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Lloyds has sufficient capital. If our estimates for the next two years prove close to the actual
outcome, there is significant risk that this will not prove to be the case. Increasingly we feel the
turning point for Lloyds rests on further intervention from the government, hopefully in the form of
a loan guarantee framework which may in turn be a precursor to forming a ‘bad bank’.
innovative tier 1 securities. The terms of the exchange are not finalised. We expect that Lloyds
will have to offer a yield pick up and a premium to the market value to compensate the investor
for greater subordination in the capital structure. While the level of demand is uncertain we
expect a healthy takeup partly following the successful buyback of tier 2 debt by Standard
Chartered last month and also on our expectation that Lloyds will have received encouragement
from note holders prior to launching the offer.
The average price of the tier 2 securities is around 6570% of par. We assume that Lloyds
exchanges the securities at an average price of 75% and that it restricts the offer size to £2.5bn
of new innovative tier 1 securities. Therefore in our model £3.3bn or 40% of the tier 2 securities
are redeemed.
Using the 14% coupon on the restricted capital instruments recently issued by Barclays as the
benchmark, the exchange reduces earnings by c. £100m posttax or a reduction in EPS of 0.6p
per share. Given the greater need for tier 1 capital, we regard the impact on earnings as
immaterial.
On our assumptions purchasing £3.3bn of tier 2 notes at a 25% discount generates a pre tax gain
of £0.8bn. Post tax, £0.6bn, adds 11bp to equity tier 1. We understand that there is no need to
amortise the gain and that for both accounting and regulatory purposes, the gain is recognised in
the first year.
Lloyds will announce the pricing of the new innovative securities at 3pm on Tuesday 13 January
and the result of the offer on 19 January.
Ahead of the exchange, we estimate a pro forma equity tier 1 of 5.8% and tier 1 of 8.8%.
Technically neither the open offers, the acquisition nor tier 2 exchange will complete until the third
week of January. We expect, at the time of the preliminary results announcement, Lloyds will
provide guidance on the capital position as at the start of 2009 on a pro forma basis.
In December Lloyds exchanged some existing innovative tier 1 notes for preference shares. The
$1.25bn (£0.82bn) and €0.5bn (£0.45bn) 7.875% perpetual capital securities issued in May were
exchanged for 7.875% preference shares. This created headroom for additional innovative tier 1
capital as on our original estimates the enlarged group was at the limit. The FSA limits innovative
capital to a maximum of 15% of total tier 1.
has £1.7bn of headroom for new innovative tier 1 notes.
We expect Lloyds will want to have some excess innovative tier 1 notes. Hence we assume
Lloyds issues £2.5bn of innovative tier 1 securities, of which £1.7bn qualify within tier 1 and
£0.8bn is allotted to tier 2.
2010E and retained losses are exacerbated by a cumulative £1.2bn of integration costs (post
tax). Though the main consequence is that equity tier 1 falls uncomfortably close to 4% over the
two years, there are additional effects on total tier 1.
The reduction in equity reduces the amount of innovative capital that is eligible for tier 1. By
December 2010E we estimate that innovative notes within tier 1 will decline by £0.7bn or
11bp.
The debt element within tier 1 rises from 36% to 38% as total tier 1 falls from 9.3% to 7.0%.
To count towards tier 1 capital, instruments must have loss absorbency qualities equivalent to equity. Depending on their design and the arrangements surrounding their issue, instruments that are in legal form debt can nevertheless be accepted by the FSA as counting towards tier 1 capital. These instruments are referred to as ‘innovative’ tier 1 capital.
The FSA sets a limit (15%) on how much of a bank or insurance company’s tier 1 capital can be ‘innovative’. For tax purposes, the legal form of innovative tier 1 capital is followed: the instruments are treated as loan relationships and any coupons payable are allowed as deductions in computing taxable profits.
The Lloyds TSB/HBOS transaction, first announced on 18 September, has been overwhelmingly approved by Lloyds TSB and HBOS shareholders and should receive the requisite Court approval on 12 January. Much has been said and written about the political justification for the removal of consumer protection to railroad this transaction through, but it is now widely accepted that it is potentially bad news for consumers (less competition), which should ultimately mean good news for shareholders.
At first sight, the combination of Lloyds TSB and HBOS looks like a recipe for disaster – 95% of earnings will come from the UK, with an unenviable No.1 market share in all the things that investors are currently most afraid of: mortgages, unsecured loans, credit cards and commercial property.
