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Markets live transcript 25 Jun 2008

Markets live chat transcript for the chat ending at 12:10 on 25 Jun 2008. Participants in this chat were: Paul Murphy (PM) Neil Hume (NH)

PM:
Welcome to Markets Live, FT Alphaville’s daily markets discussion.
PM:
All go again.
PM:
Neil is here
PM:
We have no option but to go directly to Barclays. How’s the price doing now?
NH:
currently up 18p at 329p
NH:
a rise of almost 6%
PM:
So holding firm?
NH:
yes, analyst meeting sems to be going well
PM:
This is on the back of a “firm placing — and a placing and open offer — to raise 4.5bn
PM:
Done penty on this on AV earlier
NH:
Don’t suppose you are planning any Middle Eastern excusions anytime soon
PM:
???
NH:
Saw the post you did earlier – effectively accusing the prime minister of Qatar being a tax dodger.
PM:
Well, why else would he be using a Tortola-registered vehicle? Cos he wants to support a small Caribbean economy?
PM:
This is His Excellency Sheikh Hamad Bin Jassim Bin Jabr Al-Thani, who is using a BVI vehicle called Challenger Universal.
NH:
This Sheikh – what’s the best way to shorten his name? Al-Thani?
PM:
Oh, youve got to be careful with that.
PM:
I don’t want to encourage racial stereotyping here – but you really wouln’t want to be a reporter in Qatar.
PM:
Scope for cock-up is endless.
NH:
Such as?
PM:
Well, you know His Excellency Sheikh Hamad Bin Jassim Bin Jabr Al-Thani
NH:
Yeees…
PM:
Well, he’s the cousin of the Emir — Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa Al Thani,
PM:
And Sheikh Hamad Bin Jassim Bin Jabr Al-Thani’s father was…
PM:
Khalifa bin Hamad Al Thani,
PM:
The important history here is that Sheikh Hamad Bin Jassim Bin Jabr Al-Thani
helped Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa Al Thani in the coup back in 1995, when they overthrew Khalifa bin Hamad
NH:
Okay I get the picture.
NH:
PM:
Good ref to Cap Chroicle below
PM:
The analysts meeting has just finished over in Canary Wharf
NH:
I reckon what we are seeing is the inevitable relief rally
PM:
Whole bank sector up this morning
NH:
but as the dust settles on this admitedly clever structure
NH:
we get back to the same questions
NH:
like
NH:
have they raised enough money?
NH:
why have CDB and Tamasek not bought more stock and averaged down??
PM:
Just avoided dilution
NH:
and it is worth remembering if they take the same marks as RBS on their treasury assets, they need to raise £8bn not £4bn
PM:
And if there are further write downs to come, why not take them now??
NH:
on top of that, dividend growth looks like it will be pedestrian at best
PM:
And dilution — what does that work out at??
NH:
17% dilution to our 2009 EPS, placing the stock on 4.9x 2009 EPS.
NH:
but PE’s aren’t relevant for banks at the moment
PM:
book value only measure
PM:
alleged book value at that
NH:
tangible book value
NH:
right let’s put up some analys comment
PM:
A spread of views….
NH:
a bull and a bear I think
NH:
this is from Collins Stewart
NH:
Alex Potter
NH:
SELL | Target: Under review | Price: 311p | UK | Banks | 25 June 2008
£4.5bn issue announced. Likely to place a floor under the stock
NH:
Barclays announces £4.5bn discounted share issue
Barclays mgmt has finally grasped the nettle and is issuing new equity. £2.3bn to the Qatari Investment Authority and the Royal family, £500m to Sumitomo-Mitsui, £136m to China Development Bank and £200m to Temasek. A further £1.3bn is being placed with institutional holders and there is an open offer and clawback for existing shareholders (on a 3-for-14 basis). Sumitomo’s stake is via a Firm placing at 296p, the rest is via Open offer at 282p. The average price is therefore 283.6p, a c.9% discount to last night’s close.
NH:
Rebuilds capital base to the new comfort level
RBS raised the bar for core equity Tier 1 ratios towards 6%, HBoS are issuing up to 6.5% and Barclays here state an expectation of 6.3% (trailing) following this raise. This removes one of the main bear points surrounding the stock in recent times, in our view.
NH:
Dilution set to be 20% but dividend being held – and in cash
Our initial estimates indicate that EPS dilution will be c.24% in 2009E. Our new tangible book value per share will be c.278p tangible indicating the stock is trading only just about book value. Importantly, mgmt has committed to holding the 2008 dividend flow at 2007 levels and paying this in cash. This is more positive than the treatment of shareholders at HBoS and RBS.
NH:
Reiteration of previous trading guidance
Mgmt also briefly reiterated its guidance on trading from 16th June – in short, no new profit warning, which is also a (mild) positive.
NH:
Likely to put a floor under the stock
This equity issue removes uncertainty and, as we wrote on 16th June “…confirmation of terms would be an upgrade event”. We feel that the valuation is undemanding, the dividend outlook is good news, as is the lack of any earnings guidance downgrade. Following this, we have a strongly capitalised bank which was the key bear point, we feel, and will be reviewing our recommendation following the analysts meeting at 10:00 London time.
PM:
A bull with a sell!
PM:
Here’s some stuff from Dresdner — pretty bearish
PM:
Barclays has finally announced its capital raising. £4.5bn through an issue of
1,576m new shares. £500m through a placing of 169m shares at 296p to SMBC
and an open offer of 3 shares for every 14 shares to existing shareholders
raising £4bn through 1,407 new shares at 282p.
Future dividends will be in cash but will remain at 2007 levels until cover is 2x (
we forecast 1.87x in 2010). Also the core Tier 1 at the end of 2007 with this extra
capital would have been 6.3% versus the reported 5.1%. We forecast 6.2% at
the end of 2009 with the new capital.
We cut by 3-4% our EPS due to a higher number of shares (we expected a £4bn
increase) but see this as a clear positive for Barclays. However, we keep our
Hold for the time being as we are awaiting clarity on further writedowns (no
mention in release) and on revenues outlook. New SOTP price target 385p.

