tell me this is because capacity is being taken out of the industry following recent consolidation
NH:
there have been a flurry of deals in the past couple of years
NH:
the oil price is also helping their airlines
NH:
and there is the possibility of a bid from Tui
NH:
that’s the parent company
NH:
once it sells its shipping business
NH:
unfortunately
NH:
that is looking much less likely now
NH:
as per our story this morning
NH:
and I have to wonder how many people are going to be taking expensive holidays this year
NH:
and even if they can afford a holiday
NH:
here’s a quick note
NH:
TUI AG disposal looking increasingly shaky
NH:
TUI AG’s sale of its Hapag-Lloyd container shipping business is looking increasingly shaky. In recent weeks there has been press speculation that the major banks funding the bidding consortium are struggling to raise finance. Today’s FT suggests Klaus-Michael Kuhne (key member of the bidding consortium) may now also be wavering. The outcome is unclear; at the extreme there is clearly a risk the entire sale may fall apart. Alternatively, terms may have to be revisited with a smaller stake sold at a lower value. Either way, it is looking increasingly more likely that the 66.6% disposal valuing the entire business at €4.45bn may not happen. This makes it increasingly unlikely that TUI AG will seek to buy-out the 49% of TUI Travel that it doesn’t own. The potential buyout of the freefloat, we believe, has been a major factor underpinning TUI Travel shares over the last six months (with Thomas Cook benefiting in the wake).
NH:
Fundamentals – Q1 IMS highlight risks ahead
Both TUI Travel and Thomas Cook have reported Q1 updates within the last 4 weeks (summaries attached). Capacity cuts have resulted in less inventory to sell. Average selling prices are consequently up and are slightly ahead of cost inflation. Add to this the merger synergy benefits and in both cases management feel confident enough to reiterate their full year guidance. Management point to surveys indicating consumers will still take their summer holiday – All inclusive is this year’s hot-seller. However, we see increasing headwinds as the economic environment deteriorates further, unemployment continues rising and for UK-outbound tourists, they start to feel the impact of adverse currency swings. In both cases it was noted that customers are delaying their bookings (potentially pushing more demand into the ‘lates’ market). On top of this, whilst only just on sale, the Continental European markets were generally looking very weak. There was also a worrying deterioration in specialist and activity segments.
NH:
Sector outperformance at risk – SELL
The tour operators have outperformed over the last quarter, driven in part, we believe, by the prospect of a TUI Travel take-out. With this prospect starting to recede, attention is likely to focus back on the fundamentals, which despite excellent management actions to offset the economic downcycle, are likely to come under increasing strain. Our price targets are based on adjusted Quest™ and our sum-of-the-parts, with a sector average discount applied. SELL TUI Travel (PT: 171p), SELL Thomas Cook (PT: 190p).
NH:
now I think that is a pretty good note
NH:
and TUI are down
NH:
TUILKSE
TUI Travel (TT:LSE): Last: 224.75, down 3.25 (-1.43%), High: 226.75, Low: 220.00, Volume: 2.23m
NH:
right a few bits of RAW
RAW is market chatter – information that has not been formally tested through traditional journalistic channels (PRs etc). The story might be complete rubbish, but if we believe there is some substance to it we will say so. Either way, Reader Beware.
NH:
Eurotrash RAW though
NH:
yoy have been warned
NH:
QCE GY merger talks with REC NO
NH:
Nobel Biotech
NH:
According to Cash Daily NOBN could announce having a
new large shareholder in the next few days. Reports of a takeover were triggered yesterday following the announcement that UBS reduced its 9.2% holding to 5.47%
NH:
also picking up some RAW jobs news
NH:
apparently big cuts coming on the sales side SG london
NH:
equities I think
NH:
and also talk of cuts coming at Cantors
NH:
The Mail-on-Sunday reports that Cantor Fitzgerald may be about to axe hundreds of jobs, mainly in London and New York. According to the newspaper, up to 120 positions are likely to go in London.