We use the value creation approach to derive a target price of 210p per share (cut from 215p), for Lloyds TSB which offers 69% upside, compared with a 39% weighted average for our pan-European universe – we upgrade to Outperform. Our HBOS target at 127p (cut from 130p) is set at 0.605x our Lloyds target, offering 75% upside.
Cost synergies of GBP1.8bn p.a by 2011 (our estimate) offer a rare assurance in a very uncertain world. The early 1990s is our central scenario, albeit with very low interest rates constraining bad debts to 2.3x normal. If we apply full early 1990s loss severity (2.7x normal), to our value creation model, we derive a Lloyds TSB target price of 186p, still offering 50% upside. So counter-intuitively, Lloyds Banking Group
(which starts trading as a new entity on 19 January) is a defensive play!
The reason why bad debts may not peak at such a high multiple of ‘normal’ as in the early 1990s, is that interest rates are rather lower today (and still falling) compared to the levels endured then. Lower interest rates mean that, for those of us who are luckyenough to keep our jobs, affordability will be good, while in the early 1990s, even those who remained in gainful employment struggled to meet the interest burden. The following chart illustrates that, heading into the early 1990s recession, consumers and corporates alike faced a rising interest rate environment in 1998, and then elevated interest rates that remained at or above 10% from July 1988 all the way through to May 1992. Interest rates then fell rapidly – to 6% by January 1993.
In our core scenario, while we do expect unempoyment to reach similar levels to the early 1990s, in large part driven by sharply weakening consumer spending, given the low interest rate environment, we expect that affordability and debt service capability will remain comfortable for a wide section of the UK population. Therefore in our core scenario, we model the impairment charge for Lloyds Banking Group rising to 2-2.5x ‘normal’.
186p, offering 50% upside. Clearly this is a negative case not a worst case scenario.
On this basis, we would conclude that Lloyds Banking Group is quite well positioned to withstand a deep recession, hence our Outperform recommendation.
The UK short selling ban ends on 16-Jan-09, though increased disclosure requirements are set to remain until at least 30-Jun-09. During the period of the ban, instituted in the aftermath of the Lehman event, UK bank stock prices have fallen materially (56-77%) as has stock liquidity. Part of this is due to the dilutive recapitalisations (announced 13-Oct-08) though it is not clear that the ban had any beneficial effects, in our view. The FSA has retained the right to re-impose the ban without consultation.
StanChart and HSBC have dividend floors
As the ban comes off, we hope to see improved liquidity but also feel that previous outperformers may come under shorting pressure. In the near term, we are approaching UK bank ex-dividend dates only an issue for HSBC and StanChart. Shorting across a dividend date is expensive: these two will both show 3-3.5% final dividend yields, going ex-dividend in March.
We feel the two-week reporting season is only likely to highlight the weakness in the UK economy as well as show further material credit losses across bank balance sheets. Whilst we feel that the major credit contraction event is bottoming (LIBOR spreads should be watched closely after
yesterday s BoE rate cut), the UK is obviously mired in a recession with falling asset values, rising bankruptcies and rapid NPL formation. This will remain the theme of 2009, in our view as UK bank earnings recovery is put off until well into 2010, we estimate.
We retain our cautious stance on the sector.
Key risk is further recapitalisations being needed
UK banks should show materially stronger equity Tier 1 ratios by end-09 than they did in 2007, we estimate. However, this is massively contingent on the extent of further write-downs reported for 2H08 (or even 1H09). We believe accurately measuring these write-downs from inside the banks to bea very difficult task and these numbers are broadly unknowable from outside. The new CEO of RBS, Stephen Hester, has a track record of large, upfront provisions in restructuring situations (Abbey in 2002-3) and this could well be repeated here, irrespective of the massive differences between RBS and Abbey.