Our new EPS are 42.8p (08), 59.1p (09) and 64.4p (10). For 2008 we are more than 25% below consensus
(probably due to writedowns), and for 2009 – which is probably a more representative measure of BARC mid-term
earnings capacity – we are around 10% below. The stock is trading at 5.4x 2009 PE, and at 1.2x P/NAV, so a rally
in the short term is a distinct possibility. However, we still remain structurally cautious on investment banks
revenues and hence do not see BARC or other IBs as interesting mid-term investment options.
Three new shareholders have been introduced into the foray; Qatar Investment Authority, Challenger and

PM:
Sumitomo who have agreed to invest; Qatar and Challenger respectively up to £1,764m and £533m as
conditional placees in the placing and open offer.
CBD has agreed to invest up to £136m and Temasek £200m. Additionally a number of leading institutional
shareholders and other investors have also agreed to invest up to £1,336m as conditional placees in the placing
and open offer.
Reasons for the share issue given were:
- enable BARC to strengthen its capital base and operate capital ratios that are ahead of its targets
- provide additional financial resources to allow BARC to capture opportunities for growth
- introduce new investors
- provide opportunity for existing shareholders to participate through the Open Offer.
Barclays believes current market conditions have created unusual opportunities. Half of the capital raised is to be
used for rebuilding capital and the other half will be directed at taking advantage of business opportunities.
Barclays primary objective is to grow organically, but we believe there is a possibility of a small/mid sized
acquisition if something of interest becomes available at the right price.
NH:
and we have some comment from Pesto
NH:
It’s been an open secret for weeks that Barclays was trying to raise more than £4bn through the issue of new shares – although as recently as 24 April, its official spokesman told me that a statement made that day to Barclays annual meeting by its chief executive, John Varley, meant it would not be raising significant amounts of new capital.
PM:
Neil’s got his pasting in a twist
PM:
We will try again
NH:
It’s been an open secret for weeks that Barclays was trying to raise more than £4bn through the issue of new shares – although as recently as 24 April, its official spokesman told me that a statement made that day to Barclays annual meeting by its chief executive, John Varley, meant it would not be raising significant amounts of new capital.
NH:
What perhaps is more troubling is that even today, when making the formal announcement that it is raising £4.5bn through the issue of new shares, the bank is still sending out confusing and apparently contradictory messages.

For example, its statement on current trading and prospects implies that it’s doing well – although a close reading of Barclays’ words makes no commitment about the out-turn for this year.

What Barclays says about its capital ratios, those regulatory measures of its financial strength, also begs questions. As Barclays pointed out on 24 April and repeats again today, one of those ratios was above target and one just a fraction below. And the new £4.5bn will take the ratios well above international minimum standards and Barclays’ own targets (which the bank is not changing).

So if you were an intergalactic investor just landed from Mars, you would be scratching your head and wondering why on earth Barclays wanted £4.5bn from new and current shareholders.

The answer is that banks are insured, regulated institutions and therefore cannot ignore pressure from the Financial Services Authority, the City watchdog.

It wants all our big banks to have a significant cushion of capital, and has made that abundantly clear to all of them.

The tit-for-tat of the Bank of England’s £100bn mortgage collateral swap – which Barclays was influential in negotiating – was that the banks would do their part in shoring up the financial system by raising risk capital.

As I’ve written, it was the FSA which forced Bradford & Bingley to raise emergency funds from Texas Pacific Group, the private-equity giant, when its rights issue was on the brink of collapse.

And now that Bradford & Bingley’s big shareholders have taken my advice and come up with their own competing recapitalisation plan, the FSA will look under the bonnet of the banking takeover vehicle being constructed by the financial entrepreneur, Clive Cowdery.