NH:
apparently there could be something in that
NH:
and finally
NH:
poor JJB Sports
JJB Sports (JJB:LSE): Last: 8.50, down 1.12 (-11.64%), High: 9.75, Low: 8.50, Volume: 263.36k
NH:
rumours that a buyer has dropped out of the auction for the gyms business
PM:
cheers for all that
12:04PM
PM:
We’ve got to run — but here’s some reasonably upbeat stuff to end on
PM:
a speech from Andrew Sentance from the MPC.
PM:
Ive only had a very brief flick through, but it struck me as decidedly glass-half-full.
PM:
Quick random illustration
PM:
The manufacturing firms I have visited over my period of two and a half years on the
MPC should be well placed to benefit from a more competitive level of the pound.
The modern face of British manufacturing is based on investment in high-tech capital
equipment, innovation and skills and benefits from a much more flexible labour
market than we had in the 1970s and 1980s. Until recently, the main concern about
the ability of these firms to expand and deliver a bigger contribution to the UK
economy was lack of capacity. But that is not the issue now, with 70% of
manufacturing firms working below capacity according to the January 2009 CBI
Industrial Trends Survey. Over a period of time, a competitive pound puts British
manufacturing in a much better position to win new markets at home and abroad -
mitigating the negative impact of the recent sharp downturn in global demand.
PM:
The theme of my talk today has been the challenges for monetary policy posed by the
current recession. I have argued that while the downturn is being driven by a
financial crisis of a type we have not seen in post-war economic history, our
experience of the current recession in the UK is not – so far – out of kilter with earlier
post-war recessions. The pattern of a quick move from healthy growth to outright
recession is similar to the experience of the mid-1970s and early-1980s, and the
severity of the downturn in output so far also calibrates reasonably well with these
earlier episodes.

Policy-makers in the UK and around the world are deploying the tools we have
available to counter the negative impact of the global financial crisis and the big
shocks to confidence last autumn. That includes a very significant relaxation of
monetary policy, which we have been able to use more aggressively than in past
recessions because of the absence of underlying inflationary pressures. Measures have also been taken by governments around the world to recapitalise and stabilise the
banking system and relax fiscal policy.

So while the short-term prospect is not good and we will see further falls in output
and rises in unemployment, I believe there are good grounds for expecting a recovery
both here in the UK and in the global economy more broadly as we move through this
year and into 2010.

PM:
Oh and here’s his final conclusion
PM:
If there is a general lesson for monetary policy-makers from this financial crisis and
the resulting recession it is a sense of humility. Like the bankers, we are not the
Masters of the Universe either. But neither are we powerless to influence the course
of economic events. Monetary policy can still make a substantial contribution to
economic stability in the UK and elsewhere. In the short-term, that means supporting
the UK economy with monetary easing in this difficult recession. And in the longterm
it means keeping the focus of monetary policy on price stability – which makes a
vital contribution to broader economic stability. That was an important lesson we
learned in the wake of the previous three UK recessions and we must not forget it in
this one.

PM:
Central bankers not masters of the universe, shock
12:06PM
NH:
FTSE update – down 44 points at 3,803. 3,780 is the November low.
PM:
Failed to dent things today
NH:
that’s a level to look out for
NH:
will it breach the level Mystic Murp???
PM:
Very difficult call that one Neil
NH:
will the Dow go below 7,000?
NH:
can u gaze into the ball
NH:
or turn the cards
NH:
or what ever it is you do
PM:
I’m going to say “yes” — Dow below 7k, Footsie break the Nov low
PM:
But what do I know
NH:
well in that case it is time for
NH:
NH:
third notch I think
NH:
and wow look at L&G
NH:
getting hammered again
NH:
dead cat lasted a day
Legal and General Group (LGEN:LSE): Last: 33.90, down 2.7 (-7.38%), High: 36.50, Low: 33.30, Volume: 12.90m
NH:
there are five notches on the Tin Hat
PM:
Right — on that note — we are off
NH:
and we can always make another
NH:
but to be honest that would be very tight
NH:
and we do actually have a Tin Hat here on the AV desk
NH:
a kind reader – yes there are a few – sent it
NH:
looks like it could be of WWI vintage
PM:
Come on Neil — ive got to go
NH:
don’t do it TX
PM:
Thanks for ALL the comments today
PM:
back tomorrow at 11am, probably
NH:
Pakora has been zapped. no warning for anti Arsenal comment
PM:
hey — i cant do anything abotu that
PM:
About Neil wielding the zapper that is
NH:
Daddy has gone as well – straight red. two footed tackle
PM:
Seeya!
NH:
bye
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