Pressure on HSBC to raise capital persists
We feel recent stock price falls are due to pressure on the bank to raise capital. Whilst we believe its capital levels are adequate by normal analysis, these are clearly abnormal times and other banks have been rewarded for raising capital from positions of relative strength (SAN and StanChart). We are therefore more cautious on HSBC in the near term.
simultaneously repair balance sheets, improve liquidity ratios, absorb mounting
credit losses, pass on rate cuts to borrowers (but not savers), boost domestic
lending and replace credit withdrawn by overseas banks and non-bank financial
lenders. We believe the government understands this and will resist calls for full
nationalisation in favour of an approach that aims to rehabilitate the industry
without unnecessarily increasing the level of public ownership.
pressure to boost domestic lending is understandable, it is unrealistic for the
industry to replace the lending withdrawn by foreign banks and non-bank
financials, which in the last 10 years have taken a 53% share of flow in corporate
loans, 45% in mortgages and currently account for 51% of debt outstanding
supply of loans remains a priority, the uncomfortable truth is that private sector
debt at 212% of GDP (exc. Financials) is too high already. Even if falling interest
rates were passed on in full, corporate debt may still need to fall c10% over the
next two years to reduce the debt service burden to sustainable levels, while
mortgage demand is likely to remain depressed until house prices have stabilised.
interest rates could potentially knock a third off sector profits if not fully passed on
to savers. Even spreading the impact over a number of years, this would lead to
weaker capital generation and increase the risk of further capital injections.
stress-testing approach to consider the impact on pre-provision profits as well as
impairment, which has reduced our stressed tNAV per share estimates by c20% on
average. Acknowledging that bank capital exists to absorb ‘unexpected loss’, we
view a minimum post stress-test Equity Tier 1 ratio of 4.5% as acceptable.
‘High’ to recognise potential political risk but retain a Buy rating and 100p price
target. We retain a Hold (2M) rating and 200p price target on Barclays but remove
it from our European ‘Stocks to Avoid’ list to reflect its greater flexibility having
avoided government ownership. We continue to rate HSBC Buy (1M) with an 800p
price target and Standard Chartered Sell (3M) with a 650p price target. We set
price targets at a level between our estimated stress-test tNAV per share and a
‘base case’ valuation based on the individual risks faced by each bank.
today was in December 1974, when they declined by -602k. In the post-WWII period,
there have only been two occasions with larger declines: July 1956 (-629k) and
October 1949 (-834k).
indicators turned even more negative last month. Of the four indicators which
improved—the employment components of the non-mfg ISM, Chicago PMI and NY
Empire surveys, as well as the Monster employment index— it should be noted the
improvements were quite modest and generally pointed to merely a (slightly) slower
rate of decline. Yesterday we learned that initial jobless claims fell 24k to 467k
following a decline of 98k in the prior week. The net effect of the past two weeks is
that the 4-week moving average slipped 27k to 526k, the same level as at the end of
November.
probably a false signal generated by the atypical pattern in hiring over the holiday
period. As we have noted on several occasions, there is ordinarily a large amount of
temporary holiday staffing put into place in the final months of the year; although in
the current dire economic environment, much of that seasonal hiring likely did not take place.
As a result, the lower volume of seasonal post-holiday layoffs is likely to be
smaller, as well—thereby distorting the claims tally. We are inclined to believe the
improvement in initial claims is not accurate, because most other labor indicators we
follow continue to deteriorate, including continuing claims. At 3.4%, the insured rate
of unemployment is consistent with our estimate of a 7% national unemployment
rate. We are bracing for net payroll losses of roughly 600k in December.
We are downgrading our recommendation on Anglo American from BUY to
UNDERPERFORM with a price objective of 1300p/sh (R185/sh). Earnings for
Anglo are under significant pressure, in our view, especially at current spot
commodity prices. After reviewing our volume and cost assumptions we cut
FY08e EPS by 19% (from $5.70/sh to $4.65) and FY09e EPS by 60% (from
$3.89/sh to $1.60). At the results on 20th Feb we do not rule out a dividend cut.
We expect Anglo to underperform the sector near term.
We are effectively forecasting Anglo will be FCF break-even in 2009 under our
base case and -$0.5bn under spot prices. In order to finance a $1.24/sh dividend
($1.5bn) Anglo would have to utilise available credit lines (estimated at $5.5bn of
which $3bn is repayable in Dec 2009). Anglo debt is under negative watch (a
downgrade to BBB+ seems likely) meaning if further finance was required (i.e. if
commodity prices were to fall materially further) Anglo could potentially have to
issue equity, but at this stage that risk seems low.
Under our new base case earnings Anglo is trading on 15x FY09E earnings and
18x FY10E. At spot commodity prices earnings would drop to $1.05/sh and
applying a 20x trough multiple would support a share price of 1300p/sh. This
represents a 28% discount to our new 2010E NPV of 1815p. The positive risk for
shares is Asset Optimisation – we expect an EBIT improvement target to be
announced with FY08 results which in time could add >$1bn to mid-cycle EBIT.