I also have no doubt that the FSA will ensure that Alliance & Leicester, the medium-sized bank, finds safe harbour from the financial storms.

NH:
But back to Barclays. I’m not saying that the FSA issued it with a formal legally binding instruction to issue new capital. But who do you think is more chipper this morning, Barclays shareholders – who have been asked to dig deep for precious funds – or the regulatory authorities?
PM:
Pesto’s a bit peeved
PM:
Pesto saying the FSA made Barc raise money
NH:
yep, and he is saying Barclays did not want to do it
NH:
well they certainly did not want to do a rights issue
PM:
You can argue that varley kept his options open at the AGM
NH:
so they went down the firm placing route
PM:
Didnt necessarily say no to a share issue
PM:
But look — the structure is smart
PM:
The reaction has been positive
PM:
the stock is now up 6.3%
NH:
it has been, but then again the whole banking sector is up this morning
NH:
Barclays is not outperforming by that much
NH:
check some of the moves
NH:
HBOS up 15.5p at 290.25p
NH:
RBS up 11p to 230.25p
NH:
however, Lloyds TSB lagging behind
NH:
stock down 2.5p at 323.25p
NH:
and that’s because of rumours that it is EUR67 a share bid for Deutsche Post Bank
PM:
What does that equate to ??? Headline number
NH:
around EUR11bn
NH:
which is a bit of a mouthful
PM:
jeepers
NH:
although I am picking up rumours that Lloyds has found an interesting way to finance the deal
NH:
sounds very interesting
NH:
unfortunately it needs more work
NH:
but suffice to say it could surprise a few people
NH:
if it’s true that is
NH:
and on that note
NH:
DPB is saying it has not received any binding offers yet
NH:
this went up on Reuters earlier
NH:
FRANKFURT, June 25 (Reuters) – The sale process for Deutsche Postbank has not yet advanced to the point that binding offers have been received by majority owner Deutsche Post , financial sources said on Wednesday.

The sources said, however, that intensive talks were going on with parties including ING , Banco Santander , Deutsche Bank and Lloyds TSB .

Shares in Postbank leapt earlier on market talk that Lloyds TSB was preparing an 11 billion euro ($17 billion) bid for the bank at 67 euros per share.

By 0917 GMT, the shares were up 6.5 percent to 57.72 euros, leading the gainers in Germany’s blue-chip DAX <.GDAXI>.
(Reporting by Mathias Inverardi)

PM:
interesting
NH:
personally I can’t see Lloyds move into Germany going down that well
PM:
Hmm
PM:
PM:
Quickly to some questions….
PM:
bsb — did see the derivatives exposure post — v interesting – and well worth a read
PM:
Baz — on links — are you asking us to post links here? They should come up as clickable text automatically
PM:
HBOS — well above the rights now
PM:
Currently trading at 290p up 15
PM:
As Neil was saying — rally is across the board in banks — bar Lloyds
NH:
until the next bit of bad news from the mortgage market or monolines. then the whole things turn to mush again
NH:
Justin
NH:
I think CFM might experience a few probs
NH:
big story on the front of the Times this morning about the govt clamping down on companies investing in Zim
NH:
and CFM has been doing exactly that
NH:
ie this deal
NH:
11 April 2008
NH:
CAMEC, the fully integrated exploration, mining and production company,
announces that it has entered into an agreement to acquire an interest in
platinum mining assets in Zimbabwe via the acquisition of 100% of Lefever
Finance Ltd (“Lefever”), a British Virgin Islands company.
NH:
Lefever owns 60% of Todal Mining (Private) Limited (“Todal”), a Zimbabwean
company, which in turn has the rights to certain platinum concessions in
Zimbabwe. The remaining 40% of Todal is held by the Zimbabwe Mineral
Development Corporation (“ZMDC”), the Zimbabwean state-owned mining company.
NH:
The key assets held by Todal are the Bougai and Kironde claims situated in the
southern part of the Zimbabwe great dyke 60 kilometres south west of the city of
Gweru. These claims were previously held by Southridge Limited and Unki Mines
(Private) Limited, both companies of the Anglo Platinum Group (“Anglo Platinum”)
before being ceded to ZMDC and subsequently granted to Todal by ZMDC. The
cession agreement between Anglo Platinum and the ZMDC states that “Using the
SAMREC Code for the recognition of mineral reserves and resources, the estimated
Platinum ounces and 4E ounces resource …equates to 7,486,750 Platinum ounces
and 15,683,323 4E ounces” for the area held by Todal. A competent person from
Behre Dolbear International Limited has visited the site, reviewed the data and
confirms that these estimates are realistic.
NH:
The purchase consideration is a cash payment of US$5 million (financed from the
Company’s existing cash balances) and the issue of 215,000,000 new CAMEC
ordinary shares. Furthermore, CAMEC has agreed to advance to Lefever an amount
of US$100 million by way of loan to enable Lefever to comply with its
contractual obligations to the Government of the Republic of Zimbabwe. Repayment
to Lefever is to be made from the ZMDC’s share of dividends from Todal

Meryweather Investments Limited, the seller of the shares in Lefever, will on
completion of the transaction hold a 13.07% interest in the enlarged share
capital of CAMEC. All of the shares issued to Meryweather will be subject to a
lock in for six months and 50% of those shares will be subject to a lock in for
12 months.

NH:
and of course there have been other stories allegding that loan money has been used to buy arms from the Chinese
PM:
Although the company has denied that outright
NH:
here’s today’s story from the Times if you are interested
NH:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/africa/article4207971.ece?&EMC-Bltn=PPT969
PM:
Re-links — i will raise the issue with Assanka
Cracking little software shop who built FT Alphaville
PM:
PM:
Neil wants to cut to NEXT
NH:
got £3bn??
PM:
Eh? What for?
NH:
well if you have £3bn you can buy Next
NH:
all of it
PM:
Is that what it’s come down to?
NH:
yep
NH:
Next’s P/E is now 6.3x with a 14%
free cash and 5.7% dividend yield (2.8x EPS cover), that’s according to Dresdner
NH:
which has a note out this morning
NH:
raising the old prospect of a PE bid
NH:
and the share have responded
NH:
up 41.5p to £10.01
NH:
but then again
NH:
the whole retail sector is up
PM:
(AM — there are no rights, so no nil paids)
NH:
Marks and Spencer up 11p to 343.75p
Kingfisher (KGF:LSE): Last: 117.40, up 5 (+4.45%), High: 117.40, Low: 113.10, Volume: 7.26m
DSG International (DSGI:LSE): Last: 44.00, up 2 (+4.76%), High: 44.75, Low: 40.25, Volume: 9.66m
NH:
hang on, let me paste a little bit of the note
NH:
Next
Lend me £3bn and I’ll BUY Next (all of it)
NH:
We are sympathetic to many of the reasons why investors do not want to hold
(any) equity in UK Non-Food Retail. However, Next’s P/E is now 6.3x with a 14%
free cash and 5.7% dividend yield (2.8x EPS cover). Stress testing our estimates,
which already assume Retail LFL sales -6.5%, and recognising how defensively
management have positioned the business, Next looks materially undervalued.
NH:
We have revisited our estimates in light of recent sector trading news: But we see little
reason for material change. At its Q1 update on 8 May, Next guided for Retail LFL sales in the
range of down 4-7% and Directory sales up 0-2%, and we believe the group is still on track to
be within this range for H1. Gross margin and cost growth should also be to plan
NH:
Q1 sales looked horrible (LFL -8.9%): However, Q1 last year was decent (-1.3%) and Q2
will have benefitted from more normal weather (ONS suggests May clothing sales +7%) and
a comp that is >5% softer than Q1. We look for H1 Retail LFL sales -7% and Directory +1%.
Ventura EBIT estimates are cut £6m reflecting its finance / telco customer base.
► Management have positioned Next very defensively: Intake gross margin was guided
up 50-100bp for H1 and markdown should be materially lower given a starting target of
putting £50m less stock into the end of season sale and subsequently in line sales. We
continue to see significant improvement in Next’s product, stores and brand perception.
NH:
Next’s EV is now just £2.6bn (o/w 75% is equity) or 4.3x EV/EBITDA: To lift the 6.3x P/E to
the 9x sector P/E would require a miss in Retail of 6% on LFL (ie -12.5%) and 200bp on gross
margin. Funding is secure and gearing low (2.6x EBITDAR vs sector 3.8x) with a 5.7% yield, in
line with Next’s post tax debt cost. An LBO model (remember those?) at a 20% takeout
premium and on the current capital structure (fixed charge cover >2.5x, 5x EBITDA exit) yields a
15% IRR. We are revising our TP from 1450p to 1400p (40% upside) based on 9x P/E.
NH:
We are not suggesting that a Retail LBO is possible in the current environment; but we
are suggesting that Next remains one of the most do-able take private stories in the
sector and if the absolute multiple persists as and when credit markets re-open, a deal
cannot be ruled out. Hence our (only slightly) flippant note title of ‘Lend me £3bn and I’ll
BUY Next (all of it)’ – our general point is that Next looks undervalued on all metrics.
NH:
Next’s funding is secure with £1bn of debt facilities (vs January 2008 debt of £740m), of
which £850m does not expire until at least 2013. The refinancing until 2013 of £300m of
bank debt due in 2009 has been achieved with no significant additional cost and no
change in covenants. This looks right given the strength of its credit ratios (debt 1x
EBITDA, net debt/EBITDAR 2.8x) and £438m of relatively liquid, quick turning, trade
debtors in Directory, but is nonetheless a relief given some horrible refinancing terms.
NH:
NH:
Right just picking up some very RAW info on Mecom
NH:
it needs checking but has flattened the price
NH:
down 2.25p to 21.75p
NH:
a drop of nearly 10%
PM:
This is David Montgomery’s german/euro newspaper vehicle
NH:
which I think has a lot of debt
PM:
Plan has always been to slash cost at german newspapers — easier said than done
PM:
RAW market suggestion that there is a problem with that debt….
NH:
totally unconfirmed and this price and wing around
PM:
This has been a very difficult stock
PM:
Price has come all the way down from circa 95p
PM:
NH:
PM:
Just on Barc — might be helpful if i put up the timetable
NH:
yeah, a lot people seem to think that there are rights trading, or that shareholders need to decide tomorrow whether to take up their entitlement
PM:
Ordinary Share Record Date for entitlement under the Open Offer
close of business on 24 June 2008
Publication of Prospectus and Application Form
on 25 June 2008
Ex-entitlement date for the Open Offer
8.00 a.m. on 26 June 2008
Open Offer Entitlements credited to stock account of Qualifying CREST Shareholders in CREST
by 30 June 2008
PM:
Latest time and date for receipt of completed Application Forms and payment in full under the Open Offer and settlement of relevant CREST instruction (as appropriate)
11.00 a.m. on 17 July 2008
Admission and commencement of dealings in Open Offer Shares
8.00 a.m. on 22 July 2008
Open Offer Shares in uncertificated form expected to be credited to accounts in CREST
8.00 a.m. on 22 July 2008
Despatch of definitive share certificates for the New Ordinary Shares in certificated form
by 25 July 2008
PM:
Prospectus due to be published later today
NH:
what I would like to know and if anyone out there has any thoughts
NH:
will US investors be allowed to take up their entitlement
NH:
I think in the rights issue there has been some problem with ADRS
NH:
obviously this is different
PM:
There is an ADR timetable
PM:
ADS Record Date for entitlement under the Open Offer
close of business, New York City time, on 2 July 2008
Application period for Open Offer for ADSs commences
9.00 a.m., New York City time, on 3 July 2008
Latest time and date for receipt of completed ADS subscription form and payment in full under the Open Offer for ADS
11.00 a.m., New York City time, on 14 July 2008
PM:
PM:
cmsd2 — Morgan Stanley’s asset allocation committee did a v interesting note on investing in a stagflation world recently
PM:
Drop me a line — paul.murphy@ft.com and i will forward
PM:
It’s to beig and detailed to past here
PM:
OJ — not in Sterling or US dollar terms tho. You have to wear Zim dollars
PM:
NH:
Right, time to have a look at the wider market
NH:
FTSE 100 currently 22.9 points higher at 5,657.6
NH:
banks and retailers leading the way
NH:
but the index also being helped by a powerful performance from BP
NH:
shares up 12.5p to 583.75p
NH:
which is a big move for a company the size of BP
PM:
What’s moving it?
NH:
upgrade from Morgan Stanley
NH:
they aren’t bothered by the TNK stuff
PM:
No it’s their preferred supermajor in Europe!
NH:
which they have upgraded to “overweight”
NH:
Tipping Point
NH:
BP is now our preferred supermajor in Europe. BP
is at a turning point. The rebuild of US R&M, strong
upstream growth from high margin barrels and upside
from Henry Hub implies BP’s net income could grow by
22% in 2009, on our estimates.