We downgrade Xstrata to Neutral. Xstrata’s shares have rallied 50% off their
debt-fear driven lows and as we enter earnings season, we believe that Xstrata’s
geared balance sheet means that potential negative earnings surprises across the
sector, negative macro newsflow and negative outlook statements from peers
could weigh on shares. We lower our price objective to GBp1000, a 30%
discount to our NPV, justified in our opinion by the ongoing macro headwinds.
We downgrade 2008E EPS by 21% to US$4.07/sh to reflect a very negative
provisional pricing adjustment in copper, lower assumed coking coal sales from
Oaky Creek as previously announced and lower assumed chrome production as
the stainless steel destock continues. 2009E EPS -12% to US$2.65/sh.
While shares do not look expensive on about 5x our base case earnings, Xstrata
is one of the more geared plays in our sector and we see 36% downside to
earnings based on our “spot” earnings scenario analysis so this multiple would
increase to 8x, still reasonable in our opinion for what could be trough earnings.
Crucially, we believe XTA would still be FCF positive at spot metal prices. At spot
we estimate limited profit from base metals; earnings will come largely from coal,
helped by carry-over tonnages at last year’s high prices.
We do note that in a recent meeting with analysts, Xstrata CEO Mick Davis
indicated that management is comfortable with debt covenants of 3x EBITDA, 4x
interest cover tested on a lagging, rolling 12 month basis. Because of coal carry
over tonnes priced at high levels, the earliest that covenants could realistically be
triggered would be end-2009, depending on 2009 outcome. XTA is considering its
options on cash preservation including reducing capex and cutting costs.
Scenario 2. The world is saved
Scenario 3. An extinction-level event, where the world economy takes a turn for the worst, with a dramatic drop in GDP and employment and the downturn lasts longer than expected and possibly for several years.
Pearson’s share price performance has been one of the strongest in our coverage over the last year, outperforming the sector average by 35%. In our view much of this is due to sterling weakness but the remainder is due to its perceived defensiveness. This has now left it as one of the most expensive stocks within our coverage, on our estimates it is trading at a 30% premium to the sector and to the other professional publishing stocks, leaving it very vulnerable to the full extent of the weakness in the
US school book market and the forecast downturn at the FT and consumer books. We downgrade the shares from Neutral to Sell.
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interim results. Investors, nonetheless, have been concerned about the possible impact of the economic cycle on the stock; we believe that these fears are probably exaggerated, especially regarding the Education business. We rate Pearson Outperform with a 12 month target price of £7.00.
over the last two months, we believe Sky is priced for perfection. The stock is at
close to a four-year high P/E premium to the sector and market, despite
heading into a trading period where its perceived attributes of defensiveness
and growth appear most at risk. US pay-TV 3Q results have disappointed on
subscriber growth, a key metric for Sky’s valuation. We believe upside from a
favourable FAPL rights renewal is now priced in, with the stock still at a marked
premium to the sector at the end of the next rights round, on our estimates. We
downgrade Sky from Neutral to Sell and add it to the Conviction List.
potential to add future production growth to its impressive financial performance through targeted M&A and JV deals.
several of the places where ExxonMobil would like to grow, such as Brazil and West Africa.
some kind of JV. Quite simply if ExxonMobil acts in 2009 it may be unstoppable versus the other Majors out to 2020.
definitely off the beaten track of exploration, but this company has a track record of thinking hard before it moves, and can stomach high risk misses in the hope of hitting something big.
peer leading Net Income per Barrel and ROACE metrics, helping the company to command a quality price
premium.
We confirm that grants of security over shares (by the creation of a security interest such as a pledge, mortgage or charge) are covered by the disclosure requirement in our Rules and consider that this is consistent with the statements we made in 2005. However, we recognise that we are implementing a European regime and it has become clear that there are differing approaches in some other Member States, based in part on local practices and structures or procedures for granting security over shares, including the circumstances in which legal title to shares transfers. We are therefore seeking to reach a common understanding on the detail of the MAD requirements in this area with the European Commission and our counterparts in the Committee of European Securities Regulators.