NH:
There seems to be a sense of urgency from the CEO to tackle the problems
that have beset BP in recent years. It is not often that a
supermajor offers the possibility of such a substantial
step-up in performance, a change in culture and the
opportunity for investor sentiment to shift. BP offers this
possibility over the next 12 months.
NH:
Operational turnaround well set. In E&P, seven new
and material projects have recently started up. The
commissioning of Thunder Horse in June is significant,
and this asset alone can generate almost 10% of BP’s
earnings in 2009. In R&M, we think negative revisions
now leave earnings expectations at a level that can be
met and even beaten.
NH:
Gas pricing at oil price parity implies a US$2-3 billon
uplift from Henry Hub. BP’s exposure to US gas is
underappreciated. We think this position could provide
a material earnings differential relative to its peers as the
dislocation between oil and gas prices close. We should
start to see this impact with the Q2 results next month.
Concerns on TNK-BP reflected in the share price
NH:
The 5% underperformance since March suggests that
the market is already discounting a bear case scenario,
in our view. TNK-BP remains a valuable option for BP
but, we would argue, not the critical part of the investment case.
PM:
(Special welcome to our African readers today )
PM:
Thanks for that Neil
PM:
NH:
can we go back to Mecom quickly
NH:
Bryce elder has dug some interesting stuff up on the company’s debt position
NH:
from a morgan stanley note published last month
NH:
The surge in the Euro has inflated the level of Mecom’s net
debt from £524m at the year end to around £600m now.
EBITDA in 2008 is now forecast by us at £200m in 2008,
implying net debt / EBITDA of 3x versus the covenant
levels of 3.5x. This implies Mecom has ‘spare’ EBITDA
of £27m or 14%. We made a downgrade of this scale
alongside the trading statement in mid-January. Mecom
is helped on the P&L by the strength of the Euro and
potentially the availability of cost cutting (EBITA margins
are forecast at just 9.4% in 2008) but further
downgrades on tougher revenue conditions could cause
market fears of Mecom’s high leverage to dictate the
share price movement.
PM:
thanks for that
NH:
of course the wider point here is that the market is penalising companies with a large debt positions
NH:
in fact investors are just avoiding them as if they carry some sort of deadly disease
NH:
like the ebola virus
NH:
witness Yell, Debenhams, Punch and now Mecom
PM:
certainly the case
PM:
NH:
just heading back to Zim for a minute
NH:
Anglo American have responded to the story in the Times
NH:
and here is what they have to say about investing in that wicked regime
NH:
The following statement is in response to media reports relating to Anglo
American’s business activity in Zimbabwe.
NH:
Anglo American has been an investor in Zimbabwe for 60 years. The Unki platinum
project in Zimbabwe, which has been in development since 2003, is a long-term
investment for a mine which is yet to start production and will not generate
revenues for some years. Anglo American is deeply concerned about the current
political situation in Zimbabwe and condemns the violence and human rights
abuses that are taking place. Anglo American is monitoring the situation in
Zimbabwe very closely and is reviewing all options surrounding the development
of the project. It has been made clear to Anglo American that if it ceases to
develop this project, the Government of Zimbabwe will assume control.
NH:
Anglo American has a clear responsibility to protect the wellbeing of its more
than 650 employees and contractors, as well as their families and all those who
depend indirectly on the activity around the project, all of whose livelihoods
would be jeopardised should the company withdraw from Zimbabwe. The responsible
development of the Unki mine will create a long-term viable business which will
be important to the economic future of Zimbabwe for years to come. Anglo
American continues to support the communities around the project with a number
of important social development activities, including the provision of basic
food and supplies, the building of a dam to help support agriculture through the
reliable supply of water and the provision of financial and other assistance to
the primary and secondary schools and community health facilities.
NH:

Anglo American is in full compliance with all relevant national and
international laws relating to its activities in Zimbabwe.
NH:
(no Taxloss you can’t have it. Calling me a Klingon. I have yet to recover).
PM:
I’ve got a copy taxloss ! And found the pics v v funny
PM:
V grown up statement from Anglo American
PM:
Of course it is not as tho they lack experience in dealing with unstable political situations
PM:
PM:
Okay TB!
PM:
Drinks next Tuesday — not a full party
PM:
Let’s say 5pm onwards at No 1 Lombard St
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We will have a proper formal party for Alphavile to launch our new extension in September
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But if you are free next Tuesday and in London, come along to NO1 Lombard at Bank, next to Mansion house
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and dress smartly. it is not some backstreet boozer
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take note Nelson M
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Helen, Sam etc will be coming along
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Next week is Helen’s last — but think she will be spending most of the time on Lax
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Now
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We must pay an immedate visit to the drinks sector
NH:
A bit early isn’t it
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For a drink, only just and so
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want to look at Punch Taverns
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stock got beaten up yesterday
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down 17% at one point
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on the back of another note
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which looked at the structures of its securitization pools
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Redburn note — house coming out with some pretty aggressive stuff recently
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that’s right
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stock rallied – ended the day down around 5%
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and then after the market closed the company rushed out/brought forward a trading statement
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that basically said everything is fine
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Punch expects to meet forecasts and its balance sheet is strong
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in fact the statement came ahead of a get together with analysts and investors at the Anchor
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not that dreadful tourist pub round the back of our building
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yep
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That’s an appalling place
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it is
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but a flagship Punch outlet
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not sure if the CEO Giles Thorley was down there
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Could have moored his yacht outside
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but fund managers assure me these get togethers tend to go on a bit
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so there will be a few sore heads this morning
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I would imagine so
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and it might explain why nobody seems at all interested in the statement
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this stock has tanked this year
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and there was all sorts of talk before the opening that the stock would rally 10% or even 20% on relief
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and…
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er
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up just 9p at 327p
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whoa!
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pathetic
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So what’s going on here?
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we have Debenhams and now Punch rushing out trading statements to try and calm the market and it has no effect
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yep
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and as we said earlier
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no one wants to touch companies with the sort of debt Punch has
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and Punch has a lot of debt
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net debt of £4.9bn against shareholder equity of £1.7bn
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and on top of that the debt is tied up in securitsation structures
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and what doubly counts against Punch is that this company is anyone creation of the Frankstein corporate finance lab
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Yep
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Tiny number of direct employees etc
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from the same lab as Premier Foods??
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another debt laden creation
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Looked great as an equation — before the great Credt Crunch of course
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indeed
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and that’s the point
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the market is not interested in these Frankstein vehicles at the moment
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because if the UK does head into recession
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there seems little doubt that Punch will breach some of the covenants on its bonds
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but I thought they said in this morning’s statement that they saw no need for a refinancing until 2010 at the earliest
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With almost 200 freehold and long leasehold pubs with an asset value of ££90m held outside of the securitisation vehicles, ££50m of corporate loan facility, existing cash resources and projected cash flows from the securitisation vehicles for FY08, the Group has more than sufficient funds to meet its current corporate needs and does not anticipate any refinancing needs before December 2010 at the earliest.
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yep
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but I guess that is based on Punch’s forecasts on where the UK economy is heading
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and why should anyone take that a face value
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seems to me no one has a clue how sharp the slowdown will be in the UK
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and if it slows sharply the a company with £4.9bn of debt is going to struggle
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of course we have been here with the banking sector
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they said everything was fine for months
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and then what happened???
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and they all decided to raise billions in fresh capital
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anyway, the numbers in last night’s statement are nothing to get excited about
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trading is no worse than expected, but it is still weak
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and furthermore a recovery in Q4 trading will be needed for the company to meet most analysts’ forecasts
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here’s some quick analyst comment
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from Cazenove
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Punch Taverns – [PUB.L, PUB LN, 316p] OUTPERFORM, Sector Neutral
Punch has brought forward its Interim Management Statement scheduled for 7th July. Presumably this reflects the share price weakness over the last few days. Highlights are as follows, with our comments also reflecting conversations with management at an analysts’ event last night:
Leased/tenanted contribution -3.4% for 44 weeks compared to -2% decline in H1 (28 weeks).