We consider that those PDMRs who have granted security over their shares should disclose this to the market as soon as possible and certainly no later than 23 January 2009. However, given the circumstances, we are not intending to take enforcement action in respect of prior failures to notify the market of grants of security.
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Looking ahead, we expect drilling to start on the D9 prospect during the first half of 2009 and for production to start at the Oza field in Nigeria in H109. We believe that Hardy has sufficient cash in hand to see itself through most of 2009. Next result due are the FY08 figures, which we expect in mid-March 2009.
expected sales will be in the range £160-180m, below initial guidance of
£180-200m.
The key issue has been a disappointing sales performance from Tomb
Raider in the US. 1.5m units have been sold in total, which is below the
company’s internal forecasts, and pricing is being dropped to clear
inventory. Sales overall have been slightly weak but are not the key source of
disappointment.
significant pressure. We believe that there is a flowthrough of c50% from
sales to EBITDA, so consensus is likely to fall c£10m.
We retain our Hold/ High Risk rating on the stock. We think the shares will
react badly to this statement but Time Warner is the wild card given their
c20% shareholding. They are free to buy shares.
sterling funds fell on Friday a day after the Bank of England
cut its interest rate to a historic low of 1.5 percent,
according to the latest daily fixing from the British Bankers’
Association.
Dollar and euro interbank rates also declined, with
three-month dollar rates down 9 basis points to 1.26
percent.
The spread of three-month London interbank offered rates
over OIS rates for sterling and dollars fell, while euro rates
inched higher.
The spread expresses the three-month premium paid over
anticipated central bank rates, or Overnight Index Swap rates
and is seen as a gauge of banks’ willingness to lend to each
other — a wider spread is seen as an indication of decreased
inclination to lend.
in 2008. It remains one of our preferred US integrated oils going into 2009 due to
its (1) defensive earnings, (2) very strong balance sheet, (3) consistent and
disciplined approach to capital allocation and (4) and a potential market
environment that could offer XOM the opportunity to plug medium term portfolio
gaps through acquisitions, either at the asset or corporate level.
material XOM news flow. The severity and duration of the market correction
becomes paramount for XOM because (1) its relative performance is more
obvious in a challenged price/margin environments; and (2) increases the
likelihood that a friendly acquisition at a reasonable price can materialize. XOM
has the financial flexibility to step in if opportunities and timing are favorable. The
primary risk to XOM in our view is tied to its size, which makes it challenging to
maintain cost effective reserve replacement and production growth relative to its
peers. Valuation looks solid vis-à-vis earlier down cycles but the premium to peers
may be difficult to sustain in a more favorable macro environment.
Given its size and exposure, XOM is not immune to the drop in prices/margins.
We estimate 4Q08 EPS of $1.47 (down 18% from our prior estimate) and 13%
below consensus at $1.69. In addition to marking to market commodity prices,
E&P earnings will be impacted by higher repair expenses in the GOM
(hurricanes), wider basis differentials, higher opex and, higher overall E&P
effective tax rate, and lower utilizations. R&M is expected to be weaker with GC
margins down significantly and Chemicals likely had its worst quarter since 3Q05.
Based on the falls in UK commercial property values
currently implied by the IPD total return swaps, our
scenario analysis suggests that half of the UK quoted
property majors would need to take action to avoid
breaching debt gearing covenants by Dec. 09/Mar. 10.
obtaining amendments to debt gearing covenants or by
cutting dividends, but we do not think these measures
would be sufficient to address the problem fully.
Could need £1.0 bn of equity or £2.4 bn of sales
dividends cut, our scenario analysis suggests that it
would take about £1.0 billion of new equity or £2.4 billion
of property sales to avoid breaching debt covenants by
Dec. 09/Mar. 10, and a total of about £2.4 billion of new
equity or £4.9 billion of property sales would be required
to give a safety margin for a further 10% fall in values,
roughly equal to the additional fall in values implied by
the total return swaps for 2010.
With extremely low turnover in the direct property market,
we believe that in such a scenario equity issues would
be more feasible than asset sales. We think that
companies looking to rely on equity issues should
consider moving sooner rather than later to avoid the
risk that future share price weakness erodes their
capacity to raise new money.
With very little money available, we expect investors
would have to sell shares in other property companies to
finance their contributions to equity issues. While first
movers would possibly encounter investor resistance, all
else being equal we would expect them to have a
greater chance of successfully raising capital than
latecomers.