Managed pubs lfl sales have declined at -3.6% over the 44 weeks. This compares to -2.8% for the first 28 weeks, implying a run rate of -5% in March-June quarter. The interim statement implied a -4.3% decline in January & February.

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There has been an improvement in trading over the last two weeks “as we trade into the weaker weather comparatives”

Punch indicates that it is “confident of meeting the market’s FY profit expectations”. We understand this is for adjusted PBT of £258-275m (Cazenove £269m).
On balance sheet issues “the group has sufficient funds to meet its current financing needs”.

NH:
Comments on trading
Overall, the trading in Spirit is in line with our FY assumption of a -3.6% decline in lfls. The fall in the leased estate of -3.4% implies a fall of -5.9% in the most recent 16 weeks. This compares to -5.7% in weeks 21-28, as we show below.
The statement does imply that trading has stabilised in Q3, although a small recovery in the leased estate EBITDA run rate will be needed to meet our current forecasts. We therefore see potential for a small (2%) downgrade to 2008E EPS, assuming a -3% decline in lfl EBITDA in the leased business (-£7m impact on PBT).
NH:
Management indicated that trends in March were similar to January and February, April saw ‘high single digit’ declines and May has improved. Furthermore we understand trading is broadly flat in June, against trading impacted by poor weather in the prior year. It would clearly be unwise to extrapolate from two weeks’ trading in June. Nonetheless we would view April’s trading as unrepresentative, combining the smoking ban, poor weather and the presence of the Easter bank holidays in the prior year.

Implications, valuation and conclusion
In the short term this statement is likely to provide reassurance that trading in Q3 has been no worse than expected, notwithstanding the weakening consumer environment and the poor weather in April. It also provides short term comfort that there has been no deterioration in the headroom against covenants. Clearly, this does not change the fact that trading is still weak and a small recovery will be needed in Q4 trading to meet our forecasts.

NH:
In the case of other stocks which have reassured the market in the face of intense speculation (e.g. Debenhams +6% yesterday) there is a potential for short closing and we would expect a positive reaction. Subsequently we would expect Punch’s share price to remain volatile given its high gearing and ahead of updates from the peer group [JDW 16th July, MAB 25th July]

Punch now trades on a 2008E PER of 4.0x and EV/EBITDA of 8.9x compared to ETI on 11.0x and 9.5x respectively. We would expect this rating gap to close and retain an Outperform recommendation.

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and this is from Panmure Gordon
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Panmure

Management is confident that 2008E PBT will be in line with expectations,
which ranges between £258m and £283m. With leased pub LFL profits down
3.4% after 44 weeks, we are downgrading our 2008E forecast by 3%, a
scenario that requires flat trading in Q4E against weak comparatives. The
shares are cheap, but there is no growth or short-term catalysts.
After 44 weeks, leased pub LFL contribution is down 3.4%, implying a 4.5% reduction during the last 16 weeks. We estimate that the disposal of 869 pubs in April 2007 boosted average contribution per pub by 9% (to 7%) in H1 and by 6% in Q3.

NH:
With LFL and average contribution/pub now converging, the company needs at least a flat performance in Q4 to achieve our forecast.

After 44 weeks, managed pubs LFL sales are down 3.6%, implying a 6.5% reduction during the last 16 weeks. Due to higher operational gearing, LFL profits are likely to be down over 10%.

Fortunately, managed pubs account for just 19% of group profits. Again, our forecasts
anticipate an improvement in Q4E due to the weak weather-related LFL comparatives.

NH:
In addition to reducing our 2008E forecast to reflect a weak Q3, we have reduced future years to reflect a slowdown in expansion. In the last 16 weeks, only one pub has been acquired and 19 have been sold. However, this is good for cash flow and reducing debt, of which £67m has been repaid this year; we estimate that over £100m will be repaid by year-end.

All £4.8bn of net debt is fixed at a rate 6.6% and for an average of 19 years.
Having passed through the toughest trading period in living memory, Punch.s cash
interest cover remains above 2.0x. We believe EBITDA would have to fall by c20% to endanger the covenants, which is unlikely. Trading over the summer should be flattered by weak weather-related comparatives; the next major challenge could emerge in the Winter, if heating costs remain high and employment falls.

NH:
Punchs shares (on a PE of 4.2x) are materially undervalued, possibly discounting a rights issue. We doubt a rights issue is needed, but with the company becoming a net seller of pubs and the 2009E outlook becoming tougher, there could be further downgrades, but not of the multitude the share price suggests.

Management believes that a REIT could be undertaken without demerging Spirit. It also believes that it may be possible to demerge Spirit without out breaking its securitised bond. There are still potential catalysts for the shares, but we doubt any of them are likely to be executed in the short-term. We are not forecasting any growth, but expect cash flow to remain strong, financing a 4.4x covered dividend yielding 5.5%.

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and sticking with the pub sector
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no one may give a hoot about Punch
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but Goldman has found a buyers for Mitchells & Butlers
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upgraded this morning, primarily citing valuation
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and the stock has responded with a gain 12p to 216p
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Analyst Oliver Neal reckons a lot of bad news is already in the price
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here’s the note
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What happened

We cut our 2009 and 2010 earnings estimates, primarily to reflect cost pressures. However, Mitchells & Butlers now trades in line with the sector on a P/E basis on our downgraded earnings forecasts, following its recent share price decline.

We thus upgrade Mitchells & Butlers from Sell to Neutral. We reduce our 6-month
price target to 220p from 290p, reflecting lower earnings estimates and a lower estimated freehold value.

NH:
Since adding Mitchells & Butlers to the Sell List on May 30, 2008, the stock has fallen 35.4% vs. the FTSE
World Europe’s 8.1% decline (-75.8% over the last 12 months vs. -11.1% for the FTSE World Europe).

NH:
Current view
In our view, Mitchells & Butlers’ current valuation more accurately reflects a combination of a weak UK consumer outlook, cost pressures (utility and food) and high leverage (particularly when the likely revisions to the pension deficit are taken into account).

We downgrade our 2009 and 2010 earnings estimates to reflect
higher energy and food costs and continued weakness in consumer demand. Our 2009E EPS falls to 26.55p from 29.51p and our 2010E EPS falls from 31.52p to 28.66p.

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We also lower our estimate of MAB’s asset
value, a function of lower assumed profitability of the underlying pubs, an increasingly negative profit outlook for 2009 (food price inflation, higher utility costs and an ever weakening UK consumer) and much tougher
financing conditions.

Our 6-month price target (based on long-term average P/E and adjusted P/B ratios) falls to 220p from 290p, driven by a 15% cut in our assumed freehold value of the estate and lower earnings estimates. Mitchells & Butlers trades on a calendar 2009E P/E of 7.8x versus the sub sector on 8.1x. The key negative risk to our
estimates and price target is a failure to pass on any of the higher input costs to consumers.

PM:
Phew — thanks for all that!
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This has just been highlighted by a shrewdie…
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From propertyweek
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Industrial land values have dropped by 25% in London and the South East and are likely to fall further, according to research from Colliers CRE.

Values in the Midlands and the North have fallen between 10-20%, but the ripple effects from London and the south east will affect these values as well.

The research found that vendors expectations of land values are taking time to readjust to new market levels. Supply is also outstripping occupier demand, due to a strong recent development pipeline. The research said that this is causing short term developer traders to pull out of the market.

Len Rosso, head of logistics and industrial at Colliers CRE, said: ‘The good news is that rents in the logistics and industrial sector remain stable at the moment. However the early casualties of the current climate are third party logistics companies, particularly smaller firms, who are feeling the pressure of rising costs.’

NH:
oh dear. that’s bearish
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here’s a poisoned chalice if ever I saw one
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Maitland wins Barratt’s financial brief
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fancy taking on that account
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BDEV actually up today – 0.5p higher at 75.25p
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Ok — we are done
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Laughed a lot this morning
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a big thank you to our African readers
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This is such a mad thing to do for a living
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obviously no one was in the mood for financial chit chat this morning
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and a hello Pesto
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and goodbye
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I am off to to lunch
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and no, I am not headed to the Anchor
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Canteen for me
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Not
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Right — we wil lbe back tomorrow at 11am
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Do tune in
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Otherwise — informal drinks at No1 Lombard next Tuesday from 5pm. All welcome. Drinks on Helen
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